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you need to tell us how you are aligning the other LNBs, I suspect most of the differences can still be in alignment
and considering you are a DMSI retailer/reseller I guess we should take the "results" with a grain of salt then 
Interesting as my Sadoun duals have received better results than some of the DMSI LNB's
Interesting as my Sadoun duals have received better results than some of the DMSI LNB's
Well if you say so but you need to look for other reason (weather at up and down link, transmission gains, time of day, atmospherics etc ), because as sure as heck you can't get that S/Quality differential between those LNBs. You did not mention what you are using to align thd LNBs.
As for the .1 claim if they want to let me have a sample I'll lab test it and tell you the actual figures.
I have to say the vast majority of LNB manufacturers performance claims are incorrect and just marketing claims
Easy Finder LNB Test
Considering the test of the 4 LNB's was performed in about a 2 hour period the weather conditions would not have changed much. Other LNB's have been reviewed here and have received high marks. And considering the comments that we are a DMSI Dealer I could also make the same assertion regarding .Sadoun's status as a Gold Advertiser here. And the grain of salt would be the same on this end. I would like to state that I found it rather amusing that rather unflattering comments were made on June 30, 2009 about the Easy Finder LNB, when the LNB was not even out for the general public and reviewed on July 3, 2009. I suppose some individuals have the power of precognition when it is applied to professional results of a new product. However, the proof is in the pudding. We have received extremely high marks from individuals on the Easy Finder LNB as well as the DMSI BSC421 that Mr. Tony Dunnett tested in New Zealand last week. The .1 is not a claim it is a fact, as far as receiving one for testing I believe that they are on sale and can be readily purchased from various DMSI vendors. And as far as being a DMSI Reseller yes I am. And extremely pleased to be one I might also add. Their products are as advertised and I have the highest regards for Mr. Heinrich who is a leader in the Satellite Industry. And we are extremely proud to have him underwrite our radio show also. No doubt this post will be altered or completely removed as others have been in the past.
Considering the test of the 4 LNB's was performed in about a 2 hour period the weather conditions would not have changed much. Other LNB's have been reviewed here and have received high marks. And considering the comments that we are a DMSI Dealer I could also make the same assertion regarding .Sadoun's status as a Gold Advertiser here. And the grain of salt would be the same on this end. I would like to state that I found it rather amusing that rather unflattering comments were made on June 30, 2009 about the Easy Finder LNB, when the LNB was not even out for the general public and reviewed on July 3, 2009. I suppose some individuals have the power of precognition when it is applied to professional results of a new product. However, the proof is in the pudding. We have received extremely high marks from individuals on the Easy Finder LNB as well as the DMSI BSC421 that Mr. Tony Dunnett tested in New Zealand last week. The .1 is not a claim it is a fact, as far as receiving one for testing I believe that they are on sale and can be readily purchased from various DMSI vendors. And as far as being a DMSI Reseller yes I am. And extremely pleased to be one I might also add. Their products are as advertised and I have the highest regards for Mr. Heinrich who is a leader in the Satellite Industry. And we are extremely proud to have him underwrite our radio show also. No doubt this post will be altered or completely removed as others have been in the past.
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I would agree here if Sadoun had done the review, but since in most cases I did the review, I am very unbiased. If something is bunk I will call it bunk. I don't make something sound good just to make sales. I dont remember getting any kickbacks for "praising" an item. I work here voluntarily like the whole staff here does.
again, until someone else says otherwise, I will still take it with a grain of salt.
OK. I'm glad you like DMSI stuff. I personally have had 4 DMSI 4x1 switches blow a port on them.
Bad batch? maybe
User error? Highly doubt it to blow 4 of them yet other switches work fine
you must have me confused for another board because unless you are a spammer, hacker or post feeds the post doesnt get removed or edited.
I am now awaiting my sample easyfind LNB, (GK 411 50DL) from the manufacturer Fullway Communications from Taiwan. I'll let you know the real specs asap.
I see there are DMSI sites now selling the LNB at $49 shipping free, sounds expensive to me.
I have to say for the benefit of new guys to FTA there is no way you are going to get a noticable better quality or capture that evasive weak signal by getting a lower noise LNB (even if the far east manufacturers were telling the truth). Signal gain is almost entirely due to dish size. The more expensive LNBs are down to build quality. This can make a big difference in Michigan winters or for that matter in extreme heat.
I see there are DMSI sites now selling the LNB at $49 shipping free, sounds expensive to me.
I have to say for the benefit of new guys to FTA there is no way you are going to get a noticable better quality or capture that evasive weak signal by getting a lower noise LNB (even if the far east manufacturers were telling the truth). Signal gain is almost entirely due to dish size. The more expensive LNBs are down to build quality. This can make a big difference in Michigan winters or for that matter in extreme heat.
I found that going from a .3 db noise to a .2 db noise made a big difference in my signal quality.
I admit that a bigger dish helps. But when you take in the price, and shipping cost of a bigger dish; a low noise, low cost lnbf makes sense.
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Hi Guys,
Why is this board keep removing my post? Is that someone here doesn't like to hear the truth from manufacture?
Why is this board keep removing my post? Is that someone here doesn't like to hear the truth from manufacture?
Not removing Posts ??????
fullwaylnb
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Hi Guys,
Why is this board keep removing my post? Is that someone here doesn't like to hear the truth from manufacture?
fullwaylnb
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Hi Guys,
Why is this board keep removing my post? Is that someone here doesn't like to hear the truth from manufacture?
I can assure you, you are mistaken. There are so many things that can alter your signal strength, from transmission gain during commercials, weather either at up or down link, atmospherics, skew, Satellite position in its orbit box, even the LNB 1/4 "nearer or further from the dish
I have put hundreds of commercial low cost and military LNBs through lab testing and very few commercial match the manufacturer claims. Military LNBs are somewhat better but at a huge cost and then you will still not find a .1dB.
I can tell you that most current advertised low cost LNBs of .3dB and .2dB tested were actually near .4dB. Does all this matter, not if you can get a locked signal that is continuous with no break up.
I promise you, you are wasting your time trying to get gain from LNBs. Forget LNB claims, bigger dishes are a multiplication of gain, pay the shipping it will be cheaper in the long run.
Have sent you a PM
fullwaylnb
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Hi Guys,
Why is this board keep removing my post? Is that someone here doesn't like to hear the truth from manufacture?
I don't know, I don't have the power to alter or remove posts if that is what you are thinking
Pedro,
I can assure you that I am not mistaken about the LNB. Also you did not address the comment as to Fullway. We contacted them and they informed us that no LNB was requested or sent to you. What is going on with that ? And why would they state their posts were being removed ? The same dish was used with the test. The test was conducted at approximately the same time of day so weather conditions would have played a very small part if any in the test. The skew was set properly on all LNB's prior to each test, and as far as Satellite Position in the box unless an asteroid moved the sat in the time of the test or Mr. Heinrich waved his and and moved the sat I sincerely doubt that was a factor. LNB ratings do play a large part in signal strenth. And I also know about military applications since I was a Senior Systems Analyst GS-11 Level for the DOD and had over 20 years in the military. I also hold a U.S. Army Signal Corps Affiliation which is no small trick since I was in the United States Marine Corps. I also hold a Novell Network Certified Network Instructor, Certified Network Enginer and Certified Network Administrator from the military. I also was an Adjunct Professor of Computer Sciene for the U.S. military. I just thought I would add that since you had in your post your experience with governmental and military applications.
I can assure you that I am not mistaken about the LNB. Also you did not address the comment as to Fullway. We contacted them and they informed us that no LNB was requested or sent to you. What is going on with that ? And why would they state their posts were being removed ? The same dish was used with the test. The test was conducted at approximately the same time of day so weather conditions would have played a very small part if any in the test. The skew was set properly on all LNB's prior to each test, and as far as Satellite Position in the box unless an asteroid moved the sat in the time of the test or Mr. Heinrich waved his and and moved the sat I sincerely doubt that was a factor. LNB ratings do play a large part in signal strenth. And I also know about military applications since I was a Senior Systems Analyst GS-11 Level for the DOD and had over 20 years in the military. I also hold a U.S. Army Signal Corps Affiliation which is no small trick since I was in the United States Marine Corps. I also hold a Novell Network Certified Network Instructor, Certified Network Enginer and Certified Network Administrator from the military. I also was an Adjunct Professor of Computer Sciene for the U.S. military. I just thought I would add that since you had in your post your experience with governmental and military applications.
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for most people thats all they want
I promise you, you are wasting your time trying to get gain from LNBs. Forget LNB claims, bigger dishes are a multiplication of gain, pay the shipping it will be cheaper in the long run.
That is true. Tried a lower LNB on the 76cm for LPB on AMC21 (125W) and could get it fine during the day but nothing at night. Put the same LNB on the 1.2m dish and rock solid all day and night
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