iOS 18, what did you think?

[harshness]

Apple is kind of talking out of both sides of their mouth when they say that the AI is being done entirely on-device -- except when the data is uploaded to the "Private Cloud" for processing elsewhere.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

Apple is kind of talking out of both sides of their mouth when they say that the AI is being done entirely on-device -- except when the data is uploaded to the "Private Cloud" for processing elsewhere.

Not really. it means the data gets uploaded and processed, but is not added to the training database which expands its scope.

No different then when I use the Team version of ChatGPT. None of the documents uploaded go to the full database. It is in its own sandbox.

 

[rvvaquero]

The question now is will AI make us smarter or dumber?

I am leaning towards the later.

I remember the same argument surfacing when portable calculators became popular and then kids were allowed to use them in school. Did I spend all that time memorizing my times tables for nothing?

Did calculators make us smarter? No, quite the opposite. Did they make us more productive? Probably three-fold.

All inventions, discoveries, etc. come with a cost. 150 years ago, people were more resourceful, knew how to produce and prepare their own food, clothing, shelter, etc. However, the loss of those skills to modern methods, has mostly resulted in a more comfortable, if less healthy, lifestyle with much more leisure time.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

I remember the same argument surfacing when portable calculators became popular and then kids were allowed to use them in school. Did I spend all that time memorizing my times tables for nothing?

Did calculators make us smarter? No, quite the opposite. Did they make us more productive? Probably three-fold.

All inventions, discoveries, etc. come with a cost. 150 years ago, people were more resourceful, knew how to produce and prepare their own food, clothing, shelter, etc. However, the loss of those skills to modern methods, has mostly resulted in a more comfortable, if less healthy, lifestyle with much more leisure time.

Agreed about productivity and cost. I can use it to very much improve my productivity. BUT I know how to write. I know how to make arguments. I know how to summarize information. But my students don't have those skills, or have them in limited ways. And are we helping them?

In all honesty, I am glad I am very very close to retiring and the next generation can sort this out.

 

[harshness]

Not really. it means the data gets uploaded and processed, but is not added to the training database which expands its scope.

AI isn't just about raw code. There's also the way in which the queries are formed and what's being asked about. Apple claims that what they do see can't be connected to anyone but I wonder given all the lip-service they gave to integrating your various past experience into your next experiences.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

So far the biggest bug I am having in iOS is notifications are not appearing on the Lock Screen.

To see them you need to unlock and then pull down.

Annoying but if that’s the worst bug I am happy.


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[meStevo]

View: https://www.threads.net/@jacecraftmiller/post/C8FBY8ngix_


Scott Greczkowski um...

Not really. it means the data gets uploaded and processed, but is not added to the training database which expands its scope.

No different then when I use the Team version of ChatGPT. None of the documents uploaded go to the full database. It is in its own sandbox.

Yeah, Apple's own docs on how it all works have been cited as corrections to Musks's tweets. He's running with all of the assumptions most would jump to about this stuff. At work we have our own internal ChatGPT to work with, it's like having a direct report (or 5) depending on the task. Literally conversational interactions with an AI for some tasks (like say, creating and formatting an HTML email template using a specific syntax for variables and stuff - stuff I know how to do but would just take time). This isn't work that is depriving a potential new hire of a job, but rather work I am responsible for and just allows me to get it done and work on other things sooner. Our whole company is going through AI training to leverage AI properly and how to be more productive using it.

Introducing Apple’s On-Device and Server Foundation Models

At the 2024 Worldwide Developers Conference, we introduced Apple Intelligence, a personal intelligence system integrated deeply into…

machinelearning.apple.com

Likely going to pick up an iPad Pro 11" and will probably jump right into iOS 18. Just working on the wife for at least an implicit blessing

 

[TheForce]

Did calculators make us smarter? No, quite the opposite. Did they make us more productive? Probably three-fold.

Depends on how you define smarter. Calculators perform functions in math. They make educated engineers solve engineering problems faster. But they don't make a 5 year old an engineer or mathematician. They make an educated person more productive.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

So far the biggest bug I am having in iOS is notifications are not appearing on the Lock Screen.

To see them you need to unlock and then pull down.

Annoying but if that’s the worst bug I am happy.


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i will admit being tempted to go beta, maybe on one of my ipads.


Just watched the five minutes of Apple Intelligence in 5 minutes. Looks very cool. Is any of it workign in the beta?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_EYoV1kZWk&t=248s

 

[Foxbat]

Give it the Alice in Wonderland quiz about brothers and sisters. I heard that is a big fail in the current generation of LLM AIs.

This Simple Logic Question Stumps Even the Most Advanced AI

A new paper finds that advanced AI language models are terrible at a specificproblem, calling current industry benchmarks into question.

futurism.com

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

There is no AI activated in any of the betas so far. In fact most of the new features announced are not in the betas at the moment.

 

[Foxbat]

iOS 18 was released today, along with iPadOS 18, watchOS 11, tvOS 18, macOS Sequoia 15.0, visionOS 2.0, etc., etc., etc. Also, for those not ready to update to the latest OSes, there are new point releases for covered devices.

 

[klang]

Installed the new OS everywhere yesterday. Don't see a lot that I care about so far. I do like being able to remove the camera shortcut from the lock screen on the phone, I was hitting that by accident frequently. More home screen customization available but I'm accustomed to my current layout.

 

[Foxbat]

I guess I need to as well. I’m trying out the iPhone Mirroring and it’s working. Nice that I can use iPhone Apps from my MacBook without needing to grab the phone off the charger.

 

[b4pjoe]

iOS 18 was released today, along with iPadOS 18, watchOS 11, tvOS 18, macOS Sequoia 15.0, visionOS 2.0, etc., etc., etc. Also, for those not ready to update to the latest OSes, there are new point releases for covered devices.

TVOS 18 sucks in that they either broke the Up Next in the top row or they removed it on purpose. Considering the setting is still in there for Up Next I have to assume they screwed up. Not sure how this can go through all of the beta testing with Up Next working and the final release it is not working. Apple TV just got kicked off of the top row on my Apple TV's.

EDIT: Already a tvOS 18.1 update I am downloading right now that hopefully fixes the Up Next issue.

EDIT 2: The 18.1 update did NOT fix the Up Next Issue.

 

[navychop]

Mine updates to 17.7 tonight

 

[comfortably_numb]

RCS works (kind of). Most of my Android contacts have RCS-capable phones, but my iPhone 15 Pro running iOS 18 doesn't always transmit messages to them in RCS. It sometimes defaults back to SMS. So there are some bugs to be worked out.

 

[klang]

RCS works (kind of). Most of my Android contacts have RCS-capable phones, but my iPhone 15 Pro running iOS 18 doesn't always transmit messages to them in RCS. It sometimes defaults back to SMS. So there are some bugs to be worked out.

I'm seeing a mix of SMS and RCS. It must default back to whichever standard everyone in a group text supports. One on one with a non iPhone I do see RCS. Some of my friends must have really old Android phones.

 

[comfortably_numb]

I'm seeing a mix of SMS and RCS. It must default back to whichever standard everyone in a group text supports. One on one with a non iPhone I do see RCS. Some of my friends must have really old Android phones.

Makes sense, but I only have one-on-one texts open at the moment, no group texts.

 

[harshness]

Some of my friends must have really old Android phones.

RCS support goes back to Android 5.0 (November 2014).

It is probably more likely a carrier issue.