well, Jordan I do not think it matters whether I have 20K or 40K posts. If dish does watch the forum it could tell them the concerns of many of posters in the same situation. This is a problem that it is lingering and may in the end cost them potential customers as customers sometimes have little patient. My post was not to ask a direct question (because I knew the answer more or less) but to entice a conversation about why Dish Network does this and practice. I have yet to the receivers and I am not upset about it. I will call them tomorrow and probably get another installation date.