2009 NFL Draft Countdown
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That is according to Peter King, according to Cable, once he was named head coach and once he had heard about the ankle situation on Michael Crabtree, they concentrated on 2 WR...Maclin and Darrius Heayward-Bay. That was BEFORE the combines. I respect Peter King, but he is not in the Raiders coaches office to know what the team wants.
That is according to Peter King, according to Cable, once he was named head coach and once he had heard about the ankle situation on Michael Crabtree, they concentrated on 2 WR...Maclin and Darrius Heayward-Bay. That was BEFORE the combines. I respect Peter King, but he is not in the Raiders coaches office to know what the team wants.
But yet WHERE these guys were drafted, somewhat proves that other teams were also about some of the same things....BUT, because THE RAIDERS didn't draft....well, they MUST be wrong.
Why is nobody going nuts all the OTHER teams that passed them? Please.....
I will not attempt to grade the Lion's picks. See me in three years, by then we will all know. I will however question their draft. This is a team that gave up more than 500 points and went defeated this past season. we also have one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL. So you would think those positions would be a priority. We needed a QB for the future, and if they don't rush Stafford he may be good. But a TE with the second pick? I don't care if this guy is the second coming of Gonzalez, what is he going to do for us? We needed a middle linebacker and we draft two undersized OLB's? And to finish the day off, we draft another TE!
Way to fill those holes. Pathetic.
Just once I would like to be wrong about the Lions.....
Way to fill those holes. Pathetic.
Just once I would like to be wrong about the Lions.....
Ya, Chiefs filled some holes, but otherwise it was more or less a 'ok, well Pioli is the man' as the overall impression from the draft. Tyson Jackson at 3 was a reach, but is a perfect fit for KC and we had no 2nd round pick and best at his position in the draft. Our offense was miserable last year but our defense was the reason why we didn't win games. We lost 7 games by a touchdown or less in a division won by an 8-8 team.
We got some prospects, and Cassel + Vrabel for the 2nd pick could end up being the most valuable pick out of any of the 2nd rounders taken, only time will tell. Kicker as Mr. Irrelevant was awesome. We would have taken Curry if he was any kind of pass rushing threat but he's just not that kind of LB. The Chiefs won't break their freshly broken NFL record for least amount of sacks in a season (10) again.
We got some prospects, and Cassel + Vrabel for the 2nd pick could end up being the most valuable pick out of any of the 2nd rounders taken, only time will tell. Kicker as Mr. Irrelevant was awesome. We would have taken Curry if he was any kind of pass rushing threat but he's just not that kind of LB. The Chiefs won't break their freshly broken NFL record for least amount of sacks in a season (10) again.
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Anybody else find it interesting that none of the "experts" and their "mock drafts" weren't even close on this draft? Like I said before, even with all their sources and info, these pundits don't know anything more than we do.
Even "helmet head" had a relatively bad draft, and that's his full-time job!!
All it takes is one trade to mess up an entire mock draft. Some years it's easier to navigate the smokescreens than others. What Tampa did with Leftwich is cold though, they told Freeman that they only signed Leftwich as a smokescreen so people wouldn't suspect they're going for Freeman during the draft. You can rank players all day and be spot on, but team needs (Chiefs pick of Tyson Jackson) and desires (Raiders pick of Mitchell) are too unpredictable for anyone to really nail anything.
Also re: Raiders, I think Crabtree's attitude and perceived disprespect of the Raiders lost him that draft position (and multiple millions of dollars most likely). Ankle concerns just provide a more tangible reason for him to not be picked.
Was reading earlier how the Bengals picked some of the most questionable picks character-wise, so much for things changing in Cincy.
Also re: Raiders, I think Crabtree's attitude and perceived disprespect of the Raiders lost him that draft position (and multiple millions of dollars most likely). Ankle concerns just provide a more tangible reason for him to not be picked.
Was reading earlier how the Bengals picked some of the most questionable picks character-wise, so much for things changing in Cincy.
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I love the optimism and hope you're right, but you sound like a PR man for the Browns
I'm still really mad about the draft.I don't think we got enough from the Jets. The two starters we got are starters by default...I wonder how many winning teams they'd start for.
The first 2nd round choice bothers me the most. We have SEEN Maulaluga play...the guy is an animal. Even if he only turns out to be a 2-down player (which will not be the case, IMO), he'll be damn good those 2 downs.
As far as the guy from Hawaii: The scouting report sounds good....it also sound eerily similar to Chaun Thompson
.Time will tell. I hope I'll look back at this post 3 years from now and laugh at myself for sounding like an idiot
I love the optimism and hope you're right, but you sound like a PR man for the Browns
I don't think we got enough from the Jets. The two starters we got are starters by default...I wonder how many winning teams they'd start for.
The first 2nd round choice bothers me the most. We have SEEN Maulaluga play...the guy is an animal. Even if he only turns out to be a 2-down player (which will not be the case, IMO), he'll be damn good those 2 downs.
As far as the guy from Hawaii: The scouting report sounds good....it also sound eerily similar to Chaun Thompson
Time will tell. I hope I'll look back at this post 3 years from now and laugh at myself for sounding like an idiot
Oh, believe me. I was pissed too.
Check out my comments the day after the draft....
http://www.satelliteguys.us/1798888-post337.html
I guess I'm just accepting our draft now that it's done and trying to look at it from a positive standpoint.
Not for the Chiefs. We had a great draft last year, those picks will help us this year more than any this year outside of maybe Cassel and he was a trade.
Overall we really won't know until the end of the season, but I think the answer will still be no, it was a fairly week draft. This is why people were surprised to see teams like Denver give up their 1st next year to grab people in the 2nd this year.
Overall we really won't know until the end of the season, but I think the answer will still be no, it was a fairly week draft. This is why people were surprised to see teams like Denver give up their 1st next year to grab people in the 2nd this year.
i agree, i think we all know that draft picks are always a risk and there aren't any guarantees but the point is to draft accordingly to your needs. some teams don't do that. and even after the 2nd year it sometimes isn't that clear either.
I don't see a problem with grading a group of prospects based off college performance. That grade may not reflect their performance at the next level is all.
If you're taken in the first couple rounds and the major networks, talking heads, etc don't even have footage on you, then that team has probably made a mistake. We'll see.
If you're taken in the first couple rounds and the major networks, talking heads, etc don't even have footage on you, then that team has probably made a mistake. We'll see.
According to WHO? The same talking head that predicted the "can't miss" players that no longer are in the league??!! Please...you cannot have the best of both worlds when it comes to the "major networks, talking heads, etc"....They want jump up and pound their chest when they are right....and disappear when they are wrong....
How about Texas Tech's record setting QB, Graham Harrell not being drafted?!....
I know most people think he was a "system type" QB, but no one was willing to take a flyer on one of the top QB's in College Football?
[ame="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4105406"]Mike Leach of Texas Tech takes aim at NFL draft - ESPN[/ame]
I know most people think he was a "system type" QB, but no one was willing to take a flyer on one of the top QB's in College Football?
[ame="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4105406"]Mike Leach of Texas Tech takes aim at NFL draft - ESPN[/ame]
According to WHO? The same talking head that predicted the "can't miss" players that no longer are in the league??!! Please...you cannot have the best of both worlds when it comes to the "major networks, talking heads, etc"....They want jump up and pound their chest when they are right....and disappear when they are wrong....
Agree to disagree then I guess, there's no convincing many Raider fans, the Kool-Aid is too strong. You just keep refocusing on the flaws with rating people in the draft when the player they selected didn't do anything to impress on the field, just had good workouts and that's why he was drafted where he was. I'd agree with you if we were talking about 5th and 6th round picks here, but instead we're talking about 5th or 6th+ round talent being picked 47th overall in a draft of 256.
Crabtree came across as a thug in his interviews with Deion on NFLN, his attitude is why he slid IMO, past the Browns and Raiders, cost him millions.
I was paying more attention to their comments after watching the Top 10 Draft Busts show on NFLN on Friday... #1 was Ryan Leaf and one thing that helped the Colts make their decision and also made analysts weary was their answers to what happens if/when they get drafted/signed. Manning said some predictable get to work response, Leaf said he was going to Vegas.
Bengals loaded up on guys with records.
I was paying more attention to their comments after watching the Top 10 Draft Busts show on NFLN on Friday... #1 was Ryan Leaf and one thing that helped the Colts make their decision and also made analysts weary was their answers to what happens if/when they get drafted/signed. Manning said some predictable get to work response, Leaf said he was going to Vegas.
Bengals loaded up on guys with records.
