HD-Lite Class Action
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foghorn2 said:
My issue was with this statement:
"You are really good at bringing up HD-Lite every second of the day like an obsessive compulsive disorder, so continue to do so." So what you are saying is that those of us that are concerned and continue to speak out have "obsessive complulsive disorder"? Yes, it is a free country but being insulting and rude is not something to wave your flag over.
DishHD are programming packages while HD is a standard. The DishHD programming paks consist of a variety of SD and HD channels that are being offered to their subscribers. A reasonable person has a reasonable expection that he or she will receive "standards based" High Definition (HD) channels with their paid subscription, and not HD-Lite or your fictitious DishHD standard that lacks any substantive value. OK, what is the advertised resolution of this so-called DishHD? Please feel free to enlighten us!foghorn2 said:
BTW, you may wish to actually read what E* has posted about their DishHD offerings on their website. Heck, they even list the term HDTV (see it for yourself right here):
High-Definition Channels
Showtime HD
Starz HDTV
HBO HD
Animania HD
Family Room HD
GamePlay HD
Discovery HD Theater
Equator HD
National Geographic Channel HD
DISH Network PPV in HD
Film Fest HD
Food Network HD
HDNet Movies
Kung Fu HD
Monsters HD
World Cinema HD
HDNews
Rave HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
NFL Network HD
Rush HD
WorldSport HD
Gallery HD
HDNet
HGTV HD
TNT HD
Treasure HD
Ultra HD
Universal HD
Again, please notice these channels are listed as "High Definition" and do not contain the suffix DishHD (i.e. HBO HD and not HBO DishHD). You are absolutely free to voice your opinion and believe what you wish to believe. However, your tired old "I love HD-Lite" and "Dish Network can do no wrong" rhetoric is growing old, and your statements concerning these issues are baseless, meritless, nonsensical and void of any credibility.
I think better idea just ignore him; also will be good to implement 'ignore list' here - it's well known vB feature.
riffjim4069 said:
Are you guys done with the flamming? However, your tired old "I hate HD-Lite" and "Dish Network does everything wrong" rhetoric is growing old, and your statements concerning these issues are baseless, meritless, nonsensical and void of any credibility
After D* loses this suite. All people who own TV sets that say "HDTV" or "HDTV ready" sets that do not display pure 720p or 1080i shall sue their TV makers and the stores that sell them. That includes the majority of 1280x768, 1366x768 sets out there and all retailers that sell such sets. There are going to be a whole lot of lawsuits
We shall soon see who's opinions are baseless, meritless, nonsensical and void of any credibility very soon and I advise many here to keep on topic and quit flamming the topic. Ignore me if you can't debate the topic.
The Ignore feature has always been available here: Just click on the member's name or avatar and then select "Add ... to Your Ignore List"Smith said:
Warning to everyone: Please stop personal attacks! Do not derail the thread. Discuss the topic, not each other!
Thank you!
Are the content providers also going to be sued if the programs are not shot or filmed in pure 720p or 1080i? This will include all of Voom, your local TV stations that are leasing their digital bandwidth and starving their own HD and the cable companies that re broadsat these and advertise them as HD.
I'm sure the D*, E*, content providers lawyers and broadcasters are reading this board right now and thanking me for explaining the "big picture" for some of you. Don't be surprised when my very own quotres are used in the court proceedings.
I'm sure the D*, E*, content providers lawyers and broadcasters are reading this board right now and thanking me for explaining the "big picture" for some of you. Don't be surprised when my very own quotres are used in the court proceedings.
Not true! Most of 1280x720 and 1366x768 sets are capable of displaying full 720p (1280x720p), so they can be officially called HD. Those TV sets that are not capable of displaying HD, should not be labeled as such, IMHO.foghorn2 said:
Ilya said:Not true! Most of 1280x720 and 1366x768 sets are capable of displaying full 720p (1280x720p), so they can be officially called HD. Those TV sets that are not capable of displaying HD, should not be labeled as such, IMHO.
So 720 lines is minimum for HD?
And downscaled 1080 to 720 lines is fine?
Sorry OF, but there is no such list, ironically for the case but I see "add to your buddy list"Ilya said:
EDIT. Found the feature in user profile window, but current user's menu missed it. Unfortunatelly, the feature doesn't work as suppose to - I still see his posts
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You asked if a 1280x720 set (LCD, DLP, etc.) can be called HD. The answer is Yes.foghorn2 said:
720p (1280x720 Progressive!) and 1080i (1920x1080 Interlaced) are the two accepted HD formats.
If a TV set is capable of displaying at least one of them it has the right to be called HDTV.
So, the majority of TV sets sold today with resolution of 1280x720 and above can be considered True HDTV, because they can display full 720p.
If a TV set cannot display at least one of the above, it is not a real HDTV set.
I know, there are some sets out there that are not capable of displaying even one of the above resolutions (CRTs, for example), while they are advertised as HDTVs.
In my books, it is false advertising!
Everyone is my buudy weather if I agree with them or not.
But does anyone know why they did not go after E* first or at the same time? There would be a whole lot more class members.
Actually it would be nice to see some of you HD-Lite dissenters use your collective energies that is well documented here and go after Dish Network too. Then there will 2 concurrent lawsuits about HD-Lite which will further your cause.
But does anyone know why they did not go after E* first or at the same time? There would be a whole lot more class members.
Actually it would be nice to see some of you HD-Lite dissenters use your collective energies that is well documented here and go after Dish Network too. Then there will 2 concurrent lawsuits about HD-Lite which will further your cause.
The ignore feature is toothless unless it blocks the ignored from being able to view, and thus reply, to your posts (i.e Red UFO, Dragon002, etc.). I'm all in favor of implementing a true Ignore feature and not Ignore-Lite.Ilya said:
Please move any further discussion of the Ignore feature to the SatelliteGuys Operations Center. Thanks!riffjim4069 said:The ignore feature is toothless unless it blocks the ignored from being able to view, and thus reply, to your posts (i.e Red UFO, Dragon002, etc.). I'm all in favor of implementing a true Ignore feature and not Ignore-Lite.
Ilya said:Sorry to say, but your TV set is not capable of displaying HD.
Well, there are thousands of these 1024x768 sets that are labeled as "HD" simply because it did a minimum of 720 lines. And many agree that these sets are HD sets as they were bought and sold as HD sets by manufactures and retail outlets.
My new LCD has 1366x768 so I'm glad it fits your definition of HD
...not flaming, just waiting for you to qualify your statements regarding DishHD by providing the stated resolution of DishHD in quantifiable terms? (i.e. horizontal and vertical lines of resolution). Also, please cite your sources.foghorn2 said:
While DishHD is indeed a trademark, the rest of your statement is simply not true. If you look at the DishHD website, you'll see the standards based HD and HDTV logos displayed all over the page. There is no mentioned of DishHD providing customers with an interior HD viewing experience. IMO, the class action suite filed against D* should be expanded to include E* as a co-defendant. Again, just my opinion...foghorn2 said:
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