ex-Penn State coach Sandusky sentenced to 30 to 60 years in prison
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What ever happened to "I may disagree with what you have to say,but I'll defend to the death your right to say it?"
Franco Harris fired for Joe Paterno comments
Franco Harris fired for Joe Paterno comments - NCAA Football - Sporting News
Franco Harris fired for Joe Paterno comments
Franco Harris fired for Joe Paterno comments - NCAA Football - Sporting News
He can say whatever he wants, but a sponsor has the right to cancel their sponsorship if they don't like what he says. Any different than when Tiger Woods lost all of his sponsors during Tiger-gate?
I'm guessing they also have a right to fire the guy.we have to take the good and the bad when it comes to this freedom we all enjoy.no?
In today's climate,if somebody asks me for my opinion,I'll just reply"What do you want to hear."
stardust3 said:
Read your post..you stated that this cure would prevent this happening... Everyone knows what happens to child molester in jail...that has been known for years... Tell me, has that stopped child molesters from doing what they do? Nope.
As far as Sandusky, it all depends on what can be proved and unfortunately how many witness will testify.
I agree with the overall point that child molesters tend to do what they do...seems like they can't NOT do it.
However, it should be noted that a doctor who studies people who commit sex crimes against both adults and kids was on FAN last night. He said in many cases people who commit sex crimes against children are not put into general prison population.
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That I have read as well...but it is only a matter of time. They ALWAYS gets theres....
WOW....
This goes to show you just how far reaching this scandal is...AND, when it comes to freedom of speech, there is no freedom of repercussions.
Wed Nov 16 09:38am EST
Franco Harris stands by his old coach, and loses his new job
By Matt Hinton
If you're hiring a spokesman for your business in greater Pittsburgh, it's hard to go wrong with Franco Harris: Super Bowl MVP, Hall of Famer, businessman and all-around ambassador for the city. At least, that's what the Meadows Racetrack and Casino was betting on — no pun intended — when it hired Harris and former Pittsburgh Steelers teammate Rocky Bleier last month to "assist the entertainment facility with various outreach activities, charitable events and public appearances," as well as appear in television spots.
It's a safe assumption that it was not betting on the new face of the business publicly sticking up for his old college coach in the wake of the child sex scandal that just rocked his alma mater. From the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review:
Steelers legend and Penn State great Franco Harris blasted Penn State's Board of Trustees for firing Joe Paterno, and promised to support his former coach by visiting him Saturday.[…]
"I feel that the board made a bad decision in letting Joe Paterno go," said Harris, a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. "I'm very disappointed in their decision. I thought they showed no courage, not to back someone who really needed it at the time. They were saying the football program under Joe was at fault.
"They really wouldn't give a reason. They're linking the football program to the scandal and, possibly, the cover up. That's very disturbing to me. ... I think there should be no connection to the football program, only in the case that it happened at the football building with an ex-coach. I'm still trying to find out who gave him access to the building, who signed that contract."
The bottom line for Harris: "If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time." On almost any other occasion over the past 40 years, the rest of Pennsylvania would be standing right beside him. On this occasion, though, that sentiment is not going to be very good for business. From the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:
As a result of this loyalty, the Meadows issued this statement [on Tuesday]:
"In light of the recent developments with Franco Harris regarding Joe Paterno's dismissal, Franco and The Meadows have mutually decided to put their business relationship on hold at this time, while these matters are looked into further."
That's a polite way of saying they fired him for supporting a man accused of effectively sheltering an accused child molester for nearly a decade. If the decision was "mutual," I can only imagine the preceding conversation was a lively one.
If Harris — a star fullback at Penn State for teams that went 40-4 with two undefeated seasons from 1968-71 — is really under the impression that "there should be no connection to the football program," he might want to take some time to read the Pennsylvania attorney general's report on the subject. On at least two occasions — once in 1998, when former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky was the subject of an investigation involving university police, and again in 2002, when Paterno was informed directly by a graduate assistant who said he saw Sandusky raping a 10-year-old boy in a locker room shower — Paterno and other Penn State administrators had reason to at least suspect Sandusky was engaging in violent criminal behavior in the football facilities. Still, Paterno only passed the 2002 charge up the chain to the then-athletic director Tim Curley, and apparently did not follow up with his boss or former colleague.
Franco Harris stands by his old coach, and loses his new job - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF Blog - Yahoo! Sports
This goes to show you just how far reaching this scandal is...AND, when it comes to freedom of speech, there is no freedom of repercussions.
Wed Nov 16 09:38am EST
Franco Harris stands by his old coach, and loses his new job
By Matt Hinton
If you're hiring a spokesman for your business in greater Pittsburgh, it's hard to go wrong with Franco Harris: Super Bowl MVP, Hall of Famer, businessman and all-around ambassador for the city. At least, that's what the Meadows Racetrack and Casino was betting on — no pun intended — when it hired Harris and former Pittsburgh Steelers teammate Rocky Bleier last month to "assist the entertainment facility with various outreach activities, charitable events and public appearances," as well as appear in television spots.
It's a safe assumption that it was not betting on the new face of the business publicly sticking up for his old college coach in the wake of the child sex scandal that just rocked his alma mater. From the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review:
Steelers legend and Penn State great Franco Harris blasted Penn State's Board of Trustees for firing Joe Paterno, and promised to support his former coach by visiting him Saturday.[…]
"I feel that the board made a bad decision in letting Joe Paterno go," said Harris, a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. "I'm very disappointed in their decision. I thought they showed no courage, not to back someone who really needed it at the time. They were saying the football program under Joe was at fault.
"They really wouldn't give a reason. They're linking the football program to the scandal and, possibly, the cover up. That's very disturbing to me. ... I think there should be no connection to the football program, only in the case that it happened at the football building with an ex-coach. I'm still trying to find out who gave him access to the building, who signed that contract."
The bottom line for Harris: "If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time." On almost any other occasion over the past 40 years, the rest of Pennsylvania would be standing right beside him. On this occasion, though, that sentiment is not going to be very good for business. From the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:
As a result of this loyalty, the Meadows issued this statement [on Tuesday]:
"In light of the recent developments with Franco Harris regarding Joe Paterno's dismissal, Franco and The Meadows have mutually decided to put their business relationship on hold at this time, while these matters are looked into further."
That's a polite way of saying they fired him for supporting a man accused of effectively sheltering an accused child molester for nearly a decade. If the decision was "mutual," I can only imagine the preceding conversation was a lively one.
If Harris — a star fullback at Penn State for teams that went 40-4 with two undefeated seasons from 1968-71 — is really under the impression that "there should be no connection to the football program," he might want to take some time to read the Pennsylvania attorney general's report on the subject. On at least two occasions — once in 1998, when former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky was the subject of an investigation involving university police, and again in 2002, when Paterno was informed directly by a graduate assistant who said he saw Sandusky raping a 10-year-old boy in a locker room shower — Paterno and other Penn State administrators had reason to at least suspect Sandusky was engaging in violent criminal behavior in the football facilities. Still, Paterno only passed the 2002 charge up the chain to the then-athletic director Tim Curley, and apparently did not follow up with his boss or former colleague.
Franco Harris stands by his old coach, and loses his new job - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF Blog - Yahoo! Sports
And now this. Sick, sick, sick....
Apparently Jerry Sandusky lived within a "birds-eye-view" of an elementary school playground!!!! WTF?! Sick bastard!!
Apparently Jerry Sandusky lived within a "birds-eye-view" of an elementary school playground!!!! WTF?! Sick bastard!!
HD MM said:you are all MAD!!!!(*in regards to the living in the same house for a lifetime)
I would love to move back to my dads house.
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Hmmmmm...just found out that the NCAA is investigating "lack of institutional control" at Penn State? There is NO WAY that the only people that knew was McQuiry, Sandusky, Paterno and the AD. The fact that AD and the head coach knew constitutes "lack of institutional control".... Mark my words, Penn State is in deep trouble.
Wooooo, what's the NCAA gonna make them do, vacate wins?? give back scholarships??
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