NCAA Football 2011-2012

[JAG72]

If there is only one best team in a conference, how can number two not be better than any other top team in a weaker conference?
Nobody is ignoring it, i just havent seen anyone explain why against it.

Biggest complaint is that Alabama has already lost to LSU. They should not have a rematch for the NCG.

Personally I don't think this will happen anyways unless VT or Stanford loses this week or in their conference championship game. The one extra game (and win) will most likely knock Alabama out of the title game.

 

[Ronnie-]

Biggest complaint is that Alabama has already lost to LSU. They should not have a rematch for the NCG.

Personally I don't think this will happen anyways unless VT or Stanford loses this week or in their conference championship game. The one extra game (and win) will most likely knock Alabama out of the title game.

Looking at the difference in points in the rankings, I dont think that a win over lower teams will boost the up that much.

Yes, bama has lost to LSU, in overtime by a field goal.
VT lost to Clemson, badly. Stanford lost to Oregon, again badly, and on top of that, Oregon lost to LSU badly.
I dont see how either of them have a better argument, even with wins of championship games from lesser conferences.

 

[JAG72]

Looking at the difference in points in the rankings, I dont think that a win over lower teams will boost the up that much.

Yes, bama has lost to LSU, in overtime by a field goal.
VT lost to Clemson, badly. Stanford lost to Oregon, again badly, and on top of that, Oregon lost to LSU badly.
I dont see how either of them have a better argument, even with wins of championship games from lesser conferences.

Of course you don't Mr Homer.

Being idle will be the death of Alabama.

 

[Ronnie-]

I dont agree, I think we have the best seat in the house that is the march to the NCG. We dont have the potential pitfall that is LSU and the SECCG, and we are far enough ahead in the rankings that all we have to do is win, and I am not discounting Auburn in saying that. The iron bowl is always dangerous.

 

[Ronnie-]

I am a homer though.

 

[JAG72]

I dont agree, I think we have the best seat in the house that is the march to the NCG. We dont have the potential pitfall that is LSU and the SECCG, and we are far enough ahead in the rankings that all we have to do is win, and I am not discounting Auburn in saying that. The iron bowl is always dangerous.

We will just have to wait and see. It is just a gut feeling on my part and we have seen idle teams get passed up in the past.

 

[Jimbo]

Looking at the difference in points in the rankings, I dont think that a win over lower teams will boost the up that much.

Yes, bama has lost to LSU, in overtime by a field goal.
VT lost to Clemson, badly. Stanford lost to Oregon, again badly, and on top of that, Oregon lost to LSU badly.
I dont see how either of them have a better argument, even with wins of championship games from lesser conferences.

Soooooo ......

Lets not have a game and just GIVE it to LSU ????

 

[yaz96]

Soooooo ......

Lets not have a game and just GIVE it to LSU ????

or Alabama........

 

[Ronnie-]

Soooooo ......

Lets not have a game and just GIVE it to LSU ????

'

Dont recall saying that.

or Alabama........

Or that.

 

[cybok0]

Nope. Boise wouldn't be considered as they are not a BCS school.

Same with Notre Dame. Join a conference already.

From what I understand, correct me if inn wrong if notre dame has a better record than the winner of the big east than they get the bowl.

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[JAG72]

From what I understand, correct me if inn wrong if notre dame has a better record than the winner of the big east than they get the bowl.

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We were talking about potential changes to the BCS.

 

[dvrexpander]

We will just have to wait and see. It is just a gut feeling on my part and we have seen idle teams get passed up in the past.

Yeah an idle team will do just that...idle and again if you don't win you're Conference you don't deserve to be in the NC game - a lot of voters will see this not to mention a past loss and the not wanting a boring rematch.

 

[atl14dat]

People are delusional if they think Stanford or Va Tech will pass Alabama, provided Alabama Wins against Auburn

Stanford is a good team that may get in the hunt if they Win their final regular season game, CCG and Alabama Loses.
Neither Stanford or Va Tech will pass Arkansas if they(Hogs) win out for that matter.

For the record VA Tech is the worst one loss team by far and quite likely the worst team even if you put the two loss teams in the mix. Once voters take a renewed look at Va Tech's actual Wins over the dregs they have played they will be passed by other teams coming from behind them.

Quite simply the most overrated team in the Country.

Teams still in the hunt for the BCS CG, the Three SEC teams, Oklahoma State,Stanford, and possibly even two loss teams Oklahoma or the Oregon Ducks if things fall right.

Teams currently in the Top Ten of the BCS with no shot, Va Tech, Boise State, Houston.

 

[mccoyrj]

People are delusional if they think Stanford or Va Tech will pass Alabama, provided Alabama Wins against Auburn

Stanford is a good team that may get in the hunt if they Win their final regular season game, CCG and Alabama Loses.
Neither Stanford or Va Tech will pass Arkansas if they(Hogs) win out for that matter.

For the record VA Tech is the worst one loss team by far and quite likely the worst team even if you put the two loss teams in the mix. Once voters take a renewed look at Va Tech's actual Wins over the dregs they have played they will be passed by other teams coming from behind them.

Quite simply the most overrated team in the Country.

Teams still in the hunt for the BCS, the three SEC teams, Oklahoma State,Stanford, and possibly even two loss teams Oklahoma or the Oregon Ducks if things fall right.

Teams currently in the top ten of the BCS with no shot Va Tech, Boise State, Houston.

:behindsofa:

This is what Kirk Herbstreit said on the BCS show last night. Lol! I bet our local VT fan didn't take that well, and he won't this either.

 

[atl14dat]

Va Tech has played two quality opponents this season, Clemson who kicked their ass in Blacksburg and Ga Tech, which was a nice win for the Hokies. Rest of their wins are over mediocre to poor teams.

They will be passed by teams coming from behind them even if they Win Out.

Hopefully if the do win out(doubtful) they can be matched against the Big East Champ in A BCS Bowl thus ruining only One BCS Matchup instead of two if they aren't matched up against each other.

 

[dvrexpander]

:behindsofa:

This is what Kirk Herbstreit said on the BCS show last night. Lol! I bet our local VT fan didn't take that well, and he won't this either.

I'll just ignore what he's saying since I believe he's a UVA fan...

 

[salsadancer7]

Hopefully if the do win out(doubtful) they can be matched against the Big East Champ in A BCS Bowl thus ruining only One BCS Matchup instead of two if they aren't matched up against each other.

Ah....oh-kay. Why wouldn't you WANT them to play a big conference team to further prove your point? IF they want to be with the big boys(and I mean BOTH the Big East conference winner AND the ACC winner)...throw them in there with the supposed lions? Further proving to all those conference "fan boys" that neither conference deserves getting an automatic bid for being the conference champ.

 

[atl14dat]

Ah....oh-kay. Why wouldn't you WANT them to play a big conference team to further prove your point? IF they want to be with the big boys(and I mean BOTH the Big East conference winner AND the ACC winner)...throw them in there with the supposed lions? Further proving to all those confrence "fan boys" that neither conference deserves getting an automatic bid for being the conference champ.

Didn't say anything about stripping them of the AQ Invite. That particular stipulation is what it is. As a fan of Bowl Games I want to see the best possible matchups from my personal point of viewing interest.

Seeing any ACC team or Big Least team get their asses handed to them in a BCS matchup has zero appeal to me as a viewer .Absolutely No points remain to be proven where those two Conferences are in the pecking order. They battle every season to keep from being labeled the Worst BCS AQ Conference. That battle has been going on for years.

Though in fairness to the ACC, (IMO) they are still quite a bit stronger than the Big Least.

Hopefully in the next BCS contract the AQ stuff will be stripped out.

 

[salsadancer7]

Didn't say anything about stripping them of the AQ Invite. That particular stipulation is what it is. As a fan of Bowl Games I want to see the best possible matchups from my personal point of viewing interest.

Seeing any ACC team or Big Least team get their asses handed to them in a BCS matchup has zero appeal to me as a viewer . No points to be proven where those two Conferences are in the pecking order. They battle every season to keep from being labeled the Worst BCS AQ Conference. That battle has been going on for years.

Though in fairness to the ACC, (IMO) they are still quite a bit stronger than the Big Least.

Hopefully in the next BCS contract the AQ stuff will be stripped out.

Big East records in bowl games since 2005:

Big East 21-10 (.677)
SEC 32-19 (.627)
Pac 10 19-13 (.594)
Big 12 24-23 (.510)
ACC 22-28 (.440)
Big 10 16-28 (.363)

Big East postseason profile (since 2005):

Overall: 21-10
vs BCS teams: 12-10
BCS Games: 3-3

vs non-BCS 9-0 (.1000)
vs SEC 3-1 (.750)
vs Big 12 3-1 (.750)
vs ACC 6-5 (.545)
vs Pac-10 0-3 (.000)
vs Big 10 0-0


Big East best in bowl games since '05 - Card Chronicle

 

[salsadancer7]

Best part of that post.. look at their record AGAINST the SEC and Big 12...a combined 6-2 ..and ironically, 6-5 against the ACC. So what does that say... NOTHING. This thing about 'who has a better conference' and 'my dad can beat up your dad' is just silly and dumb. In a one game playoff like the bowls are... the ASSUMPTIONS of how bad 1 conference is and how good another 1 is...is just that...assumption.