The Traxis DBS4000 ?

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DMSI, the importer of the Traxis line, does not list a 4000.
One of their dealers doesn't list the 4000 (thought it might be old stock)
And a Google [ame="http://www.google.com/search?q=traxis+4000&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&client=firefox-a"]search[/ame] didn't find a 4000.
 
Guys, you've heard rumors about a new product from DMS thats different from anything else.

Im pleased to announce its finally here! Now before you get too excited these are not for sale yet but will be very, very soon.

This is another revolutionary product with breakthrough technology from the undisputed leader, DMS International.


Traxis DBS4000 Receiver with Easy Find Technology and the new Easy Find Digital 0.1dB LNBF


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Copy and Paste From the official website:

Revolutionary new system, the Easy Signal Finder System! With the Easy Signal Finder System, you don't need an installer, and you won't spend countless hours reading poorly written instructions or trying to find the satellite you want. Armed with a few hand tools for quick assembly, a compass (and some common sense), you can align this system within 10 minutes! You can end all your frustration of dish alignment by using the Easy Signal Finder patented technology that comes exclusively with our receivers!

In the past few years, delivering programming via satellite has become easy and fairly inexpensive. Satellite can deliver programming almost anywhere; making it attractive for the program provider and the prospective audience.

The Easy Signal Finder System is perfect for organizations delivering programming via satellite. We all know the problems using outside installers! But, with the Easy Signal Finder, there is no need to worry about the expense, inexperience, or even those who try to sell their products to our customers! Now, with the Easy Signal Finder, you can provide reception and satisfaction to your customers on your own terms.

Now you can eliminate all the problems of the installation by using the Easy Signal Finder System. With the Easy Signal Finder System, you can concentrate on promoting your programming - not on installation support.

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So, whats different and unique about this system?

The Traxis DBS4000 and the Easy Find Digital LNBF are designed to work together to help you find the signal. The LNBF has a LED light on it that when matched with the proper receiver (Traxis DBS4000) will indicate when you have signal and install is complete. Red LED means no signal, Yellow LED means your close, Green LED means you have a signal lock.

Thats it. No need for meters ever again. Quick and easy set-up with a few hand tools and instruction.

There is nothing else like this anywhere.

Learn more at the official support website:

http://www.easysignalfinder.com/

Of course HyperMegaSat.com will be one of the first dealers to carry these products and legalfreetoair.com will provide you with all the forum support you need.

Stay tuned for more information, and product reviews.

We are making calls to DMS to get sample products in here as soon as possible.

And, we are making arrangements to give away the test samples to a lucky forum member!

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* Note: you may copy and past this on other forums if you like just give credit to HyperMegaSat.com or LegalFreeToAir.com forums please.

i got this in my email today.
 
clever idea

Now you are ready to start aligning your dish while watching the light on the LNBF. When the light is RED it means there is no signal. YELLOW light means signal but not locked. GREEN light means signal locked. The light will also flash. The faster it flashes the better the signal.
Probably sends diseqc or some sort of pulse commands to the LNBf.
Interesting ploy to get the receiver -and- LNB sale! :)

The manufacturers are scurrying for some new market niche!
 
I hope it works, if everybody will never need a signal meter again-I want one of those birddogs when people start throwing them away!
 
The manufacturer of the concept contacted us last year and offered to license the technology. We tested the sample units hoping that it might simplify the Glorystar system installation. Instead, out testers found it was frustrating as they were expecting all channels to come in as soon as they saw a green light, but discouraged because the LNBF's were not peaked. To peak the SQ, they still needed to take a TV out to the dish.

It was easy to determine if the dish was on the correct bird when a unique transponder is selected on the receiver, but beyond acquisition, the concept did not assist in the peaking process. The LNBF LED would turn yellow when the correct signal was detected and green as soon as the signal was strong enough to provide a lock. Novel, but does not replace a signal meter or the receiver's built-in meter function along with a small TV.

Anole, you are correct. One would have to purchase the combination of the specific receiver and LNBF to experience the process. Here at Satellite AV, we have been working on a new inline product that is installed at the dish and outputs either a return RF connection or AV to a TV for monitoring the receiver's output and includes a Remote Extender for controlling the receiver. This device could be included with a receiver for less than $5 and work with any receiver or LNB combination. Less stuff to carry onto the roof.....
 
..........Here at Satellite AV, we have been working on a new inline product that is installed at the dish and outputs either a return RF connection or AV to a TV for monitoring the receiver's output and includes a Remote Extender for controlling the receiver. This device could be included with a receiver for less than $5 and work with any receiver or LNB combination. Less stuff to carry onto the roof.....

Wow!

Very cool, please keep us updated on your progress with this effort. :up
 
The manufacturer of the concept contacted us last year and offered to license the technology. We tested the sample units hoping that it might simplify the Glorystar system installation. Instead, out testers found it was frustrating as they were expecting all channels to come in as soon as they saw a green light, but discouraged because the LNBF's were not peaked. To peak the SQ, they still needed to take a TV out to the dish.

It was easy to determine if the dish was on the correct bird when a unique transponder is selected on the receiver, but beyond acquisition, the concept did not assist in the peaking process. The LNBF LED would turn yellow when the correct signal was detected and green as soon as the signal was strong enough to provide a lock. Novel, but does not replace a signal meter or the receiver's built-in meter function along with a small TV.

Anole, you are correct. One would have to purchase the combination of the specific receiver and LNBF to experience the process. Here at Satellite AV, we have been working on a new inline product that is installed at the dish and outputs either a return RF connection or AV to a TV for monitoring the receiver's output and includes a Remote Extender for controlling the receiver. This device could be included with a receiver for less than $5 and work with any receiver or LNB combination. Less stuff to carry onto the roof.....
thanks bro .interesting concept though.:up
 
Here at Satellite AV, we have been working on a new inline product that is installed at the dish and outputs either a return RF connection or AV to a TV for monitoring the receiver's output and includes a Remote Extender for controlling the receiver. This device could be included with a receiver for less than $5 and work with any receiver or LNB combination. Less stuff to carry onto the roof.....

Interesting concept, Brian, and good to hear about. The fact that it would work on any LNB(F) is the big selling point for me. A test point up in the dish farm where I could connect a battery-powered DVD player for use as a video monitor would be perfect! I'd certainly spend more time tweaking, since it wouldn't be such a big hassle :) ...
 
When I see an LNB marked as .1dB or even .2dB it makes me angry. In this case it just gives a lack of credibility to the package which is a shame because Traxis make decent receivers. Even the concept of this easy find is not going accurately find a desired bird in 10 minutes and when it does accuracy cannot be achieved.
The real answer would be to produce a reasonably priced meter and S/A.
 
Is it really a .1 db noise ?

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A while back I had brought a Techsat Tracker II .2 db lnbf, and it made a big difference from my other .3 db lnbf.


So if it is really a .1 db noise; I might be interested.

If it has a LO stability as good or better then the Techsat Tracker II.

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As you pointed out by mentioning L.O. stability, there are other factors involved in LNBF performance besides noise rating. I have a .9 Norsat that performs as well as my .3 Invacom Quad. These noise factor claims can generally be ignored, as they are only one small piece of the puzzle. How well does the LNBF perform in extreme temperatures? What is the build quality (physical and electrical)? These qualities are as important, if not more, than the exaggerated noise factor claims by manufacturers.
 
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I talked to someone that got a 4000 and the new LNBF system. The results were very good. They were able to get RTV (RTN) when before they could not. The LED light will flash faster in green when you get closer to the best singnal quality. I can see this to be a very nice setup even for temporary setups like when in the RV ect.
 
Easy Finder LNB Test

I recently tested the Easy Finder LNB. Here is the results of that test. The test was conducted on a 76 CM DS-2076 Winegard Ku Band Dish using the following LNB's. The frequency used was on Galaxy 18 11800 - V - 26657. Below is the results of that test for each LNB. This LNB was offically available on Friday July 3, 2009 when this test was performed and the results provided

.4-Sadoun - ULN1 Ku Band LNB - 48% to 53%
.3-DMSI - JSC-321 Ku LNB - 55% to 63%
.2-WSI Tech Sat Tracker II - 55% to 63%
.1-DMSI Easy Finder Ku LNB - 76% to 81%

I also tested the above LNB's on AMC 9 - RTN East & West and received a 59%
 
What receiver were you using to test these diff lnbs? Was that a signal strength or signal quality reading?
 
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