NBA 2011-2012 PLAYOFFS

Experience favored the Mavs, Lakers and Spurs too, but OKC put them all away. The Thunder big 3 have been playing together longer than the Heat's big 3, and the bench is deeper. Maybe Spoelstra is a better coach than Popovich (yeah, right), but I'm saying OKC in 6.

Let's break it down:

PG: Westbrook over Chalmers
SG: Wade Over Sefolosha
SF: Lebron SLIGHTLY over Durrant(ONLY because Lebron is a better defender...other than that, EVEN)
PF: Bosh SLIGHTLY over Ibeka(ONLY because Bosh has better offense game)
C: Perkins over Halsem

Bench: OKC slightly over Miami(more offense from OKC, better defense from Miami)
Coach: Spo slightly over Brooks

Most believe due to OKCs performance deserves to be favored. I believe that as well. The BIGGEST advantage here is OKC has the home court advantage. Other than that...it is pretty much even across the board.
 
Let's break it down:

PG: Westbrook over Chalmers
SG: Wade Over Sefolosha
SF: Lebron SLIGHTLY over Durrant(ONLY because Lebron is a better defender...other than that, EVEN)
PF: Bosh SLIGHTLY over Ibeka(ONLY because Bosh has better offense game)
C: Perkins over Halsem

Bench: OKC slightly over Miami(more offense from OKC, better defense from Miami)
Coach: Spo slightly over Brooks

Most believe due to OKCs performance deserves to be favored. I believe that as well. The BIGGEST advantage here is OKC has the home court advantage. Other than that...it is pretty much even across the board.
Nat a bad breakdown. I could disagree on a couple of things, but it's close. I think Harden off the bench gives OKC the edge. When the teams played in Miami late in the season, it was a WAR! I think the playoffs will be like that too.
 
Nat a bad breakdown. I could disagree on a couple of things, but it's close. I think Harden off the bench gives OKC the edge. When the teams played in Miami late in the season, it was a WAR! I think the playoffs will be like that too.

OH NO...Harden off the bench is VERY big....offensively. Not so much defensively...as compared to Miller, Battier and Anthony off the bench.

You saw "mines"..show me "yours"? Where do you disagree?
 
Good stuff from Bill Simmons...

I don't know what happened. I just know the shots wouldn't stop going in. After about the fifth dagger in a row (he made 10 straight), the crowd started groaning on every make — shades of Philly's Andrew Toney ripping our hearts out 30 years ago. If you've ever been in the building for one of those games, you know there isn't a deadlier sound. He single-handedly murdered one of the giddiest Celtics crowds I can remember. Thirty points in the first half. Thirty! All with that blank look on his face. It was like watching surveillance video of a serial killer coldly dismembering a body and sticking the parts in the fridge. Only we were right there.

You can't imagine what this was like to witness in person. I know Michael Jordan had similarly astonishing games, and others, too, but not with stakes like that. This wasn't just an elimination game. This was LeBron James's entire career being put on trial … and it only took an hour for him to tell the jury, "Go home. I'm one of the best players ever. Stop picking me apart. Stop talking about the things I can't do. Stop holding me to standards that have never been applied to any other NBA player. Stop blaming me for an admittedly dumb decision I never should have made. Stop saying I'm weak. Stop saying that I don't want to win. Stop. Just … stop."

As a Celtics fan, I was devastated. As a basketball fan, I appreciated the performance for what it was. One of the greatest players ever was playing one of his greatest games ever. He swallowed up every other relevant story line. Needless to say, the Celtics couldn't match him — especially Pierce, who's worn down from four weeks of battling Andre Iguodala, Shane Battier and LeBron on one leg and appears to be running on fumes of his fumes' fumes at this point. The fans were so shell-shocked that many (including me and my father) filed out with three minutes remaining, not because we were lousy fans, not to beat the traffic, but because we didn't want to be there anymore. We wanted to get away from LeBron. He ruined what should have been a magical night. We never really had a chance to cheer, swing the game, rally our guys, anything. He pointed a remote control at us and pressed "MUTE." It was like being in a car accident. LeBron James ran over 18,000 people.

The Simmons family heirloom of living and dying for your favorite team - Grantland
 
OH NO...Harden off the bench is VERY big....offensively. Not so much defensively...as compared to Miller, Battier and Anthony off the bench.

You saw "mines"..show me "yours"? Where do you disagree?
1. Ibaka over a diminished Bosh. Blocks by Serge will be a big factor, and Bosh won't get uncontested 3-point attempts over the young Thunder defenders.
2. Brooks over Spo. OKC came through the playoffs the hard way, through teams that represent 10 of the last 13 NBA champions. Brooks has kept the team focused on the task at hand, and made very successful defense adjustments.
 
i can tell you that if lebron keeps putting up numbers like he has this post season in the finals and we lose, the blame will not and should not be placed on him. sadly the haters will still try.
 
1. Ibaka over a diminished Bosh. Blocks by Serge will be a big factor, and Bosh won't get uncontested 3-point attempts over the young Thunder defenders.
2. Brooks over Spo. OKC came through the playoffs the hard way, through teams that represent 10 of the last 13 NBA champions. Brooks has kept the team focused on the task at hand, and made very successful defense adjustments.

What do you mean by "diminished"?

OKC came in the playoffs "the hard way"? You played a depleted Mavs team... A completely out of sync and dysfunctional Lakers team and a team that proved for the 6th year in a row(and 7 of the last 8 years)....having the best record in the regular season means absolutely nothing. Playoffs are playoffs. There is no "easy way or hard way".

OK...I got your "version"....I will agree to disagree.
 
i can tell you that if lebron keeps putting up numbers like he has this post season in the finals and we lose, the blame will not and should not be placed on him. sadly the haters will still try.

Dwayne Wade was a complete dog in some of those Celtics games, but yet it was James' fault they lost? Ridiculous! I've done a 180 on James since "the decision". If Wade was not on the team I actually wouldn't mind seeing James get a ring.
 
Dwayne Wade was a complete dog in some of those Celtics games, but yet it was James' fault they lost? Ridiculous! I've done a 180 on James since "the decision". If Wade was not on the team I actually wouldn't mind seeing James get a ring.

yeah definitely disappointed with how wade played in some of those games. he needs to leave it all on the court in this series no doubt. and as far as james goes, i really don't get how people still hate this guy two years later over nothing. when you think about it people have been immature about this as lebron was with the way he handled things.
 
i can tell you that if lebron keeps putting up numbers like he has this post season in the finals and we lose, the blame will not and should not be placed on him. sadly the haters will still try.

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What is REALLY interesting is that OKC is the favorite...but IF they lose, no one will really give a crap. They will call them "young, inexperienced"... IF Miami loses, eventhough they are the underdog AND supposedly has an "inferior TEAM".. They WILL be labeled "chokers" ...

Miami will win in 7.
 
What is REALLY interesting is that OKC is the favorite...but IF they lose, no one will really give a crap. They will call them "young, inexperienced"... IF Miami loses, eventhough they are the underdog AND supposedly has an "inferior TEAM".. They WILL be labeled "chokers" ...

Miami will win in 7.
If OKC wins, it will validate the concept that building a TEAM is better than a few superstars banding together, to the detriment of the bench. If Miami wins, the role of the GM will change quickly over the next few years as superstars rush to build coalitions on their own.
 
Heat vs. Thunder- this is the series I was hoping for (and predicted) before the playoffs started....at least before my Celtics when on their unexpected run.

These two teams are so evenly matched it's scary, the only difference I can see is homecourt. That's why I give OKC a SLIGHT edge. Thunder in 7
 
BillD1984 said:
Heat vs. Thunder- this is the series I was hoping for (and predicted) before the playoffs started....at least before my Celtics when on their unexpected run.

These two teams are so evenly matched it's scary, the only difference I can see is homecourt. That's why I give OKC a SLIGHT edge. Thunder in 7

Here is another thing, based on BOTH teams last series, being down oh-2 or down 3-2...really will not mean much.
 
Here is another thing, based on BOTH teams last series, being down oh-2 or down 3-2...really will not mean much.


And also the 2-3-2 format adds another dynamic to this series. IMO, if they split the first two in OKC, that gives Miami a HUGE edge with the next three in South Beach. Conversely, if the Thunder win the first two, now all the pressure is squarely on the Heat as they head back to Miami.

Of course, if the Heat take two in OKC, then it's series over.
 
Heat vs. Thunder- this is the series I was hoping for (and predicted) before the playoffs started....at least before my Celtics when on their unexpected run.

These two teams are so evenly matched it's scary, the only difference I can see is homecourt. That's why I give OKC a SLIGHT edge. Thunder in 7

its a prediction most made when the season began. i'm sure the real NBA fans like yourself are excited about this match-up. i have to get up at 4am for work everyday. this series will be the end of me :eek:
 
And also the 2-3-2 format adds another dynamic to this series. IMO, if they split the first two in OKC, that gives Miami a HUGE edge with the next three in South Beach. Conversely, if the Thunder win the first two, now all the pressure is squarely on the Heat as they head back to Miami.

Of course, if the Heat take two in OKC, then it's series over.

this ^^^^^
 
its a prediction most made when the season began. i'm sure the real NBA fans like yourself are excited about this match-up.


With all due respect to Chicago and San Antonio (the respective #1 seeds), as a neutral fan, Bulls-Spurs wouldn't have done it for me (even with a healthy Derrick Rose). OTOH, THIS matchup has a memorable Finals written all over it! :)
 
With all due respect to Chicago and San Antonio (the respective #1 seeds), as a neutral fan, Bulls-Spurs wouldn't have done it for me (even with a healthy Derrick Rose). OTOH, THIS matchup has a memorable Finals written all over it! :)

one thing i learned this season once and for all is that being the #1 seed isn't that important.
 
one thing i learned this season once and for all is that being the #1 seed isn't that important.
Getting into the playoffs healthy is the most important thing. Injuries to key players took out the Spurs last year, and the Bulls this year.
 

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