The Traxis DBS4000 ?

[Mr Tony]

Pedro,

I can assure you that I am not mistaken about the LNB.

But considering you sell those products your tests have to be taken with a grain of salt. Its the same thing if Sadoun did a test on his products or WSI did a test on their products. We have to take them with a grain of salt.

Now if someone else did a review on it and tested it, then we would have some unbiased opinions.

And why would they state their posts were being removed ?

I dont know why you keep asking Pedro about that. Staff is the only one who could do that. I see his post above asking where "the truth" went when that is his only post.

 

[FTA Show]

Then I would assume that since you who are part of the forum, have absolutely no regards as to the Gold Member Advertisers claims of their products. This is the same as you stating that I work for Mr. Heinrick. Also I receive absolutely no funds from Mr. Heinrich as DMSI pays for the show directly to the Satellite Uplinker and not me. So I receive no funds to do the show from DMSI. The show belongs to me and not Mr. Heinrich I am not an employee or nor do I work for DMSI in a paid or voluntairy position. I did not receive a free dish including shipping from any of the sponsors on our show.

 

[fullwaylnb]

Yes! my post did get removed when I saw Satellite AV comments how he had tested our LNB last year, I only want to make a statement this Easy Find system was final released after DMS and their receiver manufacture back and forth test software until it is perfectly meet North American marke requirements in May this year.
We do not sending this item to anyone beside DMS so far, before we sign up exclusive distributorship with DMS, we have sales promoting it but seems not quite ready at that time due to the receiver readiness.
I am only here to make story straight, if offend anyone I am sorry!

 

[Mr Tony]

Then I would assume that since you who are part of the forum, have absolutely no regards as to the Gold Member Advertisers claims of the products.

correct. I review products from all sources. I have reviewed products from sponsors/non sponsors/ebay items etc

This is the same as you stating that I work for Mr. Heinrick.

you sell his products. I never said you work for him.

 

[Mr Tony]

We do not sending this item to anyone beside DMS so far, before we sign up exclusive distributorship with DMS, we have sales promoting it but seems not quite ready at that time due to the receiver readiness.
I am only here to make story straight, if offend anyone I am sorry!

Thats cool. No offense taken

 

[FTA Show]

How about the free dish from a current sponsor ?

 

[Mr Tony]

They weren't a sponser at the time and I didnt ask for it.
If they sent it to me then that is their prerogative

 

[pedrogarcia]

FTAshow > my application to Fullway was via their website yesterday, I did address my concern to them direct which was the correct proceedure. They were not a forum member to my knowledge at the time. Clearly they should not be passing their trading infomation to you a 3rd party.
Since you mention it perhaps you should take a look at my profile, I was SE level.

 

[pedrogarcia]

I am only here to make story straight, if offend anyone I am sorry!

No offence taken

 

[FTA Show]

PedroGarcia

No mention on profile as to your level. Also offense is spelled with an "S". Also why do you think I am just a third party ? In regards to FullwayLNB status they have been a member of this forum since January 23, 2007. Almost a year before you were a member, and long before I was a member under my current user name. I was just informed by Fullway LNB that you had contacted them ( their Sales department ) but were informed that the Easy Finder LNB was a not being sent out to anyone but DMSI.

 

[pedrogarcia]

PedroGarcia

No mention on profile as to your level. Also offense is spelled with an "S". Also why do you think I am just a third party ? In regards to FullwayLNB status they have been a member of this forum since January 23, 2007. Almost a year before you were a member, and long before I was a member under my current user name. I was just informed by Fullway LNB that you had contacted them ( their Sales department ) but were informed that the Easy Finder LNB was a not being sent out to anyone but DMSI.

Yes I saw Fullway will not send except to signed up DMSI in their forum post. If you are not employed by Fullway you are a 3rd party to my correspondence with them. Level was in post and I am not going to expand on it if you do not understand it.
I am English so offence is spelt correctly. Since you brought up the matter you could look in your own posts for actual spelling mistakes.

 

[FTA Show]

Sorry wrong again I am not a third party. Also simple working at NORAD does not make your level SE. Been there... done that.... got the T-Shirt.

 

[pedrogarcia]

No comment I have PM ed you

 

[FTA Show]

Received your PM and presented you with some additional facts and figures.

 

[FTA Show]

I think the main thing about this LNB has completely been disregarded. And that is the feature in which it allows a relatively new FTA user the ability to locate the satellites without the aid of an expensive satellite meter or a satellite installer's fees. The fact that it is also a .1 noise figure is just icing on the cake. This whole thread has been completely skewed with the talk about a .1 LNB not obtainable. Which is in effect simply incorrect since the LNB is a .1 LNB. No one stated that the Tech Sat Tracker II was not a .2 LNB as the wholesaler stated it was. And that LNB was manufactured by another manufacturer also.

 

[Mr Tony]

And that is the feature in which it allows a relatively new FTA user the ability to locate the satellites without the aid of an expensive satellite meter or a satellite installer's fees.

but you have to use that receiver. What if they want to use another receiver? Then it wont work like that.

The fact that it is also a .1 noise figure is just icing on the cake. This whole thread has been completely skewed with the talk about a .1 LNB not obtainable. Which is in effect simply incorrect since the LNB is a .1 LNB.

I have already stated my views on it

No one stated that the Tech Sat Tracker II was not a .2 LNB as the wholesaler stated it was. And that LNB was manufactured by another manufacturer also.

correct. If you read the review it was mentioned that you'd gain a couple points on signals but the stability was the main thing
http://www.satelliteguys.us/fta-mpeg2-equipment-reviews/116168-techsat-tracker-ii-0-2db-lnb.html

Seriously though I find your results very hard to believe considering that the Traxis units are meter misers. A few points between LNB's yes...but I find very hard to believe that on G18 11800 TP you show these

.4-Sadoun - ULN1 Ku Band LNB - 48% to 53%
.3-DMSI - JSC-321 Ku LNB - 55% to 63%
.2-WSI Tech Sat Tracker II - 55% to 63%
.1-DMSI Easy Finder Ku LNB - 76% to 81%

when I have tested both a Sadoun .4 (which I use on my motorized 76cm dish) and the Techsat .2 and saw a couple point difference on a Pansat 1500 which has a pretty true (and spazzy) meter. Right now my Pansat shows a 75 quality on the Sadoun .4 so using your theory the DMSI one should max the meter?

As stated before, when someone who doesn't sell the product reviews it, then I'll believe the results

 

[fullwaylnb]

Hi Guys, every receiver manufacture using different main CPU chip (Solution), tuners and their own source codes to mapping their software, key things for a good receiver is its tuner! Tuner sensitivity these days are well made, Traxis DBS 4000 are happen to use the best Sharp tuner, its sensitivity is -129dB.
From tuner signal comes in engineer use I2C + AGC to mapping percentage reading which is what you see in OSD the S/Q & S/Strength, every engineer has its own calculation table, some use pure linearity, some use enhanced AGC so the results of what is getting various by brands, to be fair to judge performance do not just compare these numbers, when LNB is side-by-side compare if base on same receiver, same dish, same length of cable, same time frame with maximize skew and focal depth adjustment, the result is trust worthy!

 

[FTA Show]

In the same sense then I suppose that by accepting advertising on your forum your reviews are also to be suspected. Since you would not want to upset paying advertising on your forum ? And if any other FTA Retailer/Distributor comes out with a .1 LNB now you have put the doubt in everyones minds of that distributors honesty.... even those on your forum. Until proven different I will accept the honesty of DMSI and Fullway LNB. Since neither have even done anything to make me and thousands of purchasers to believe anything less.

 

[Mr Tony]

Since obviously this thread is going nowhere except for the mudslinging I am closing it.

Very rarely do I close a thread. If I wanted to (like Ive seen on other boards) I could post some feelings or opinions then close it like "oh goody I got the last word in. Hee hee" but I'm taking the high road on this one.