YoutubeTV 2025 price increase

[Jimbo]

How much do those cost vs. the sports channels? The cost of sports is just the biggest problem of course. The proliferation of channels with tiny audiences (if any, statistically speaking) that incrementally increase the cost is also a problem, but eliminating the sports is the most obvious way to cut the cost.

I have a different view of this issue, because, I don't use any of the RSN's that I have available ...
However, I sub to the MLB package and the NFL package (NFL is not RSN's I know).

I get the Package so I can see out of market teams.
Steelers and Texans (and Lions which would be in my area, but NFL isn't on the RSN's)
Astro's and Red Sox
Occasionally another

 

[Jimbo]

How much do those cost vs. the sports channels? The cost of sports is just the biggest problem of course. The proliferation of channels with tiny audiences (if any, statistically speaking) that incrementally increase the cost is also a problem, but eliminating the sports is the most obvious way to cut the cost.

Well, with D*, the Packages would be about $160 ish for MLB ... (I may be going the Streaming version this year, which is cheaper)
NFL package is all over the place depending on what else you have ... it continues to climb ... it was about $440 ish without a YTTV sub, last year.

The Sports Channels, what are you referring to ones like ESPN and FS1 and what not ?
Those I have no idea.

 

[AZ.]

I think all the sports leagues should lift all territorial restrictions so you can watch what you want. That would take pressure off the RSN as they could still produce pre and post games at some profit point.
Some want their local channels, and you pay for them.
Some want kids programming, and you pay for them.
I dont see choice at all, because to few are players anymore, when it comes down to media giants!

 

[comfortably_numb]

Between Netflix, OTA and Philo, I have so much content I'll never be able to watch it all in my lifetime. So for $35 a month, I don't forsee myself spending any more than that except for one-off sporting events or movie rentals on Fandango/Vudu.

 

[ncted]

Well, with D*, the Packages would be about $160 ish for MLB ... (I may be going the Streaming version this year, which is cheaper)
NFL package is all over the place depending on what else you have ... it continues to climb ... it was about $440 ish without a YTTV sub, last year.

The Sports Channels, what are you referring to ones like ESPN and FS1 and what not ?
Those I have no idea.

RSNs, ESPN, FS1, etc. FWIW: I pay for F1TV, so I am not against sports in general. I am just against it being such a huge part of the bill. As long as that is the case, I will argue it should be in its own tier.

 

[Bruce]

RSNs, ESPN, FS1, etc. FWIW: I pay for F1TV, so I am not against sports in general. I am just against it being such a huge part of the bill. As long as that is the case, I will argue it should be in its own tier.

If sports channels were not part of the core package, they would no longer exist.

The biggest evidence are the RSNs, they have lost 65% of subscribers, due to services that quit carrying them and cord cutting and that loss is still growing.

Just not enough people care about watching sports channels to make them profitable in their own tier, would not get enough subscribers.

Even Football, the vast majority do not watch it.

Last year’s Super Bowl, which had great ratings, was still only a tad above 47 Million Households out of 131 Million, that means over 83 Million Households were not watching.

And has anyone seen ESPN’s ratings after Football season, lucky to crack 1% for Regular Season Sports.

 

[comfortably_numb]

If sports channels were not part of the core package, they would no longer exist.

Bleeding the cash cow dry..

 

[ncted]

If sports channels were not part of the core package, they would no longer exist.

Only because the sports networks have continued to overpay the leagues. What we are seeing is a market adjustment. Eventually, either they will have to offer less to carry the games or they will go out of business. This is what happens naturally to unsustainable business models. Adapt or die.

 

[comfortably_numb]

the sports networks have continued to overpay the leagues

Some baseball players may have to live on $220 M instead of $232 M... the horror!!

 

[Bruce]

Going over pricing with YTTV.

I keep reading at other sites how YTTV pricing is becoming like Cable/Satellite.

Well, it is not even close.

First, Dish Network.

The package that is the most similar to YTTV’s is America 120+, due to certain channels that are not in 120, but are in YTTV’s, Big Ten for one example.

120+ is $102.99 then another $14 for locals, as it says this in the link below-

core package prices do not include local channels prices, except for Welcome Pack and DishLATINO Básico.

Then for DVR/3 Boxes ( which is included with YTTV), another $24 a month.

That is $140.99 a month, $58 more then YTTV, $696 for the year difference.

DirecTV is actually about the same, since they have the RSN charge, makes it harder to figure out, the package close to YTTV is Choice, but without the RSN and the fee.

MyDISH

my.dish.com

 

[AZ.]

RSNs, ESPN, FS1, etc. FWIW: I pay for F1TV, so I am not against sports in general. I am just against it being such a huge part of the bill. As long as that is the case, I will argue it should be in its own tier.

Well I think the crap Disney pulls off is a double whammy! They have all those channels, kid channels, then add sports and hold them all hostage for more money.....

 

[dishdude]

Going over pricing with YTTV.

I keep reading at other sites how YTTV pricing is becoming like Cable/Satellite.

Well, it is not even close.

First, Dish Network.

The package that is the most similar to YTTV’s is America 120+, due to certain channels that are not in 120, but are in YTTV’s, Big Ten for one example.

120+ is $102.99 then another $14 for locals, as it says this in the link below-

core package prices do not include local channels prices, except for Welcome Pack and DishLATINO Básico.

Then for DVR/3 Boxes ( which is included with YTTV), another $24 a month.

That is $140.99 a month, $58 more then YTTV, $696 for the year difference.

DirecTV is actually about the same, since they have the RSN charge, makes it harder to figure out, the package close to YTTV is Choice, but without the RSN and the fee.

MyDISH

my.dish.com

Which is why I'm still with Dish. I have a Wally, OTA adapter and they keep giving me $40/mo off.

The content is so poor, I'm not sure it's even worth $65/mo I'm paying.