Seems like every college football thread here has morphed into an Ohio State thread...
Sandra
The next 2 universities being looked at for taking gifts/money: The U and Alabama!
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Seems like every college football thread here has morphed into an Ohio State thread...
Sandra
Another reason I think the NCAA needs a total rules overhaul. If the school knew of this and did nothing, punish heavily. If the school did not know but the coach (or staff) knew, punish the coach and slap the wrist of the school for the first violation and become more severe for other violations. If the coach lied or tried to cover up, ban him from ever coaching any level of college sports again. The tricky part is if the players violated rules, the school, the coaching staff, and others did not know and this was found out afterwards. Unless the school has a history of this I am not sure what good it does to punish the school, program, coaches, and the kids who go to play. Surely we can find a way to deal with that situation. These are just my opinions.
You know, I am getting a strange feeling that they will not get a death penalty. I mean given to what happened to SMU and the financial ramafications this could have on a school and a community, I have a strange feeling they are gonna get nailed to the wall JUST SHORT of a death penalty. Now I am NOT saying(before the usual suspects put words in my mouth) that IF everything that is alleged is proved to be true, they do not deserve the death penalty....What I am saying is before ANY NCAA infractions team makes a decision THAT final, you can best be sure that city leaders in Miami and anywhere else where there is a possibility of a death penalty can take place, there will be discussions on what is best for the community as a whole.
Tressel was his own worst enemy. It's not like the AD WANTED to fire him. With all the evidence that Tressel lied to the NCAA over his knowing about illegal player percs, all the email coverups, the university had no choice. If Tressel had just been a LITTLE dirty, he'd still be there.
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Good points, but for this kind of situation...I just think it is WAY too late to do something about it now.
Totally agree...to the extent the illegalities went, and the coverup, Tressel had to go.
Sandra
Let's not be naive here to think Miami is the only school in the country to do this "bounty hunting". The difference here is that it is mentioned and the phrase "bounty hunting" was used and not called a 'defensive challenge'. As long as there were no flags for 'extra curricular activities', they are clean hits and all league within the game.
The school needs to be very pro active and deal swiftly with any person involved. I know we need rules but I hate the idea of a university, fan base, students, and staff to suffer for things they cannot control. As I think someone else said earlier, you cannot watch every player 24/7. If the players were allowed to receive a small sum of money to help with normal kid expenses and wants, would that solve the temptation? Not entirely but it is quite obvious that what the NCAA is doing now is not working either. Now that the NCAA rakes in billions college sports, to a large degree, have been damaged. I think it was in the movie, Bobby Jones, Stroke of Genius, where the comment was made, money will ruin sports. Maybe we are there.
I agree totally. The school has to fess up to EVERYTHING, not matter how ugly it may get...and by the sound of the allegations, the ONLY thing left to make it sound worse would be for the players to be involved in human sacrifices...and I am not trying to be funny with that comment. The U cannot do anything about the coaches that were involved because they are gone. Though I do not think they will get the death penalty for the reasons I stated earlier, I think the ONLY way they can possibly avoid it would be to lay it all out on the table.
And by they way, I was the one that stated that they cannot be watched 24/7. I have also stated that a scholarship is just not enough in this modern economy that we live in. As you stated, giving them something in their pocket may not completely stop it, but it may slow down the temptation just a little. I mean if I am poor kid living in poverty and someone where to offer me $1000 in cash...I doubt highly that I would say no.
What would help put alot is IF the NFL would get involved in some way, but they don't give a crap about college football except "send me up that stud running back".
Sports Section? We should rename this forum to Sports Soap Digest!
You people are killing me...absolutely killing me! Only a handful of replies to meaningful Sports Section subjects like "The British Open" and "PGA Championship" yet post after post, jab after jab, poke after poke, about a nonsensical 15-minute topics like Tressel/Pryor leaving OSU or the NCAA investigating some booster shenanigans. Ugh! I think you people need to watch a Soap Opera before they all disappear from the airwaves. I've posted the following schedule for your convenience since y'all love discussing this kind of garbage:
ABC:
All My Children (to be cancelled in September)
One Life to Live (to be cancelled in September)
General Hospital
CBS:
The Young and the Restless
The Bold and the Beautiful
NBC:
Days of our Lives
You people are killing me...absolutely killing me! Only a handful of replies to meaningful Sports Section subjects like "The British Open" and "PGA Championship" yet post after post, jab after jab, poke after poke, about a nonsensical 15-minute topics like Tressel/Pryor leaving OSU or the NCAA investigating some booster shenanigans. Ugh! I think you people need to watch a Soap Opera before they all disappear from the airwaves. I've posted the following schedule for your convenience since y'all love discussing this kind of garbage:
ABC:
All My Children (to be cancelled in September)
One Life to Live (to be cancelled in September)
General Hospital
CBS:
The Young and the Restless
The Bold and the Beautiful
NBC:
Days of our Lives
Let's not be naive here to think Miami is the only school in the country to do this "bounty hunting". The difference here is that it is mentioned and the phrase "bounty hunting" was used and not called a 'defensive challenge'. As long as there were no flags for 'extra curricular activities', they are clean hits and all league within the game.
Offering $5,000 to any player who can knock another player out of the game(hurt) is not all part of the game. Sure, most quarterbacks get a little rattled and won't play as well after they have been knocked around a few times. They might use more blitz packages to try to get more contact on the QB but offering money to knock someone out of the game implies dirty play. It encourages things like twisting ankles under the piles and taking cheap shots.
Are you kidding me!? There are much better SOs on the air than that crap you listed (no offense riff...just trying to keep with the flavor of this threadYou people are killing me...absolutely killing me! Only a handful of replies to meaningful Sports Section subjects like "The British Open" and "PGA Championship" yet post after post, jab after jab, poke after poke, about a nonsensical 15-minute topics like Tressel/Pryor leaving OSU or the NCAA investigating some booster shenanigans. Ugh! I think you people need to watch a Soap Opera before they all disappear from the airwaves. I've posted the following schedule for your convenience since y'all love discussing this kind of garbage:
ABC:
All My Children (to be cancelled in September)
One Life to Live (to be cancelled in September)
General Hospital
CBS:
The Young and the Restless
The Bold and the Beautiful
NBC:
Days of our Lives
).
Giving Miami the death penalty would be "cutting off your nose to spite your face." The Television & Sports Networks would revolt. If the NCAA wants to do that,they better pay back all of the money they got from the networks to carry Miami games. I predict that the NCAA will face the death penalty before Miami does.
mccoyrj said:Are you kidding me!? There are much better SOs on the air than that crap you listed (no offense riff...just trying to keep with the flavor of this thread
Try the spanish soap operas in the spanish stations....the women and the scandal will put anything on any American TV to shame.... ;-)
I do not think we will ever see the "death penalty" again. It did so much damage to SMU (a small school), it could devastate a major university and their conference. (Especially taking into account the TV net contracts as mentioned above)
The problem is IMO is that if a team wants to win they need the good players and those players aren't going to any school for just a education that they think they don't need anyway, they want money, girls and cars and the school needs to get the players those things so they can win.
The schools won't admit they are doing it but IMO they have to know.
You don't see schools that don't win with these type of problems, maybe a few arrests for fighting or drunk driving but nothing to the extend of what is going on at the big schools.
The schools won't admit they are doing it but IMO they have to know.
You don't see schools that don't win with these type of problems, maybe a few arrests for fighting or drunk driving but nothing to the extend of what is going on at the big schools.
riffjim4069 said:You people are killing me...absolutely killing me! Only a handful of replies to meaningful Sports Section subjects like "The British Open" and "PGA Championship" yet post after post, jab after jab, poke after poke, about a nonsensical 15-minute topics like Tressel/Pryor leaving OSU or the NCAA investigating some booster shenanigans. Ugh! I think you people need to watch a Soap Opera before they all disappear from the airwaves. I've posted the following schedule for your convenience since y'all love discussing this kind of garbage:
ABC:
All My Children (to be cancelled in September)
One Life to Live (to be cancelled in September)
General Hospital
CBS:
The Young and the Restless
The Bold and the Beautiful
NBC:
Days of our Lives
sorry but I just don't like golf so I don't open those threads.
yaz96 said:
Miami is as small if not smaller than SMU. I hope not....but in all honesty it is gonna depend on the cooperation of the school and the mood the NCAA is in. I just hope Miami's reputation from their past does not come into play.
