UPDATED - New Dish Pricing Info!

[SandFarmer]

I bought a Sony Blu Ray BDP-N460 player that can stream Netflix movies and I love it so far. For $8.99 a month, I think Netflix is a good deal. I'm paying more because I added the Blu Ray option but so far I love this player and Netflix.

I got an LG BD-390 that has Netflix, Vudu, YouTube and CinemaNow (and more coming in the future - ) in addition to being able to read off any shared volume on my entire network, Mac or PC. I started to figure it out and and I can have a couple rental subscriptions and buy a BD or two a month and still save over the premium services from DISH. OF WHICH I can get sooner or at the same time as they come out on DISH AND get it in real 1080p/24, not 1080i/whatever on DISH. Plus over the past couple of years since the Prem's have out lived their usefulness, I have seen their programming become nothing but repeats of repeats and fair that you can see on regular "cable" with a few "newbies" tucked in. Why bother? So as far as I am concerned DISH is hanging themselves. And if we are here to see them wise up there will a major 180 in actions or a dynamic service upgrade for no charge. And yes without admission to fault or stupidity. I'll be spun into some grand a glorious "we love our customers" event. Only time will tell . . . more.

 

[bobvick]

So, using this new information, if I want to keep AEP and keep my bill nearly the same (It is $119.99 per month now) I can get rid of one of my 722k's (I only use the single tuner on one) and replace it with a 612 and I would just get charged $99.99 for AEP + $10 for HD + $10 for the 612 + $6.00 for the DVR fee which would make for a total of $125.99?
I had wanted to upgrade to a 922, is it likely that if I got the 922 that Dish would treat it the same way as the 722k, I.E. no fees on the highest cost receiver?
Maybe we will learn more from CES next week.

Thanks

 

[rdinkel]

Having AEP plus one 722k, two 612s, and an owned 622 always connected to phone and internet, my costs are going to take a major hit. So, I just dropped multi-sports (RedZone), Super Stations, and placed the owned 622 on inactive. That will offset $29 dollars of the Feb 1 increases. With these new equipment charges it sure isn't worth $17 a month to have the 622 in the quest bedroom active all the time!

 

[Bob Haller]

while some try to figure out how to keep their bill about the same it might be more effective to compare other providers and alternatives.

the best thing to do with any business who gouges is vote with your wallet.

if this 17 buck charge comes true I will vote with my feet and cancel service altogether.

If E gets enough churn they will e think their pricing model

 

[KAB]

while some try to figure out how to keep their bill about the same it might be more effective to compare other providers and alternatives.

Isn't all that yelling from the rafters making your voice horse?

 

[Bob Haller]

Isn't all that yelling from the rafters making your voice horse?

better to yell now than get raped later.

honestly I REALLY WANT to keep E, BUT this new pricing scheme tells me they only want the bucks and dont value their customers.

TRULY SHOULD TV COST VER A 100 BUCKS A MONTH?

 

[Mike_H]

HBO and Showtime need to start making their signal available as a stream on some sort of IP TV service. There certainly some original shows on those two networks that I will miss when dropping AEP. I guess I'll be buying season DVD sets.

I've tried comparing with other services, but most of them don't publish normal rates, only introductory rates, which makes it hard to compare. The simple part for me is that Dish has long had a value proposition that really left no need for an existing subscriber to go shopping around. With these proposed prices, the value proposition for Dish Network will change significantly. They are going to be increasing the cost of their service without a corresponding increase in services received, negatively impacting the value of their service.

Maybe it is this type of change with the typical medial delivery services (cable, satellite, OTA) that is necessary to make IPTV services viable?

 

[duckydan]

Based on what I am reading here I don't think my billing is going to change at all.

I have the Dish 100 (aka 120 next month) w/ locals for $39.99
a VIP 722 as my primary receiver so a $5.98 DVR Fee
a 211k as my secondary receiver so a $7.00 additional receiver fee
and Bronze HD for $10 addon...

My October bill (last month I didn't have a UFC PPV on my bill) was for $67 and my total here is $63 before tax ($4.18) so everything should stay the same.

It seems they only like to screw the people who spend the most...

 

[KAB]

TRULY SHOULD TV COST VER A 100 BUCKS A MONTH?

You've obviously never had comparable cable for over six months.

 

[Slamminc11]

better to yell now than get raped later.

honestly I REALLY WANT to keep E, BUT this new pricing scheme tells me they only want the bucks and dont value their customers.

TRULY SHOULD TV COST VER A 100 BUCKS A MONTH?

Because DTV, Comcrap, Time Warner, and all the others ones actually care about the customer...
Businesses are in the business of making money. That is the point of a business.

 

[dont24]

while some try to figure out how to keep their bill about the same it might be more effective to compare other providers and alternatives.

the best thing to do with any business who gouges is vote with your wallet.

if this 17 buck charge comes true I will vote with my feet and cancel service altogether.

If E gets enough churn they will e think their pricing model

Exactly. Every time Comcast calls me to switch, it comes down to the same thing for me. With AEP, the equipment charges are lower to stay with Dish. Guess what!? Not anymore! If they go ahead with these prices increases, I'll take another look at the Comcast pricing.

 

[ramimac]

I can not believe this. I am in ahh... I was actually considering coming back to E* due to the DVR. But with the fact i need a higher package to get the channels that i want. mainly for my kids. This Equipment fee just had my mind changed.

 

[cditty]

HBO and Showtime need to start making their signal available as a stream on some sort of IP TV service. There certainly some original shows on those two networks that I will miss when dropping AEP. I guess I'll be buying season DVD sets.

I've tried comparing with other services, but most of them don't publish normal rates, only introductory rates, which makes it hard to compare. The simple part for me is that Dish has long had a value proposition that really left no need for an existing subscriber to go shopping around. With these proposed prices, the value proposition for Dish Network will change significantly. They are going to be increasing the cost of their service without a corresponding increase in services received, negatively impacting the value of their service.

Maybe it is this type of change with the typical medial delivery services (cable, satellite, OTA) that is necessary to make IPTV services viable?

As far as HBO goes, I found out a long time ago that it is cheaper to just buy Entourage and True Blood on DVD than it is to subscribe. I know, you have to wait until the season is over, but you can watch them in a row if you want to.

 

[ramimac]

Because DTV, Comcrap, Time Warner, and all the others ones actually care about the customer...
Businesses are in the business of making money. That is the point of a business.

I would not go that far.. I am with D* and they are having CS problems of there own.

Now they want to charge for MRV

 

[MikeD-C05]

Based on what I am reading here I don't think my billing is going to change at all.

I have the Dish 100 (aka 120 next month) w/ locals for $39.99
a VIP 722 as my primary receiver so a $5.98 DVR Fee
a 211k as my secondary receiver so a $7.00 additional receiver fee
and Bronze HD for $10 addon...

My October bill (last month I didn't have a UFC PPV on my bill) was for $67 and my total here is $63 before tax ($4.18) so everything should stay the same.

It seems they only like to screw the people who spend the most...

You will see your dvr fee go up by $1.02 over what it is today to $6.00. So you will take a minor hit in programming fees. You 211k will stay just $7.00 like it is today.

 

[KAB]

I would not go that far.. I am with D* and they are having CS problems of there own.

Now they want to charge for MRV

Slammin's sarcasm went right over your head.

 

[bobvick]

while some try to figure out how to keep their bill about the same it might be more effective to compare other providers and alternatives.

the best thing to do with any business who gouges is vote with your wallet.

if this 17 buck charge comes true I will vote with my feet and cancel service altogether.

If E gets enough churn they will e think their pricing model

Unfortunately, where I live there is no cable TV available, C-Band is dead (as far as subscription HD goes), and DirecTV is the only viable alternative to Dish Network and their costs would be about the same or even more. CenturyLink is the local teleco, but being in a rural area it will be YEARS before they ever get their U-Verse type service out here.

 

[Bob Haller]

You've obviously never had comparable cable for over six months.

my cable experience and defection to E was over 13 years ago, with TCI who was al;ways adding new channels like TV Land in a few years, and they had a company policy against sending a tech out after hours when a cold sensitive amplifier caused some channels to be unusable.

I demanded they remove the cable service drop from my home once I got E. TCI refused I said fine I will get my dykes, might do some colateral damage

Neighbors reported they replaced the noisey amp a month later

and despite some bad times with poor software and buggy boxes have been largely happy with E over the years.

however the bundling discounts available with FIOS and comcast are substantial. Plus comcast has lots of free VOD shows/

I wouldnt be checking on alternatives if E wasnt planning on a 17 buck per box fee!!

 

[satjay]

In our area with comcast it still does not work out, the rental fee for a couple of HD DVR's is high, gone are the days when you could split cable and get a decent amount of channels as with digital you need boxes. And they do not have the HD channels, though in all there commericals they mention over and over the HD "Choices". I dropped AEP and my price is not to bad.

 

[Slamminc11]

Slammin's sarcasm went right over your head.

apparently by about a stratosphere...