2010-2011 College Bowl Season

Beamer is now 1-19 against top 5 teams. No way to spin that one. :D


So what we saw was typical Beamer and Hokie choking against a quality (?) opponent.
And according to what I saw, the Hokies are 1-26 all time against top 5 teams.
You know, getting to the game is one thing, id actually want to win a few here or there though.
 
I feel you should be OVER .500 to go to a Bowl game, preferably 2 games over .500 at least.

The current bar of winning at least 6 games (allowing up to 6 losses) has discounted any credibility of only good teams playing in "bowl games." If the bar was just a bit higher, at 7 wins, there would not be enough teams to fill all these "bowl games" that Disney has worked so hard to get on ESPN.
 
Good game Stanford... pretty sad to be a Hokie fan right now. Need to get rid of that damn Off Cord we have...just sorry play calling.

Always next year I guess.

It was a close 1st half, but then Stanford made adjustments and it looked like VT decided to hold the course, no matter what. Having talent on the team is one thing, having coaches that know what to do with them is another. Its not just the OC, the defense was so predicable that Stanford was easy to read and shred.

Unlike the BSu and JM losses, excuses for this loss are going to be hard to come by.
 
The Insider said:
It was a good first half.. Then Stanford just showed why the ACC is not one of the elites. The second best in the pac10 beat the best of the ACC. The ACC did good in the bowls against the bottom of the other conferences ill give them that but when it came to the big ones they failed.

This had nothing with ACC/PAC-10 thing. The Hoagies(;-)) played the 3rd best team in the country...there is a reason why their only loss was Oregon.
 
This had nothing with ACC/PAC-10 thing. The Hoagies(;-)) played the 3rd best team in the country...there is a reason why their only loss was Oregon.

It's still very much an ACC/Pac-10 thing though. As The Insider said, the second best team in the Pac 10 blew out the champion of the ACC. As he also said, the Pac 10 is an elite conference, right up there with the SEC...and the ACC is not.


Sandra
 
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I feel you should be OVER .500 to go to a Bowl game, preferably 2 games over .500 at least.

I agree but wont happen

ESPN has turned the bowl season into what kiddie sports have been for a few years now.
kiddie sports....Lets not keep score and everyone is a winner (even though the kids keep track of score in their head)
bowl season.....yeah you finished 6-6 but you had a couple tough games and got beat down pretty hard but thats OK you get to go to a bowl game so your feelings arent hurt
 
It was a good first half.. Then Stanford just showed why the ACC is not one of the elites. The second best in the pac10 beat the best of the ACC. The ACC did good in the bowls against the bottom of the other conferences ill give them that but when it came to the big ones they failed.
Which helps show just how bad the ACC as a whole has been this year. We have reaked...

Sure VT looked good against other ACC teams, but that means nothing. Hell, even Kentucky looks great when playing Vanderbilt.
But when it came time to play against other Conferences (and other divisions in VT's case), we have sucked. End of story.

The comment made by Ohio St. about Boise St. & TCU playing Little Sisters of the Poor was misdirected. It should have been against the ACC.
 
Saw this in the Sunday paper. I agree with this article and thought I'd share....



COLLEGE FOOTBALL
BCS has ruined bowl-game tradition
By John Henderson
The Denver Post
The Denver Post
Posted:01/02/2011 01:00:00 AM MST

I'm sitting here on my couch watching the Big Ten look like the Denver Prep League and wondering whatever happened to tradition. No, not Big Ten tradition. I grew up watching Big Ten teams come out from the cold and melt in too many Rose Bowls.

I'm talking about the tradition of New Year's Day, once the greatest holiday of any college football fan, the Christmas of the alumnus.

For most of the 20th century and the vast majority of my life, New Year's Day meant a parade of bowl games. They came like beautiful bowl floats: the Cotton, the Sugar, the Rose, the Fiesta and finally the Orange, overlapping only slightly for 14 hours of football that marked the end of the season by determining the national champion.

Knock the archaic system but don't knock the drama.

Saturday morning, I opened my TV schedule and saw six games. One was named for a Texas ticket broker, another for a bank and one more for a suburban restaurant chain with schlocky commercials.

The Rose Bowl is the lone traditional bowl left on the menu, although I'll give the Fiesta a reluctant nod for its rise to BCS royalty.

Worse, four games are on at the same time. To avoid missing anything, I'd need more TVs than ESPNZone. This is one reason I'm sitting on this couch alone — although the other reasons are between me and my therapist.

For many years, before 1998 when the BCS strung out bowls like kitty litter leaking out of a bag, I had raucous New Year's Day bowl parties. I'd invite all my single male and female friends, load the table with food, the fridge with beer and let the games begin.

In more ways than one.

In 1996, when my Oregon Ducks played Colorado in the Cotton Bowl, I grilled buffalo burgers and had a stuffed buffalo hanging by its neck over the TV. The humiliation of Oregon's 38-6 loss was not aided by watching Nebraska cream Florida 62-24 to win the national title.

But by the time everyone left my party, we all knew the national champion. Jan. 1 had a finality to it, a coronation to start the year. OK, the top two teams rarely met in the same bowl, but sometimes you get a perfect storm.

Take New Year's Day 1984. The top five that day were No. 1 Nebraska, No. 2 Texas, No. 3 Auburn, No. 4 Illinois, No. 5 Miami. Then, in order, in the Cotton Bowl Georgia upset Texas 10-9; in the Sugar, Auburn beat Michigan 9-7; in the Rose, UCLA crushed Illinois 45-9; and, finally, in the Orange Bowl, Nebraska's failed two-point conversion gave Miami a 31-30 win and the national title.

Today, I'm still eight days from a national champion. In fact, I must wait until Monday to see the Orange Bowl, Tuesday for the Sugar and Friday for the Cotton, reduced to a second-tier bowl and not even played in the Cotton Bowl anymore.

You can't tell the bowl games without a program.

What happened? What reduced New Year's Day to just another day? Why was my suggestion for a bowl party greeted with shrugs usually reserved for going bowling?

Why am I eating this pizza alone?

As with most everything else in college football today, you can blame the BCS. When the BCS formed in 1998, the Rose, Sugar, Orange and Fiesta became the four pillars of the BCS foundation. Each one had a heightened sense of self-importance.

"It was a matter of prime-time exclusivity so more people could watch the games," BCS director Bill Hancock told me Friday. "There's only one prime-time window on New Year's Day."

Hancock said this isn't new. The Sugar Bowl, whose start time always varied, struggled to find a window that didn't overlap some with another bowl. From 1972-75, the Sugar Bowl was played on New Year's Eve. But other than that, it and the Orange Bowl were played on New Year's Day from 1935-95.

This will be the first time the Cotton has been played other than Jan. 1 (or Jan. 2 when Jan. 1 fell on an NFL Sunday) in its 74-year history.

The plan hasn't been universally applauded. Fans wanting to attend this Orange Bowl must get off work Monday, and Stanford students begin class that day. Florida State students have to root for their Seminoles to never get invited. They start class Monday too, and FSU policy requires any student who misses the first day to be tomahawk chopped from the class.

"It does affect attendance," Orange Bowl spokesman Larry Wahl told me. "We had complete sellouts (until) last year. The number of Iowa fans down here last year, as opposed to 2003 for USC, was diminished."

Wahl said Monday's Stanford-Virginia Tech game won't sell out, either.

Too bad it wasn't Saturday. Do we really have to deface New Year's Day with the TicketCity Bowl? But I hold out hope. I have faith in the bowl system, which is why I'm throwing the biggest bash of the new year next Saturday.

Anyone up for a Papajohns.com Bowl party?
 
It's still very much an ACC/Pac-10 thing though. As The Insider said, the second best team in the Pac 10 blew out the champion of the ACC. As he also said, the Pac 10 is an elite conference, right up there with the SEC...and the ACC is not.
While I don't agree the Pac10 is quite at the SEC level, especially past the top 2 teams, they are way above the ACC, who right now is below the MWC, Big East, and WAC (in that order).
 
AMEN yaz!

I mean I know next Sunday I'll be in my favorite chair watching the "Fight Hunger Bowl" :rolleyes

A couple weeks ago I watched the D2 championship....Minnesota Duluth :)) ) versus Delta State. It was funny to hear the announcers make 2 good points (and take a jab at the BS BCS)....by the way the game was on ESPN2 so these announcers have done ESPN games before

pxp guy...."Delta State has 3 losses and yet is still in the final. They could be the first team with 3 losses to win the title"
color guy..."yeah we also have something called a PLAYOFF. Novel concept. Play it out on the field and not a computer"
 
While I don't agree the Pac10 is quite at the SEC level, especially past the top 2 teams, they are way above the ACC, who right now is below the MWC, Big East, and WAC (in that order).

Well the SEC is also looking a little top heavy. Their lower ranked bowl teams have not fared so well...Tennessee and South Carolina even lost to ACC teams!!!

Luckily they had the Big Ten to kick around again on New Years day to bring them back to respectability lol.


Sandra
 
AMEN yaz!

I mean I know next Sunday I'll be in my favorite chair watching the "Fight Hunger Bowl" :rolleyes

A couple weeks ago I watched the D2 championship....Minnesota Duluth :)) ) versus Delta State. It was funny to hear the announcers make 2 good points (and take a jab at the BS BCS)....by the way the game was on ESPN2 so these announcers have done ESPN games before

pxp guy...."Delta State has 3 losses and yet is still in the final. They could be the first team with 3 losses to win the title"
color guy..."yeah we also have something called a PLAYOFF. Novel concept. Play it out on the field and not a computer"

I'm sure all 15 people who were watching that game on TV got a chuckle out of that one! ;) :)

I kid, I kid.


Sandra
 
Well the SEC is also looking a little top heavy. Their lower ranked bowl teams have not fared so well...Tennessee and South Carolina even lost to ACC teams!!!

Luckily they had the Big Ten to kick around again on New Years day to bring them back to respectability lol.
Yes, they have their bottom feeders as well. But it's the middle that makes the difference. They have more meat in the middle than the rest of the conferences, which puts them at the top.
 
Well the SEC is also looking a little top heavy. Their lower ranked bowl teams have not fared so well...Tennessee and South Carolina even lost to ACC teams!!!

Luckily they had the Big Ten to kick around again on New Years day to bring them back to respectability lol.


Sandra

They arent as top heavy as the others, at least i dont think so. The west is pretty good top to bottom with a one team exception. IMO, this is the toughest division in all of college football this season.
The east is weak, ill give you that. Florida and SC are just decent, at best. Georgia, Tenn, and Vandy are blow average. Kentucky is midlevel maybe, I havent seen enough of them to really judge them this season.

Even with the weak East, there is a good chance on having 6 teams out of 12 in the final top 25. With possibly 4 in the top 10.
 
They arent as top heavy as the others, at least i dont think so. The west is pretty good top to bottom with a one team exception. IMO, this is the toughest division in all of college football this season.
The east is weak, ill give you that. Florida and SC are just decent, at best. Georgia, Tenn, and Vandy are blow average. Kentucky is midlevel maybe, I havent seen enough of them to really judge them this season.

Even with the weak East, there is a good chance on having 6 teams out of 12 in the final top 25. With possibly 4 in the top 10.

Yeah, even in a 'down' year the SEC is still very good, no doubt. My only point was that the Pac-10 is at least at or very near their level.


Sandra
 
Yeah, even in a 'down' year the SEC is still very good, no doubt. My only point was that the Pac-10 is at least at or very near their level.


Sandra

Hmm, I just dont see it. Not to take anything away from Oregon or Stanford (two great teams), but as a conference I dont think they can hold up. Those two aside the next best record is by USC at 8-5.
Then only two others that have more wins than losses. Washington and Arizona at 7-6.
Everyone else is 6-6 (only 1) or worse.
Thats half the conference at even or losing records, and two that barely get above that level. Leaving 3 with respectable records.

Edit: on an overall record basis, want to guess how far down the list you have to go to get to an 8-5 record (the third best overall record in the Pac 10) in the SEC? Seventh at Florida.
 
Hmm, I just dont see it. Not to take anything away from Oregon or Stanford (two great teams), but as a conference I dont think they can hold up. Those two aside the next best record is by USC at 8-5.
Then only two others that have more wins than losses. Washington and Arizona at 7-6.
Everyone else is 6-6 (only 1) or worse.
Thats half the conference at even or losing records, and two that barely get above that level. Leaving 3 with respectable records.

Edit: on an overall record basis, want to guess how far down the list you have to go to get to an 8-5 record (the third best overall record in the Pac 10) in the SEC? Seventh at Florida.

Well, if you're going to base it solely on record, since this is college football you have to take strength of schedule into account. You can debate which conference played the more difficult out of conference schedule, but there is one very important fact you cannot debate...

The SEC plays 8 conference games, while the Pac-10 plays 9. The SEC has four out of conference games, the SEC has five. Huge difference, considering that's 12 more potential cupcakes on the SEC schedule, one for every team. That will give you a better record right there.

All that said, the SEC may still be the best conference...but unlike other years, it's very debatable.


Sandra
 
It's still very much an ACC/Pac-10 thing though. As The Insider said, the second best team in the Pac 10 blew out the champion of the ACC. As he also said, the Pac 10 is an elite conference, right up there with the SEC...and the ACC is not.


Sandra

NO...the headline stated...Stanford, the #3/4 team in the country, vs. Virginia Tech, #13/14 ranked team in the country. The 2nd best team in the conference was the 3rd ranked team IN THE COUNTRY. I mean by GOD, who cares! OK, if you use THAT logic, then the PAC-10, who have YET to lose a bowl game...is the best conference in the country??!! :rolleyes:
 

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