Newbie needs guidance!

[rimichael]

OK, Seems my best quality is fluctuating between %55 and 71%. I'll go back to that horizon point and tighten it down then I'll start with the elevation .

 

[FTA4PA]

It was part of a dish package but will do also I think I'm getting close...some channel's pop up during the scan then disappear. see pic's.

Well, you are definitely very near a sat as you are getting a quality reading during blind scan. Now if you could just get the receiver to log a channel or two to figure out what sat you are actually near. Keep up the good work!

 

[rimichael]

Well, you are definitely very near a sat as you are getting a quality reading during blind scan. Now if you could just get the receiver to log a channel or two to figure out what sat you are actually near. Keep up the good work!

Thank you for the encouragement, This is the best I can lock in. It grabs 10+ frequencies then drops them and goes in to the scan again. I have tightened everything up and am wondering what else to do next?

 

[primestar31]

Thank you for the encouragement, This is the best I can lock in. It grabs 10+ frequencies then drops them and goes in to the scan again. I have tightened everything up and am wondering what else to do next?

I think you are on 99W. That's a tough one for a small dish. Try moving your dish a HAIR towards the EAST. Put that pencil mark on it like I stated, so you can always go back. Then a tiny little twist to your LEFT. Then rescan

 

[FTA4PA]

Thank you for the encouragement, This is the best I can lock in. It grabs 10+ frequencies then drops them and goes in to the scan again. I have tightened everything up and am wondering what else to do next?

Since you are temporarily using your dish without the motor did you manually skew the lnbf for 97W at your location?

 

[arlo]

Listen to them. But maybe tune on a H tp and adjust skew for max signal. Then tune to a V tp and tweak skew for max. Jump back and forth to reach a happy medium. Is your lnbf able to be moved towards and away from the dish? There's another hint. Just be sure to not turn it in relation to the dish. Turn the whole dish for skew.
Could you post the current scale angles please?

 

[rimichael]

Since you are temporarily using your dish without the motor did you manually skew the lnbf for 97W at your location?

yes 24..4 clockwise. I will go back in a few and kick it a notch to the east and see what's biting! LOL

 

[primestar31]

yes 24..4 clockwise. I will go back in a few and kick it a notch to the east and see what's biting! LOL

Just the tiniest movement. The width of a pencil LEAD!

 

[rimichael]

Just the tiniest movement. The width of a pencil LEAD!

Got it.

 

[rimichael]

Ok guy's after about 150 trips total today its time for a nap! LOL... I ended up loosing what signal I got when I moved towards the east ever so slightly. I will pick up in the morning and head back west to see what I can do with that signal. Everyone have a good night and I'll chat with you in the am.

 

[primestar31]

Ok guy's after about 150 trips total today its time for a nap! LOL... I ended up loosing what signal I got when I moved towards the east ever so slightly. I will pick up in the morning and head back west to see what I can do with that signal. Everyone have a good night and I'll chat with you in the am.

You might need to also raise the dish elevation a hair, from the 99W aim that was giving you those data transponders. I'm positive it was 99W, based on the numbers you were getting.

 

[Titanium]

I also think that you are on the adjacent satellite 99w. the 12100 transponder that you blind scanned is Hughesnet internet data and is a very strong transponder. The polarity on the blind scanned transponders is not correct. I think that the Skew rotation is the wrong direction. Please stand in front of the dish and take a photo of the LNBF in the foreground and the dish behind it. Just like the image below on the right.

Living in Florida and pointing to 97W (which is West of your location), the LNBF skew rotation follows the arc as it drops to the West. Standing in front of the dish and looking at the back of the LNBF, the rotation will be counter clockwise (rotated to the to the Left / West).

Also, the LNB setting should be Standard with LO setting of 10750. This is NOT a Universal type LNBF.

 

[rimichael]

I also think that you are on the adjacent satellite 99w. the 12100 transponder that you blind scanned is Hughesnet internet data and is a very strong transponder. The polarity on the blind scanned transponders is not correct. I think that the Skew rotation is the wrong direction. Please stand in front of the dish and take a photo of the LNBF in the foreground and the dish behind it. Just like the image below on the right.

Living in Florida and pointing to 97W (which is West of your location), the LNBF skew rotation follows the arc as it drops to the West. Standing in front of the dish and looking at the back of the LNBF, the rotation will be counter clockwise (rotated to the to the Left / West).

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Also, the LNB setting should be Standard with LO setting of 10750. This is NOT a Universal type LNBF.

ok thank you for all the info. I do have the skew in the opposite direction so that helps greatly. I tried to continue east yesterday without a hit but i will start a track for it slowly. I have also been using just the 10750 lnb info rather than the "labeled" universal 10750 LNB. This is going to take a bit but being off 2 degrees shouldn't be long.

 

[primestar31]

ok thank you for all the info. I do have the skew in the opposite direction so that helps greatly. I tried to continue east yesterday without a hit but i will start a track for it slowly. I have also been using just the 10750 lnb info rather than the "labeled" universal 10750 LNB. This is going to take a bit but being off 2 degrees shouldn't be long.

Don't forget, you are aiming at a satellite 23,000 miles away. The slightest movement is MANY miles azimuth that far out! Practically breathing on the dish could move it to the next satellite.

Since you were on 99w, just raise the dish in elevation a hair, set the lnbf skew correctly, and bump the dish a hair to your LEFT. Then run another blindscan.

 

[rimichael]

Ok, I think I might be getting close... I get between 3-5% quality and when scanned these show up then disapear. Am I warm or still on 99W?

 

[primestar31]

Ok, I think I might be getting close... I get between 3-5% quality and when scanned these show up then disapear. Am I warm or still on 99W?

I think 95W. So, make a pencil mark there on the POLE, and split the difference between that, and the original pencil mark that was 99W.

You did make marks, right?

 

[rimichael]

Yes I did mark everything. will split the distance between the two. BRB.

 

[rimichael]

yahoo, hit channels. First stab and I got 39% quality then the channels kicked in! See pic.

 

[primestar31]

yahoo, hit channels. First stab and I got 39% quality then the channels kicked in! See pic.

YAY! That does appear to be 97W. Now, Quit for a bit, and think about things.

Is your receiver in the house, or up at the dish? If up at the dish, then go back, and slightly LEAN a finger on the dish a little bitty bit while you have the QUALITY meter running on a channel, and see which way a hair leaning on it gets it to come in with a HIGHER level. Up/Down/East/West... a tiny turn on the lnbf, slightly move lnb IN, slighty pull lnb OUT, etc

 

[rimichael]

YAY! Now, Quit for a bit, and think about things.

Is your receiver in the house, or up at the dish? If up at the dish, then go back, and slightly LEAN on the dish a little bitty bit while you have the QUALITY meter running on a channel, and see which way a hair leaning on it gets it to come in with a HIGHER level.

My receiver is in the house but I can continue to run up and down. Np.