MLB 2013 Season

Thank God they have Adrian Gonzalez. He is the reason they are able to be where they are now. The only consistent player and the one that has driven in more tying or go ahead runs than anyone on the team. The only 3 runs they scored today were all driven in by him.
 
Vinny said as Puig walked up to bat "Just a taste of what it will be like in the playoffs". If that is the any indication today then the Dodgers' run in the playoffs will be stunningly brief. What an exciting, electrical moment that turned into "lights out" before you could appreciate that moment.
Don't know why they had and injured Puig pinch hit for a healthy Uribe anyway. He has been one of their most productive hitters of late.
 
What's the breakdown on HFA in the past ten years as far as those two teams making it to the WS?
Not counting WS because they are different leagues and best record does not determine HFA

2012
Round 1 HFA teams won 1 series and lost 3
Round 2 HFA teams won 0 series and lost 2

Worse records head to head won the series 5 to 1



2011
Round 1 HFA teams won 2 and lost 2
Round 2 HFA teams won 1 and lost 1

This season was a tie


2010
Round 1 HFA teams won 2 and lost 2
Round 2 HFA teams won 0 and lost 2

2 to 4 in favor of worse record


2009
Round 1 HFA teams won 4 and lost 0
Round 2 HFA teams won 1 and lost 1

5 to 1 in favor of HFA



2008
Round 1 HFA won 2 and lost 2
Round 2 HFA won 2 and lost 0

4 to 2 in favor of HFA


2007
Round 1 HFA won 3 and lost 1
Round 2 HFA won 1 and lost 1

4 to 2 in favor of HFA

2006
Round 1 HFA teams won 1 and lost 3
Round 2 HFA teams won 0 and lost 2

5 to 1 in favor of worse record team



2005
Round 1 HFA teams won 3 and lost 1
Round 2 HFA teams won 1 and lost 1

4 to 2 in favor of HFA



2004
Round 1 HFA won 2 and lost 2
Round 2 HFA won 1 and lost 1

Tie


2003
Round 1 HFA won 3 and lost 1
Round 2 HFA won 1 and lost 1

4 to 2 HFA

So out of 60 series played it is a statistical tie, 31 series wins for HFA teams and 29 series wins for the team without HFA (only 1 series difference out of 60.)

As far as making it to the WS. I did not look at which seat went, but just comparing round 2 only, the team without HFA has an edge of 12 series to 8, which is much more significant. Meaning at least 12 of 20 times the team without the best record in the second round did not go to the WS.

Just on pure chance alone any team in the first round has a 25% chance of going to the WS since there are 4 of them. I would have to see how many #1 seats made it to the WS. It will have to be statistically more than 25% of the #1 seats going to the WS to show that HFA helps. I'll do that later when I get a chance.

Like I said and like stats have shown over the decades, HFA is not that important in baseball.
 
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Again, I'm not arguing the rest aspect of your argument. IMO, there's valid points on both sides of the argument. I'm talking about your "doesn't matter" if they win or lose comment. Again, it absolutely does!!
Because the statistics prove it doesn't. HFA does not play a major role in baseball. You can believe it all you want, but the facts show otherwise. So, it is not that important to have the best record. It is more important to have a hot and healthy team.
 
Not counting WS because they are different leagues and best record does not determine HFA

2012
Round 1 HFA teams won 1 series and lost 3
Round 2 HFA teams won 0 series and lost 2

Worse records head to head won the series 5 to 1



2011
Round 1 HFA teams won 2 and lost 2
Round 2 HFA teams won 1 and lost 1

This season was a tie


2010
Round 1 HFA teams won 2 and lost 2
Round 2 HFA teams won 0 and lost 2

2 to 4 in favor of worse record


2009
Round 1 HFA teams won 4 and lost 0
Round 2 HFA teams won 1 and lost 1

5 to 1 in favor of HFA



2008
Round 1 HFA won 2 and lost 2
Round 2 HFA won 2 and lost 0

4 to 2 in favor of HFA


2007
Round 1 HFA won 3 and lost 1
Round 2 HFA won 1 and lost 1

4 to 2 in favor of HFA

2006
Round 1 HFA teams won 1 and lost 3
Round 2 HFA teams won 0 and lost 2

5 to 1 in favor of worse record team



2005
Round 1 HFA teams won 3 and lost 1
Round 2 HFA teams won 1 and lost 1

4 to 2 in favor of HFA



2004
Round 1 HFA won 2 and lost 2
Round 2 HFA won 1 and lost 1

Tie


2003
Round 1 HFA won 3 and lost 1
Round 2 HFA won 1 and lost 1

4 to 2 HFA

So out of 54 series played it is a tie, 27 series wins for HFA teams and 27 series wins for the team without HFA.

Like I said and like stats have shown over the decades, HFA is not that important in baseball.

Thank you for going thru that. I have heard that HFA is not what it once meant to a team and this proves it. It is a different era.


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I have been saying it for the longest time that the best teams no longer win championships. It is who is the best/hottest come playoffs.


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Okay let me ask a question: Rest aside, would you rather be playing an elimination game at home or on the road?
 
Okay let me ask a question: Rest aside, would you rather be playing an elimination game at home or on the road?

I shall play Devil's Advocate here... Would you rather have a banged up team entering the playoffs with HFA or a healthier team without it?


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Certainly at home, Bill. But maybe we put too much pressure on achieving it to get there. Just sayin'


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I absolutely agree with that. As we've seen for years now, anything can happen in the postseason (home or away). And you're also right on about the best team not always winning the World Series. I'm just saying, everything being equal, you obviously would want an elimination game at home.
 
I absolutely agree with that. As we've seen for years now, anything can happen in the postseason (home or away). And you're also right on about the best team not always winning the World Series. I'm just saying, everything being equal, you obviously would want an elimination game at home.

Yes yes yes yes and yes!


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I shall play Devil's Advocate here... Would you rather have a banged up team entering the playoffs with HFA or a healthier team without it?


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Without question a healthier team, and that's why I put the caveat in my question.
 
Okay let me ask a question: Rest aside, would you rather be playing an elimination game at home or on the road?

As a fan I rather watch it at home. I am sure most players would rather play at home too because of the atmosphere. That is emotive. But in reality it makes little impact on the outcome.

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Guys, please check my work. I looked up those results and went through it quickly. I could have looked at something wrong.

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Guys, please check my work. I looked up those results and went through it quickly. I could have looked at something wrong.

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No, it's right. At first I thought 2010 was wrong, and was surprised that it wasn't.
 

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