Can AT9 be mounted on a steel pipe?

[ArtWIS]

I have a 3.5" diameter 1/4" wall steel pipe that's concreted in the ground and stands approx. 5' above ground. It originally held a 10 foot BUD dish and now has a D* 3 lnb dish on it. It's rock solid! I don't need the AT9 yet but will when my HD lil's are ready the end of this year or early next year. I would like to get a mpeg4 HD DVR when their ready and would imagine that it would be best for D* to changeover the dish then. Thanks for any replies.

 

[VIPERS-PIT]

AT9 install

The instructions for the AT9 say there needs to be a MIN of 150LBS!!! of cement in the ground, the pole must be min 2 feet in the ground and have a bolt drilled through the pole so it can not turn. It also must be at least 4 feet above ground. I think it said the pole must be 4 inches but I am not sure on that part. cost to have D* installed put this in $75 bucks. Cost to do yourself $30 bucks.

No idea how they plan to mount a 30 LB dish on a pole in WET cement!! I would put the pole in a week before the install.

The only other approved install options are a tripod on the roof lag bolted through the shingles into your rafters (NO WAY) Or lag bolted through your siding into the wall studs. eek: this will DESTROY vinyl siding!!) and they have to put 2 extra braces off the dish onto the studs. Leaving you with 3 MAJOR Leak spots!!!

I made the installer mount mine to my ant mast. then mount the braces to the other legs of the mast. Will post pictures ASAP. Also make sure the installer puts selftappig screws through ALL joints so nothing can move!! I can hang off my dish pole!!

 

[jimisham]

From what I've read on the different forums, you need a pipe that's got a 2 inch outside diameter.
My 3 LNB dish is also setting where a BUD used to be. What I did, was put the 1 5/8' pipe for the 3 LNB down inside the big pipe that was used for the BUD. After making sure it was plumb, I poured sand down the big pipe. It seems to be working. It's been 1 1/2 years now and still solid.
I don't know how I'm going to handle installing a pipe for the 5 LNB dish. I may just put it someplace else and rip out the old concrete and pipe that was used for the BUD.
I understand there's a 2 inch sleeve available that will slip over the 1 5/8 pipe.

 

[HCI]

The instructions for the AT9 say there needs to be a MIN of 150LBS!!! of cement in the ground, the pole must be min 2 feet in the ground and have a bolt drilled through the pole so it can not turn. It also must be at least 4 feet above ground. I think it said the pole must be 4 inches but I am not sure on that part. cost to have D* installed put this in $75 bucks. Cost to do yourself $30 bucks.

No idea how they plan to mount a 30 LB dish on a pole in WET cement!! I would put the pole in a week before the install.

The only other approved install options are a tripod on the roof lag bolted through the shingles into your rafters (NO WAY) Or lag bolted through your siding into the wall studs. eek: this will DESTROY vinyl siding!!) and they have to put 2 extra braces off the dish onto the studs. Leaving you with 3 MAJOR Leak spots!!!

If you do a pole mount right you can put a dish on it in 15 to 20 mins. On my Dway installs I use a 9 foot pole and dig my hole 2.5 feet. I use 12 self tapping screws on the bottom of the pole "3 rows of 4". I use a pole driver to drive it 6 inches in the ground then "this is so it will stable it up some". Then pour half the concrete "quick drying concrete" and water in and mix it, then the other half.

Also a tech should never mount any type of dish to vinyl siding.

I understand there's a 2 inch sleeve available that will slip over the 1 5/8 pipe.

Don't try to use anything to make a smaller pipe bigger to put a bigger dish on.

What is the diameter of the bigger pipe that held the BUD?

 

[dragon002]

The instructions for the AT9 say there needs to be a MIN of 150LBS!!! of cement in the ground, the pole must be min 2 feet in the ground and have a bolt drilled through the pole so it can not turn. It also must be at least 4 feet above ground. I think it said the pole must be 4 inches but I am not sure on that part. cost to have D* installed put this in $75 bucks. Cost to do yourself $30 bucks.

No idea how they plan to mount a 30 LB dish on a pole in WET cement!! I would put the pole in a week before the install.

The only other approved install options are a tripod on the roof lag bolted through the shingles into your rafters (NO WAY) Or lag bolted through your siding into the wall studs. eek: this will DESTROY vinyl siding!!) and they have to put 2 extra braces off the dish onto the studs. Leaving you with 3 MAJOR Leak spots!!!

I made the installer mount mine to my ant mast. then mount the braces to the other legs of the mast. Will post pictures ASAP. Also make sure the installer puts selftappig screws through ALL joints so nothing can move!! I can hang off my dish pole!!

you MADE him? good thing i wasnt at your home.

 

[HCI]

you MADE him? good thing i wasnt at your home.

Thank you.

 

[grydlok]

you MADE him? good thing i wasnt at your home.

I saw that and was ready to respond but chilled.

 

[ArtWIS]

The instructions for the AT9 say there needs to be a MIN of 150LBS!!! of cement in the ground, the pole must be min 2 feet in the ground and have a bolt drilled through the pole so it can not turn. It also must be at least 4 feet above ground. I think it said the pole must be 4 inches but I am not sure on that part. cost to have D* installed put this in $75 bucks. Cost to do yourself $30 bucks.

No idea how they plan to mount a 30 LB dish on a pole in WET cement!! I would put the pole in a week before the install.

The only other approved install options are a tripod on the roof lag bolted through the shingles into your rafters (NO WAY) Or lag bolted through your siding into the wall studs. eek: this will DESTROY vinyl siding!!) and they have to put 2 extra braces off the dish onto the studs. Leaving you with 3 MAJOR Leak spots!!!

I made the installer mount mine to my ant mast. then mount the braces to the other legs of the mast. Will post pictures ASAP. Also make sure the installer puts selftappig screws through ALL joints so nothing can move!! I can hang off my dish pole!!

Thanks for your reply. It's hard to believe that the AT9 can be lag bolted to a roof or sidewall into studs and not to the pipe I have now and described in my original post that has held a 10 foot BUD in 12 straight hours of 60-75 mile per hour winds. The pipe is 3 or more feet down in lots of concrete. The 3 lnb thats on the pipe now is on a mount that came with the dish and slips over the edge of the pipe. It (the 3 lnb) was installed by a install tech not by me. I need to try to find some pictures of the AT9 pipe mount to see how the tech will fasten the dish to the pipe.

I welcome additional comments. Thanks!

 

[dragon002]

there were LOTS of PRIMESTAR dishes on sidewalls and roofs, what is the problem?? PRIMESTAR was a lot bigger and heavier than the at9.

you want a standard pole mount, its $100.00. a 2" steel pipe or wolmanized 4X4 with 160# concrete mix. 2 feet in the earth.

any thing over that CHA $$$$$$ CHING!!

 

[ArtWIS]

there were LOTS of PRIMESTAR dishes on sidewalls and roofs, what is the problem?? PRIMESTAR was a lot bigger and heavier than the at9.

you want a standard pole mount, its $100.00. a 2" steel pipe or wolmanized 4X4 with 160# concrete mix. 2 feet in the earth.

any thing over that CHA $$$$$$ CHING!!

Dragon002 would you take a look at my original post that started this thread and give me your opinion. THANKS, ArtWIS

 

[dragon002]

my opine?

you already have a sturdy mounting base. get a pipe that barely goes over the base pipe , 18 inches long. drill 3 holes in it and tap them for 5/16 fine thread bolts, get a weld shop to top it with a 2" od pipe and aim away.

personally' mine will be 4 feet up on the side wall of my home , centered on the TRUE 2X4 studs (i have an older home)

 

[HCI]

EDIT: I posted the same thing as dragon.

 

[dragon002]

one more thing, now that you did the macho thing, who is burying all this coax, that isnt free, ever!

 

[ArtWIS]

my opine?

you already have a sturdy mounting base. get a pipe that barely goes over the base pipe , 18 inches long. drill 3 holes in it and tap them for 5/16 fine thread bolts, get a weld shop to top it with a 2" od pipe and aim away.

personally' mine will be 4 feet up on the side wall of my home , centered on the TRUE 2X4 studs (i have an older home)

Thanks Dragon002! Now I know I need a 2" mounting pipe at the top but one more quick question, how long should the 2" pipe be. I just want to be able to get it ready for the tech to do his job. I have a friend with a welding shop and I can tap the holes you recommended.
Thanks again, ArtWIS

 

[VIPERS-PIT]

Make Me

you MADE him? good thing i wasnt at your home.

OK he told me his ideas and I said "NO" It is going on the mast were the other 4 dishes have been. I had to sit and read the instructions on getting the signal to him, plus wire the box into my system, so Yes I told him where it was going to go! Its called customer service. If the customer wants it done that way and it can be done (especially if he helps and lets you use his 24 volt drill) then it is the installers job to do as he is asked. I did the wall fishes and ran the wire (that I supplied) and he walked away with 6 7/16 masonry bits that are 18 inches long and have the hole to pull the stinger through with.

He was more than happy!!!!

And I let him smack his truck into my RR ties so he could explain the dent in the company truck and keep his job.

I guess I am not a total prick. Wait maybe I am.

 

[HCI]

Make it 6" to 8" just to have some room to play with.

 

[dragon002]

tate is right, and eric when you said no???....see ya!

 

[ArtWIS]

Make it 6" to 8" just to have some room to play with.

Thanks Tate and Dragon002. I appreciate your help. I have all the info I need now so I guess this thread will go wherever it heads from here.

 

[dragon002]

75 feet foot light towers in a 8X8 foot base ,10 feet in the ground . 16 X 4 decks have stood since 1934. wow and an at9 is going to tear out 160 lbs of concrete 2 feet in the ground , and the pole is 4 feet high! i really wonder how these towers have stood all these years, it is a wonder that joe montana isnt dead, hell this is his home high school field. they should have fell and killed him!:devil:

 

[VIPERS-PIT]

Dragon

Not tiring to be..... But it sounds like we are both glad you weren’t the one out. Believe it or not customers have rights. And if you walk off a job when you are presented with a perfectly acceptable option. Then you won’t have that job every long.

Sorry, been watching your posts for awhile and I thought you were more open to ideas than that. Customers have the final say in what and were you do your work. You are in a service industry. Your job is customer service, not forcing people into letting you damage their houses.