I have my DPH-42 on my chimney. I wonder if Brussam is concerned about the safety of the 42 switch to thieves...
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I keep mine in the basement out of the weather and away from the DPH42 switch thieves.
Nah, on a portable tripod setup, a thief would just walk away with the whole thing. In almost 75 years of camping and RV'ing though, I've never had anything stolen except a few food items by four legged critters wearing masks, and big black critter wearing a bearskin coat.
I take it there is no real advantage to having the 3 LNB set up?? Not sure, is the three LNB set up only available on 1000.4?
Ok, if you're that limited on storage space, I guess that sort of makes sense. Cost wise, one DPH42 is about the same price as two DPH LNB's, one for each arc.
If you're in a fixed location with a good line of sight to the eastern arc, then the dual 61.5/72.7 LNB is all you typically need. For the western arc sats, a triple LNB is always used. An eastern arc triple LNB is only available for the 1000.4
And instead of a printed guide, there are several smartphone apps that will show you the sight line to the the sats where you are along with more precise settings than the ZIP Code based guides.
First, the current Western Arc dishes (1000+, 1000.2, 1000.4) have at least 3 LNBFs. On the other hand, an Eastern Arc 1000.4 has 3 LNBFs while the EA 1000.2 only has two LNBFs (sats 61.6 & 72.7).
If you travel around the country, then having a 3 LNBF Eastern Arc dish is very useful as sat 77 is used for locals in several markets:
The cost of two LNBFs, WA and EA is relatively the same whether it is for a DPP 1000.2 or DPP 1000.4 or DPP 1000.2 Hybrid. The DPH-42 switch desn't not negate the need for both LNBFs.
The point though, was that the superior for RV'ing 1000.4 dish can be used with a Hopper 3 by adding a DPH42 . Whether the aiming convenience of the 1000.4 is worth any cost difference is a different question.
Please define "superior for RV'ing 1000.4". Screw elevation is hardly a superior feature as I has screw elevation with a $13 kit from TV4RV.com. Bigger dish reflector? I had no problem getting the WA from Prince Edward Island with a DPP 1000.2.
The value of satellite 77 is nil to me as virtually everything is on other satellites. I watch Broadcast channels not locals, i.e. I don't care where they come from.
The value of satellite 77 is nil to me as virtually everything is on other satellites. I watch Broadcast channels not locals, i.e. I don't care where they come from.
The 1000.4's included fine tuning for elevation and azimuth plus the stronger construction are the primary advantages for frequent setups and aiming. The reflector size difference is minimal, but the addition of the 77 sat capability can be very useful for some us, particularly when we can use one of the several CONUS beamed HD locals during dispute outages, etc., that are only available on 77 for the most part. OTA locals are not always available where we travel. For myself and many other RV'ers with a tripod mounted dish as their primary sat antenna, those are worthwhile features with no extra cost. I assume your Trav'ler is your primary sat antenna, with the tripod mount only used when the Trav'ler has no LOS. As long as you're happy with your current setup, that's fine too.
Thank you, this was very useful. It's sounding like I could get by with my 1000.2 and two LNBs while in the WA zone. If so, do I aim for 110, 119 or 119, 129?First, the current Western Arc dishes (1000+, 1000.2, 1000.4) have at least 3 LNBFs. On the other hand, an Eastern Arc 1000.4 has 3 LNBFs while the EA 1000.2 only has two LNBFs (sats 61.6 & 72.7).
If you travel around the country, then having a 3 LNBF Eastern Arc dish is very useful as sat 77 is used for locals in several markets:
Thanks, I already have an app called Satfinder Lite which points out the sats. Does it point to predicted sat positions or their actual location?
When aiming the DPP 1000.2, the center LNBF, 119, is the aiming satellite. If you Skew is set properly, the other two satellites will be in target when 119 is locked in. The values in the various tables, are with 119 as the aiming satellite.
The sats are shown in their actual locations relative to where you are viewing them from with the app. The DBS TV sats are all stationary relative to their location over the earth at the equator since they rotate at the same speed as the earth's rotation. For the technical purists, the sats do move around slightly within an assigned "box" and require periodic correction signals from a ground station when they approach the box limits, but that relatively small movement has no effect on the signals reaching your dish.
Here's a photo comparison:
- The 1000.4's fine tuning rod makes it much easier to change elevation. Otherwise, with a 1000.2, you have to loosen the elevation side bolts while holding the dish up. Klunky.
- I like that the 1000.4's elevation arc is vertical (easier to read), not horizontal as on the 1000.2.
- Both the 1000.4 and 1000+ use similar rugged construction.
True enough, but the leftmost LNBF terminal is for sat 119 and should be used for sat meter peaking:
Actually since there is a multi-swict in the LNBF head, there is no dorect electrical connection between any of the coax terminals and the LNBF heads. Just because you connect to the left coax terminal, there is no guarantee that the 119 LNBF is electronically attached.
110 and 119 can be selected by voltage or a 22 KHz tome and using DESQ commands, 110, 119 or 129 can be selected. By default without a selecting voltage, tone, or DESQ command, you get 110 LNBF.
Hooked up to the receiver may give you the selection signal. Or use a meter that generates the DESQ commands or the 22 KHz tone can insure you are using the 119 LNBF.
110 and 119 can be selected by voltage or a 22 KHz tome and using DESQ commands, 110, 119 or 129 can be selected. By default without a selecting voltage, tone, or DESQ command, you get 110 LNBF.
Hooked up to the receiver may give you the selection signal. Or use a meter that generates the DESQ commands or the 22 KHz tone can insure you are using the 119 LNBF.
