ex-Penn State coach Sandusky sentenced to 30 to 60 years in prison

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I agree with this op-ed from the NY Times last week.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/opinion/nocera-penn-states-long-road-back.html

For Penn State to reclaim the moral high ground now, it needs to do five things.

First, it should announce that it will not participate in a postseason bowl game this year, forgoing, potentially, millions of dollars. Second, it must discipline the rioters. A university cannot allow its students to rampage so destructively — and so amorally — without consequences.

Third, it must promise not to use its status as a state institution to shield itself from the inevitable civil lawsuits that will be brought by those who were allegedly abused by Jerry Sandusky, the former Paterno assistant coach at the heart of the scandal. There is, in fact, some ambiguity about whether Penn State can claim that immunity, as Bill Pennington pointed out in The Times this past weekend. But this is not a question that should be fought in court; Penn State should accept the consequences of what happened.

Fourth, Penn State should establish a compensation fund. After the Virginia Tech massacre, that school gave $8 million to survivors and victims’ families, in a fund run by Kenneth Feinberg, the former administrator of the Sept. 11 victim compensation fund. Indeed, Feinberg, who is independent and fair-minded, would be a fine choice to administer a Penn State fund. Sadly, he’s done this before, helping the Diocese of Covington, Ky., distribute $84 million to 252 victims of clergy sexual abuse in 2004. As for where Penn State would get the money, a good place to start would be the $50 million or so in football profits the school is expected to reap this year.

Finally, Penn State should announce that it will cancel the 2012 football season. Yes, that would mean a self-imposed “death penalty,” which hasn’t been seen in big-time college sports since 1987, when the N.C.A.A. instituted a ban on Southern Methodist University’s football team for paying players under the table. Penn State players who still want to play football should be allowed to transfer to another school without having to sit out a year, as current N.C.A.A. rules state; those who stayed would get to keep their scholarships. The coaches who would have to find new jobs? I don’t have much sympathy; anyone who’s been around college athletics knows that there are no secrets in a locker room. The notion that they were all in the dark about Sandusky is, frankly, pretty unlikely.

I particularly think #5 is critical.
 
Hmmmmm...just found out that the NCAA is investigating "lack of institutional control" at Penn State? There is NO WAY that the only people that knew was McQuiry, Sandusky, Paterno and the AD. The fact that AD and the head coach knew constitutes "lack of institutional control".... Mark my words, Penn State is in deep trouble.
Thought you knew this already since friday buddy?lol.... That hasn't changed my mind.still don't think they can do much if anything at all....
 
cosmo_kramer said:
Wooooo, what's the NCAA gonna make them do, vacate wins?? give back scholarships?? :o

But their lack of action has put the school in a bad light. Here is a question, does the "lack of institutional control" HAVE TO consist of cheating? I don't know...
 
But their lack of action has put the school in a bad light. Here is a question, does the "lack of institutional control" HAVE TO consist of cheating? I don't know...
That's not a bad question.I don't think it has to.then again that's just my opinion
 
I like your post but don't see any of that happening.i especially don't see that coming from Penn state because of how they handled this whole situation to begin with

This was what they SHOULD DO -- the NCAA could cancel their season next year FOR THEM if they wanted to. This is partly about the culture of football in the power conferences and really the NCAA should be looking inward about what is best for college athletics in the long run.
 
This was what they SHOULD DO -- the NCAA could cancel their season next year FOR THEM if they wanted to. This is partly about the culture of football in the power conferences and really the NCAA should be looking inward about what is best for college athletics in the long run.
Well that's the thing.will the NCAA make them? Because I highly doubt Penn st will do this out of the goodness of their hearts ;)
 
By the way I don't disagree with the ideas.there are lots of things that should and should've happened
 
Well that's the thing.will the NCAA make them? Because I highly doubt Penn st will do this out of the goodness of their hearts ;)

Of course not. Too much money at stake for them. But if they don't, other schools could refuse to play them in non-conference games. But alas, its not evident to me that there is much of a moral code in the NCAA. Sigh.
 
Well that's the thing.will the NCAA make them? Because I highly doubt Penn st will do this out of the goodness of their hearts ;)

Yeah, good question. I don't even know what NCAA jurisdiction is here. Everything I remember reading about NCAA investigations, sanctions, etc., has pertained to things that will give a school a competitive advantage over another school (i.e. recruiting).

While this is obviously the worst scandal in the history of college football, it is different from the rest.

On the NCAA level I'm not really sure what should happen.


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The NCAA has no business in this. It has nothing to do with the athetic program, so they should butt out and allow law enforcement do its job.
 
The NCAA has no business in this. It has nothing to do with the athetic program, so they should butt out and allow law enforcement do its job.

I think the NCAA has plenty of business in this not about what happens to Paterno or Sandusky, but to the PSU Football program.
 
Do you ever wonder what kind of human would accept the responsibility of defending a monster in the courts of law such as rapists, pedophiles and murderers?

Yeah well Sandusky's defense laywer is himself a pedophile. When he was 49, he impregnated an underage girl. Wow!!
 
Do you ever wonder what kind of human would accept the responsibility of defending a monster in the courts of law such as rapists, pedophiles and murderers?

Yeah well Sandusky's defense laywer is himself a pedophile. When he was 49, he impregnated an underage girl. Wow!!

It is a lawyer's job to try to get his client declared "not guilty." It is the jury's responsibility not to buy into his bull s**t during the trial. Listen,if YOU were on trial,you'd want your lawyer to pull out all the stops to get you off. That's his job. The jurists are the ones who are supposed to see through the BS & say guilty or not guilty. The judge is only a referee.
 
It is a lawyer's job to try to get his client declared "not guilty." It is the jury's responsibility not to buy into his bull s**t during the trial. Listen,if YOU were on trial,you'd want your lawyer to pull out all the stops to get you off. That's his job. The jurists are the ones who are supposed to see through the BS & say guilty or not guilty. The judge is only a referee.

Sorry buy there is a LOT of prosecutorial BS too -- and they hold most of the cards.
 
Sorry buy there is a LOT of prosecutorial BS too -- and they hold most of the cards.

I seriously believe that the defense attorneys & prosecuting attorneys make a wager with each other before each trial on who will win. Then they pull out all of the BS just to see who the jury will believe more. What may be someone's life on the line is just a game to them.
 
I seriously believe that the defense attorneys & prosecuting attorneys make a wager with each other before each trial on who will win. Then they pull out all of the BS just to see who the jury will believe more. What may be someone's life on the line is just a game to them.

The BS is a natural part of the adversarial process. Smoke and mirrors, discredit the other side, generate doubt/remove doubt.
 
Do you ever wonder what kind of human would accept the responsibility of defending a monster in the courts of law such as rapists, pedophiles and murderers?

Yeah well Sandusky's defense laywer is himself a pedophile. When he was 49, he impregnated an underage girl. Wow!!

It is part of the process.
Defending said monster does not mean that the lawyer is a monster in kind.
It is the system we have. I wont attack them for being part of it. We require someone to do it.
 
I think the NCAA has plenty of business in this not about what happens to Paterno or Sandusky, but to the PSU Football program.

Ive posted about this at sonic, but I disagree.
I say go after those involved, but I see no reason to go after the current Penn State football players, and that is what would happen if they shut down the program. They were not there at the time, and they had nothing to do with it.

I do not see any NCAA jurisdiction here.
 
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