2011-12 NFL Playoffs

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I don't think I understand the rules on this one either. So as soon as you get pushed backward a little there can no longer be a fumble? That doesn't sound right. If a player gets pushed back and not tackled and breaks free, he can still score a touchdown if he's able.

That seemed like an extremely quick whistle.


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Actually, it happens all the time. Once the whistle blows a play dead for forward motion, the runner CAN'T extend the play (by bouncing backwards and running a hook). The same happens when a player is knocked out of bounds backwards on an angle... The clock keeps running due to forward motion being stopped. This stops exactly what happened, four defenders lifting up a runner off the ground and driving a guy backwards, mugging a guy to release the ball. Meanwhile, the zebras negated another fumble this week by our opponents early in the game.... I'm not sure how he was down either on that play. Believe me, the Giants have lost many more iffy calls than they have won over the last month...
 
From ESPN Stats & Information:

Patriots are the 4th team to win two playoff games in a single season with a negative turnover differential. The others to do it were all Steelers teams, in 1975, 1979, 2005.
 
SPOOKY 2007 parallels continue..... Back then Brady had the boot, now it is Gronk..... Last week, Nicks catches the hail mary on his helmet like Tyree. This is REALLY weird. This year, Pack is undefeated when the Giants face them in the regular season and they lose a hard fought game 38-35. In 2007, the Giants played the Pats, an undefeated team, whom they play a hard fought game and lose 38-35, but beat them in the postseason. In 2007, the Giants are expected to lose as they go on the road to play in adverse weather conditions (extreme cold) at Lambeau. This year, they go on the road to San Fran to play in adverse weather conditions (heavy rain). In both games, they go to OT, with the Giants capitalizing on miscues by the offense (2007: Favre interception, 2011: a punt return fumble) to set up a game winning FG by a Scottish field goal kicker named Tynes.

Anxious to see if Giants can keep this going in two weeks.....
More parallels from Peter King of si.com:

How about this incredible Xerox of fate for the Giants.

In 2007, the Giants started the playoffs by beating an NFC South team. Then they beat the No. 1 seed on the road. Then they beat the No. 2 seed in the conference title game when the foe turned it over in overtime and gave the Giants a short field and the Giants won on a Lawrence Tynes overtime field goal. Then they moved on to face the Patriots in the Super Bowl.
In 2011, let's see ... NFC South team, No. 1 seed, No. 2 seed, overtime, turnover, Tynes, Patriots. Check.
One more thing:
2007: Giants lose to Washington 22-10 in Week 15.
2011: Giants lose to Washington 23-10 in Week 15.
 
BobMurdoch made a case for me to cheer for the Giants in SB XLVI.

Bill, Hart5150- I'd like to see you state a case for me to cheer for the Pats.
 
Either the Pats or Giants will win their fourth Super Bowl, and that team will join the Steelers (6), 49ers (5), Cowboys (5) and Packers (4) for teams that have won at least four Super Bowls.
 
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Things I'd like to see before Super Bowl 46:


1. The Giants sign WR Ricky Proehl. He then scores a TD for the Giants to tie the game with a little over a minute left (Just like he did for the Rams and Panthers in SB 36 and 38)

2. The Pats sign PK Adam Vinatieri. He then kicks the winning FG to win the Super Bowl (just like HE did for the Pats in SB 36 and 38)

And then there's my nightmares:

1. The Giants sign WR's David Tyree and Plaxico Burress. (no explanation needed)

2. The Giants sign Bernard Pollard so he can complete the job, and take out the rest of the Patriots team!
 
One question that I haven't seen brought up anywhere: Why wasn't the Lee Evans catch reviewed? It looks like he got two feet down in the end zone, then the ball was slapped away. It was close, and should've been reviewed.

It wasn't reviewed because it wasn't a Scoring Play.
Had it been called a TD they could have reviewed it.
The Lions lost a TD the same way in the playoffs.

They need to change the Review to any plays in the endzone, not Scoring Plays.
 
The Pats cheerleaders are hotter! :luvlove:


Good enough for me.

Patriots it is!

(I know we're division rivals, and Buffalo has won only twice against them in the entire Brady era- but I have a lot of respect for New England and what they've done. I was not bitter over 56-10 (when one side knows what to do and the other doesn't, you can name the score as far as I'm concerned))
 
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It was pretty close and that's why there's doubt, but he was pulled backwards a full yard+ before the ball was tore loose, that's why they gave him forward progress. Good call.

My biggest issue with the forward progress ruling is that the official who made it was so unsure of it that he also threw down the blue fumble spot indicator. If you're sure of the call, fine. If you're that uncertain, then you shouldn't make the non-reviewable call.

In the end, the runner was in fact going backwards. However, it was still a very quick whistle. Watch the play in real time and tell me that it couldn't just as easily been ruled a fumble. There are plenty of similar plays throughout the season where that whistle isn't blown that quickly.

All that said, 1-13 on third down doesn't cut it. The 49ers had every chance to win and couldn't put it away. It's a shame the backup kick returner gave away 10 points, but the offense didn't do enough either. Where were the WRs throughout the game?

Losing one game away from the Super Bowl hurts, but I'm proud of what they accomplished when everyone expected this to be a lost season. A couple of different bounces and they're playing in Indy in two weeks.

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My biggest issue with the forward progress ruling is that the official who made it was so unsure of it that he also threw down the blue fumble spot indicator. If you're sure of the call, fine. If you're that uncertain, then you shouldn't make the non-reviewable call.
The "blue fumble spot indicator" is a bean bag that the official used to mark the spot of the forward progress. He dropped it there because he left the spot to go tell the referee what he had. He should not have left the spot, he should have held his spot which if he had done so would have helped "sell the call"....
 
My biggest issue with the forward progress ruling is that the official who made it was so unsure of it that he also threw down the blue fumble spot indicator. If you're sure of the call, fine. If you're that uncertain, then you shouldn't make the non-reviewable call.

In the end, the runner was in fact going backwards. However, it was still a very quick whistle. Watch the play in real time and tell me that it couldn't just as easily been ruled a fumble. There are plenty of similar plays throughout the season where that whistle isn't blown that quickly.

All that said, 1-13 on third down doesn't cut it. The 49ers had every chance to win and couldn't put it away. It's a shame the backup kick returner gave away 10 points, but the offense didn't do enough either. Where were the WRs throughout the game?

Losing one game away from the Super Bowl hurts, but I'm proud of what they accomplished when everyone expected this to be a lost season. A couple of different bounces and they're playing in Indy in two weeks.

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If anyone has seen Michael Crabtree, please inform authorities. He was a complete no show. And to think, he was SUCH a hot commodity coming out of college.
 
If anyone has seen Michael Crabtree, please inform authorities. He was a complete no show. And to think, he was SUCH a hot commodity coming out of college.

If we saw Crabtree returning punts instead of Kyle Williams, the Ninners would probably be in the Super Bowl.


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Finally, the fight I WANTED: Cotto vs. Mayweather!

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