Anyone Experiencing 129 Issues?

[Doppy]

I have this problem where Error 002 comes up, but the signal doesn't actually go out. I can get rid of the screen by pressing Guide, DVR or any similar button and the picture comes right back. Then when I skip back 10 seconds it plays uninterrupted as if the signal did not go out. I am even getting this error while watching recorded programs off my DVR which makes no sense. So what's the deal here?

Between the locals going out here in NYC two weeks ago, ABC Family going out and the DVR controls being screwed last week, and now this it seems like every week is a different problem with Dish and I'm getting ****ing fed up.

So are people having this same problem? Is this what the OP is having as well?

 

[styxfix]

Doppy,

I'm having the same issues as you, so I'm thinking that it is not a satellite issue (esp. since my signal strength is always good) but a new software issue w/ L512 on my 622. I never had this problem before this software release and it odd that happens on different sat locations, so that is why I'm thinking that is a software glitch.

 

[rich88]

I'm still having the same problem with picture dropping than coming right back on when I press the guide button.

Definitely a software glitch.

I guess, coming soon, L513.

 

[FCom911]

Doppy,

I'm having the same issues as you, so I'm thinking that it is not a satellite issue (esp. since my signal strength is always good) but a new software issue w/ L512 on my 622. I never had this problem before this software release and it odd that happens on different sat locations, so that is why I'm thinking that is a software glitch.

E5 @ 129 has lost about 12 solar panels, in all. This creates issues regarding power consumption; battery charge/depletion cycles. E5 @ 129 is also in a semi-tumble orientation (drift), so excessive fuel is consumed (unplanned, BTW) to maintain E5's 129 geosynchronous orbit. The trouble with E5 @ 129 is clearly precarious and there's no known back-up, presently.

But I wouldn't discount modifications to software, as they are trying everything possible to keep this bird alive. It very well may be 9 to 18 months before a replacement for E5 is actually up and running.

 

[cebbigh]

E5 @ 129 has lost about 12 solar panels, in all. This creates issues regarding power consumption; battery charge/depletion cycles. E5 @ 129 is also in a semi-tumble orientation (drift), so excessive fuel is consumed (unplanned, BTW) to maintain E5's 129 geosynchronous orbit. The trouble with E5 @ 129 is clearly precarious and there's no known back-up, presently.

But I wouldn't discount modifications to software, as they are trying everything possible to keep this bird alive. It very well may be 9 to 18 months before a replacement for E5 is actually up and running.

That's really a sad commentary for those E* customers that cannot get LOS to 61.5. And clearly E* has demonstrated their priorities lie elsewhere.

 

[Skyhi]

I have this problem where Error 002 comes up, but the signal doesn't actually go out. I can get rid of the screen by pressing Guide, DVR or any similar button and the picture comes right back. Then when I skip back 10 seconds it plays uninterrupted as if the signal did not go out. I am even getting this error while watching recorded programs off my DVR which makes no sense. So what's the deal here?

Between the locals going out here in NYC two weeks ago, ABC Family going out and the DVR controls being screwed last week, and now this it seems like every week is a different problem with Dish and I'm getting ****ing fed up.

So are people having this same problem? Is this what the OP is having as well?

i'm having the same issue....its really weird that its happening when im playing something back from the dvr

 

[Nick1Toast]

I am in N.W. Arizona with a 722 an 2 dish 500's. I have not had any problems with 129 recently. One 500 is 110/119 and the other was at 61.5 when I had the old $9.95 HD pack on my old 811. So I guess if 129 starts acting up I can swing back to 61.5 which worked good despite the fairly low look angle. You guys further west may be screwed. But still try a re-aim.

 

[jmjunkin]

My signal on 129 is so bad right now I lost transponder 7 and 27 completely for about 5 minutes. Transponders 6 and 11 are also were low teens at the time. It is clear here in San Antonio. I am getiing a 211 installed this Saturday and I am going to have the tech repeak the dish to see if that helps.

 

[FCom911]

My signal on 129 is so bad right now I lost transponder 7 and 27 completely for about 5 minutes. Transponders 6 and 11 are also were low teens at the time. It is clear here in San Antonio. I am getiing a 211 installed this Saturday and I am going to have the tech repeak the dish to see if that helps.

See if you can get your hands on a pair of hand-radios so you can communicate while the installer tweaks... you call numbers as they adjust skew, etc... you'll end up with sweeter numbers.

 

[jmjunkin]

See if you can get your hands on a pair of hand-radios so you can communicate while the installer tweaks... you call numbers as they adjust skew, etc... you'll end up with sweeter numbers.

I will. Thanks.

 

[vegassatellite]

Weather was pretty bad last day or two here in Phoenix with heavy rains. That may have affected uplinks from DISH's facility in Gilbert, AZ. I don't know if 129's uplinks come from there.

 

[vegassatellite]

See if you can get your hands on a pair of hand-radios so you can communicate while the installer tweaks... you call numbers as they adjust skew, etc... you'll end up with sweeter numbers.

I would be real surprised if the installer is even interested in doing that. Skew should be set before even placing the dish on the mast. Skew is only wrong if the mast is plumb or not set to intended numbers. However, ask installer to peak 129, even at the modest expense of the other birds.

 

[kstuart]

The discussions over at 'Echostar 6 to be moved to 72.7wl', contains very well though out analysis of the present situation, which contains scenarios, and potential solutions, but at the same time, they mention Dish at present, is not in a healthy position.

In the dictionary under "Overanalyzing Every Situation" is your picture !

Such as:

Do I want a glass of water now ? Well, for one thing, water causes increased urination and on the other hand, it does allow increased removal of toxic substances by the kidneys. However, it would cause a 12 ounce decrease in the total amount of water available and I don't want to be personally responsible for decreasing a potentially limited resource...

etc. etc. etc.

PS There is no change in the status or operation of EchoStar 5 at 129, I just checked all my signal strengths and they are the same as they were 6 or 10 months ago. If you do a search, you'll find threads with the same discussions. In late winter, there should be a replacement online for E*5 and that will be the end of the problem.

 

[FCom911]

In the dictionary under "Overanalyzing Every Situation" is your picture ! ...

Kstuart, you love to lambast people. If you don't care for another's comments, why not just ignore them? If you've really nothing to add, other than chastising people, then simply stop. Your fanboy posturing, is really annoying... What ever gratification you seem to derive out of your jabs, isn't amusing. If you think you're cute and/or amusing, you're not. You're simply creating spin, where facts tend to trump your perspective.

You may not be intrigued by what is happening, but many of us are. Read and learn before turning on people. Be factual as opposed to simply throwing things out there, presenting cynical responses.

We all pay for these services, and it's absolutely justifiable to inquire as to what is causing these anomalies... and discussing them.

I want E5 @ 129 to remain alive and healthy, until a replacement is up and running... It's in my fiscal interest, as Dish presents a far more cost effective solution, at present, compared to DirecTV.

You may or may not be impacted, but I, as well as others, are. E5 @ 129 is, without question, experiencing more and more anomalies, in seemingly, more aggressive, increasing re-occurrences. E5 has lost approximately 12 solar panels, two in the last quarter alone, and has depleted more fuel than expected, while maintaining its geosynchronous orbit (running low on fuel), as reported by Dish/Echostar.

I'm an HD Only client... with, I might add, absolutely no line of sight issues, therefor... anomalies are far more evident and questionable to me, as HD Nationals are my bread and butter. I'm experiencing mostly nominal feeds w/119 and 110 (HD programming from HBO, MAX, SHO, STARZ), with the occasional anomaly, here and there, but nothing on the magnitude to what is experienced off of E5 @ 129.

Monday, Dish replaced my 1000 w/a 1000.2. I picked up 6-9 points in the process of off E5 @ 129. My installer appreciated the hand-radio when he was tweaking peak gain off of E5 @ 129. I ended up with a sweeter signal, hopefully subverting some of the anomalies, and ERROR - 002 - LOST SIGNAL.

If, by chance, you haven't read, Echostar Attachment B: http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/servlet/ib.page.FetchAttachment?attachment_key=-147607​

 

[FitzAusTex]

My signal on 129 is so bad right now I lost transponder 7 and 27 completely for about 5 minutes. Transponders 6 and 11 are also were low teens at the time. It is clear here in San Antonio. I am getiing a 211 installed this Saturday and I am going to have the tech repeak the dish to see if that helps.

I know the farther south one goes, the more of a problem 129 is, but I dont think SA is in a major problem area like Brownsville is. Other than the pixelating I'm getting on channels from all three sats (110/119/129) since I got L511/L512, I'm not having any dropouts on 129. I really think a repoint will help you out. I'm in the mid 40s on TPs 6 and 11.

 

[jmjunkin]

I know the farther south one goes, the more of a problem 129 is, but I dont think SA is in a major problem area like Brownsville is. Other than the pixelating I'm getting on channels from all three sats (110/119/129) since I got L511/L512, I'm not having any dropouts on 129. I really think a repoint will help you out. I'm in the mid 40s on TPs 6 and 11.

I hope so because a ton of what I watch is on 129. I almost only watch HD now and most of it is on 129. I will post what happens after my Saturday repoint.

 

[tomcrown1]

I hope someone from DISH is reading this tread and relaize that the signal from 129 is a mjor issue. If the signal gets weaker; it may force me for one to go with DIRECT TV

 

[Jim5506]

Maybe the guy who usually fires the rockets on 129 was on vacation and his sub wasn't quite as good at pong as he is.

 

[tpautler]

I have had many problems with marginal signal strength on 129 and finally called Dish to see if my installation could be improved. Today the tech came out and ended up installing a second dish just to point at 129. He stated that in his opinion, the dish 1000 does not do a good job of pulling all three in and he hasn't had much success with the 1000.2 either. With the added dish, he was able to tweak the 1000 so I have a better 119/110 signal too.

So far there is a big difference. Much improved signal and and no loss of picture. If 129 is deteriating, hope it will be slow cause I look to be good for the time being.

 

[jmjunkin]

Tonite I lost many channels on 129 and there is no weather. It is getting worse. I sure hope a repoint is all I need or I am going to ask for 2 Dishes. If things get much worse and I dont get what I want out of 129 I might be forced to switch to D* also. DISH may not give some of us a choice if they don't address this.