Battlestar Galactica -- Season 4

"No Exit" was really the episode we have been waiting for four years. It pretty much explains EVERYTHING. Okay ... there are a few questions left ... but we are only half way through the season too ... and to be honest, I would hope that every question would not be answered still leaving some mystery and wonder in the Galactica world when it leaves.

I was way off on Ellen too ...

From what I can glean from the clips for next week though ... the 5 are going to be more interested about preserving the 5 versus the cyclons or even the cylon human alliance. I have a feeling this is going to tick off pregnant 6 ( the few extra hormones from pregnancy I am sure is adding to this too ;) ) big time as she will get a view of what her "parents" or creators are capable of ... especially when the 7 (er 6 minus Cavil) idolized the 5 so much.

With Ellen's escape ... this is going to enrage Cavil even more I am sure. I thought his acting was well done in this episode.
 
Ellen's whole escape my have been planned by Cavil. There might be tracking on the raptor. What better way to find the rest of the 5 and make them rebuild ressurrection.
 
Another way to look at it is with all these questions answered so quickly the remaining shows can spend more time focusing on 'current events', so to speak. Also, perhaps the idea is for people to see the remaining shows in the context of all this new information from the start instead of figuring it out as we go along.

Then again, the answers we got for example about the final 5's resurrection raised more about it. Ok a ship in orbit. We probably figured that anyways. So now where is it? Is it still there? If so maybe it was used for Kara? Was it also the ship they used to them back to Kobol? How did they know where the colonies were considering they didnt even have jump drives and likely only primitive sensors? What exactly is in the ship? Was it just for the 5? And how about the constant "this has happened before" refrain. If it is to be taken literally shouldnt that mean there were a lot of survivors from the Earth holocaust that survived the blast and radiation? Maybe its own version of a fleet in search of a home... again? Where are they? Now there are all kinds of new questions about Daniel.

So lots more to learn in the next few weeks.
 
There is also the question as how Kara got the new raptor. Even if she was ressurected using the cylon technology, how did she get a new pristine raptor? It also came back all white which made me think of the whole time travel thing from the first series.
 
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Then again, the answers we got for example about the final 5's resurrection raised more about it. Ok a ship in orbit. We probably figured that anyways. So now where is it? Is it still there? If so maybe it was used for Kara? Was it also the ship they used to them back to Kobol? How did they know where the colonies were considering they didnt even have jump drives and likely only primitive sensors? What exactly is in the ship? Was it just for the 5? And how about the constant "this has happened before" refrain. If it is to be taken literally shouldnt that mean there were a lot of survivors from the Earth holocaust that survived the blast and radiation? Maybe its own version of a fleet in search of a home... again? Where are they? Now there are all kinds of new questions about Daniel.

So lots more to learn in the next few weeks.

There is also the question as how Kara got the new raptor. Even if she was ressurected using the cylon technology, how did she get a new pristine raptor? It also came back all white which made me think of the whole time travel thing from the first series.

Sammy, you are brilliant!

Okay ... we know they had a ship in orbit ... it would not be a far stretch then that perhaps they left the ship there, with a clone to man it. Due to resurrection technology, the clone would live, die, live, die forever. Now enter Starbuck who was brought to Earth via a wormhole (or yet to be determined) and crashes. The individual manning the ship in orbit then takes Starbuck, clones her, makes a new ship, and then sends her back. Knowing that if Starbuck came, there would be more to follow eventually, the ship in orbit bugs out so as to not be caught.
 
My friend called me Sunday and we both spent an hour and 45 minutes dissecting "No Exit" with our DVRs. He had an interesting observation regarding Kara as a possible Daniel: If you listen to Anders as he talks about "Daniel" (around 18:05 left in the episode), it sounds like he says "She was Seven" just before he gets wheeled away to the OR. I tried watching it again, and turned on the CC just to make sure. Well, isn't that interesting; this time I heard it:

Kara: No, no, no. Listen to me. The Seven. Tell me, please. Please tell me.
Sam: Yes... Seven... Seven was the Daniel.
Kara: You're sure about the word?
Sam: Yes. He died. Daniel died. She was Seven.
Kara: Okay, take him.
Sam: I'm sure.

The CC reads "HE WAS SEVEN" and not "SHE", however, so it may be a bit of wishful listening.

So, does anyone else think they hear the same thing?
 
Sounded like "She" to me also...they may have looped the dialogue and not corrected the CC text. Tends to go along with what I said about Ellen saying that John altered Daniel's gentic profile... I'm still thinking Kara is what Daniel became after John got done playing geneticist...
 
I heard SHE the first time around. Maybe HE was originally supposed to be a she, Danielle. And they missed it on the shooting script.
 
The other thing is... If I recall, there are seven Cylon skin jobs that we're introduced to, right? I'm not sure how the names/numbers match up (John/Cavil is #1, #3 is the Deanna, #6 is the Caprica, Boomer/Athena are 8s) and I'm not sure how the other male names & models match up. It makes sense that there would be four male models and 4 female models, don't you think?
 
I am not sure if the 5 were necessarily trying to have an even number of males and females. There were 13 tribes. They just wanted to make 13 models. Because there were 5 already, they made 8 more. If there were only "4", I am sure they would have made 9.
 
My friend called me Sunday and we both spent an hour and 45 minutes dissecting "No Exit" with our DVRs. He had an interesting observation regarding Kara as a possible Daniel: If you listen to Anders as he talks about "Daniel" (around 18:05 left in the episode), it sounds like he says "She was Seven" just before he gets wheeled away to the OR. I tried watching it again, and turned on the CC just to make sure. Well, isn't that interesting; this time I heard it:

Kara: No, no, no. Listen to me. The Seven. Tell me, please. Please tell me.
Sam: Yes... Seven... Seven was the Daniel.
Kara: You're sure about the word?
Sam: Yes. He died. Daniel died. She was Seven.
Kara: Okay, take him.
Sam: I'm sure.

The CC reads "HE WAS SEVEN" and not "SHE", however, so it may be a bit of wishful listening.

So, does anyone else think they hear the same thing?


I'll watch again, but that would help explain PART of the Kara angle. Although not the Viper. Five episodes to go! Lets make them all as good as last week.
 
Kara didn't come back in a Raptor.
It was a Viper.
cool, I've always wondered if these could be nested.
 
When Ellen talks of Daniel she clearly refers to him as a male. He was my favorite.

I think Kara/Viper is something else they will have to explain.
 

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