2023-2024 NCAA Football Thread

[Don in CT]

Of course, it will backfire, as will all televised sports not called NFL, and most other forms of entertainment. Streaming doesn't work as a business plan, that is clear.

Rutgers is in the Big 10 because the Big 10 Network, AKA Fox, outsmarted everyone else, which is a pretty common thing Fox does. All of the conference specific networks have an in-market and out-of-market rate. The Big 10 then added Rutgers and Maryland to pick up those markets, even though 99% of people in the NYC DMA, including those who live in New Jersey, could not care less about Rutgers.

Which bring me back to the point. Numbers are nice, but it is not everything. If you think Boston College occupies the same place in the minds of Bostonians as Alabama does in the minds of Birmingham; you need to spend some time in Birmingham. Or just watch Finebaum. Fact is that college football is a creature of the forgotten, fly over, or bluntly red places. While 1% of NYC is a whole lot more than 1% of Birmingham, or Columbus, or Kansas City, or Raleigh, the point is I can get 25 or 30% of those places, contrasted to the 1% in the northeast.

The northeast really doesn’t care about college football. It’s a pro sports region.

 

[Derwin0]

But SMU is closer to the ATLANTIC coast.

They are the most logical of this illogical mess.

more illogical than the Big Ten and Big XII?

 

[Derwin0]

Was hilarious watching Dook take down Clempson last night.

 

[Derwin0]

And now for week 1's entertainment from SEC Shorts and the SEC Roll Call.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4A9H3GG9ls


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_W1QHJE-kY

 

[Jimbo]

Lot of good "Quotes" in the first one, but the Best one is the "Rule" that says there has to be a "Commercial every 90 seconds" .... slowing the game pace down.

 

[Ronnie-]

New coaches poll is out.

1	Georgia	1-0	1,647 (63)
2	Michigan	1-0	1,534 (1)
3	Alabama	1-0	1,515 (2)
4	Ohio State	1-0	1,422
5	Florida State	1-0	1,388
6	USC	2-0	1,283
7	Penn State	1-0	1,216
8	Washington	1-0	1,115
9	Tennessee	1-0	1,099
10	Texas	1-0	957
11	Notre Dame	2-0	950
12	Utah	1-0	924
13	Oregon	1-0	904
14	LSU	0-1	738
15	Kansas State	1-0	630
16	North Carolina	1-0	546
17	Oklahoma	1-0	543
18	Oregon State	1-0	499
19	Wisconsin	1-0	445
20	Ole Miss	1-0	411
21	Clemson	0-1	287
22	Tulane	1-0	255
23	Texas A&M	1-0	236
24	Duke	1-0	222
25	Colorado	1-0	161

 

[Ronnie-]

And the AP​

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AP Top 25​

Rank	Team	Record	Points (No. 1 votes)
1	Georgia	1-0	1,589 (58)
2	Michigan	1-0	1,485 (2)
3	Alabama	1-0	1,424
4	Florida State	1-0	1,384 (3)
5	Ohio State	1-0	1,308
6	USC	2-0	1,255
7	Penn State	1-0	1,212
8	Washington	1-0	1,107
9	Tennessee	1-0	975
10	Notre Dame	2-0	967
11	Texas	1-0	935
12	Utah	1-0	919
13	Oregon	1-0	823
14	LSU	0-1	706
15	Kansas State	1-0	579
16	Oregon State	1-0	558
17	North Carolina	1-0	551
18	Oklahoma	1-0	426
19	Wisconsin	1-0	407
20	Ole Miss	1-0	379
21	Duke	1-0	343
22	Colorado	1-0	269
23	Texas A&M	1-0	267
24	Tulane	1-0	241
25	Clemson	0-1	141

 

[Yespage]

So fixed! Notre Dame and USC have twice the wins of any other college, meaning they are twice as good and should be ranked 1 and 2! The math is incontrovertible. LSU lost by nearly double, and they are just 4 spots below a team with an infinite number more wins?!

 

[Don in CT]

So fixed! Notre Dame and USC have twice the wins of any other college, meaning they are twice as good and should be ranked 1 and 2! The math is incontrovertible. LSU lost by nearly double, and they are just 4 spots below a team with an infinite number more wins?!

It's all a popularity contest.

 

[SamCdbs]

The polls are meaningless. The goal of the season is to, if you are in a "power 5" conference, have less losses, preferably none, than the other teams. Nothing else matters. The polls just give the talking heads something to argue about.

 

[Jimbo]

Polls don't mean much till sometime in Nov / Dec

As mentioned, it just gives people something to talk about.

 

[Derwin0]

Here's a link to this weeks TV Game Schedule:

Week 2 schedule for 2023

Since 2005, compiling NCAA Division I football and men's basketball television schedules. Looking for a game? Check here.

mattsarzsports.com

 

[SamCdbs]

Thanks for the info and the time to find it .....

Can you also put this in the College Football thread, please.

ACC
Signed through 2036. Disney (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNews, ESPNU, ABC, ACC Network, ESPN+ streaming) has rights to all games, except CW has one 12:30 game per week. All games not shown on linear TV will be streamed on ESPN+.

AAC
Signed through 2031. Disney (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNews, ESPNU, ABC, ESPN+ streaming) has rights to all games, except Navy. Disney has the rights to one game per year, plus the Notre Dame game in odd years. CBS (CBS, CBSSN) has the rights to remaining Navy games, including the Air Force and Army games. Minimum 20 games on linear TV per year. All games not shown on linear TV will be streamed on ESPN+. Rumor has Army joining the AAC, and having a rights deal similar to Navy's.

Big 12
Signed through 2030. Disney (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNews, ESPNU, ABC, ESPN+ streaming) and Fox (Fox, FS1, FS2) split the rights. Minimum 32 games on linear Disney channels. Minimum 40 games on linear Fox channels. 25 games must air on ABC, ESPN, Fox, or FS1. Fox and Disney alternate on which gets to pick games. All games not shown on linear TV will be streamed on ESPN+. Championship is on Disney. All games not shown on linear TV will be streamed on ESPN+.

Big 10
Signed through 2029. Fox (Fox, FS1, FS2), CBS (CBS, CBSSN), and Comcast (NBC, USA Network, Peacock streaming) split the rights. Fox has the rights to 32 games, generally Fox OTA game will be at noon. Championship is on Fox in odd numbered years. CBS has the rights to 15 games, generally at 3:30 after the SEC deal expires, whatever it can do this year. Championship will be on CBS in 2024 and 2028. Comcast has the rights to 15 games on NBC, generally at 7 or 8 in the evening; and 8 games on Peacock streaming. 2026 Championship is on NBC. Big 10 Network (which is half owned by Fox) will carry 50 games, each team must appear twice on Big 10 Network.

CUSA
Signed through 2027. CBS (CBS, CBSSN) and Disney (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNews, ESPNU, ABC, ESPN+ streaming) split the rights. CBSSN shows 18 games. Disney shows 8 games. The conference must schedule Thursday night games in October for Disney. All games not on linear TV will be streamed on ESPN+. Championship is on CBSSN. No requirements for any games to be on OTA CBS or ABC.

MAC
Signed through 2026. Disney (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNews, ESPNU, ABC, ESPN+ streaming) owns the rights. Six games must be on ESPN or ESPN2, five games must be on ESPNU. CBSSN subleases six Thursday night games from Disney. All games not on linear TV will be streamed on ESPN+, produced at school’s expense. Championship is on ESPN.

MWC
Signed through 2025. CBS (CBS, CBSSN, Paramount + streaming) and Fox (Fox, FS1, FS2) split the rights. CBS holds the rights to 23 games and gets the first seven picks of games, after which the two alternate. CBS carries Boise State road games. The conference must schedule 5 Friday night games for CBSSN. At least 3 games must be on CBS OTA. Fox holds the rights to 23 games. Fox caries Boise State home games. The conference must schedule 5 Friday night games for FS1 or FS2. Hawaii home games are shown on pay per view cable in Hawaii, but are streamed free to the rest of the country. All games not shown on linear TV will be streamed on MW Network. Championship is on Fox and can be on a Friday night or Saturday.

SEC
Signed through 2033. Disney (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNews, ESPNU, SEC Network, ESPN+ streaming, but not ABC) has the rights to all games, except CBS gets "the best game from the best conference" at 3:30. All games not shown on linear TV will be streamed on ESPN+, every team must be on ESPN+ once a year. Next year the CBS deal expired and ABC joins the deal with Disney thus having all the rights. Starting in 2024, ABC OTA must show a game at 3:30 every week. Championship is on CBS, next year on ABC.

SBC
Signed through 2030. Disney (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNews, ESPNU, ABC, ESPN+ streaming) has the rights to all games. At least 15 games must be on linear TV. All games not shown on linear TV will be streamed on ESPN+. Disney sublicenses up to 10 games to NFL Network, these do not count towards the 15 linear TV games. Championship must be on ABC, ESPN or ESPN2 and on Saturday.

PAC 12
In the last year of its deal, and the last year of its existence. Rights are split between Disney, Fox, and the PAC 12 Network. The Pac 12 broke up because of incompetence in management.

Notre Dame
Comcast (NBC, USA Network, Peacock streaming) has the rights. Comcast can make one game exclusive to Peacock.

Army-Navy
The Army-Navy game is not considered a conference game. Signed through 2027 with CBS. Will be on CBS OTA.

Most all game Saturday game schedules are announced 12 days in advance, with the network groups picking based on results. The best games are going to be on the most popular channels, in most cases.

 

[Derwin0]

This weeks festivities:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPp8uXL1af0


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEKNQdG61ng

 

[Yespage]

SEC breaking out the voodoo dolls early this season to precipitate losses in the B10 and whatever Texas plays in.

Of course, we all know losses don't matter, as long as the right teams lose. That'll be the detriment and benefit of the 8 team playoff. But at least Texas was ranked, in Alabama's favor. The remaining card had the jobbers losing their matches.

 

[Derwin0]

Alabama & Tennessee got some "love" from SEC Shorts this week.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mAhg-AyK_Y

 

[osu1991]

View: https://youtu.be/GgcnNyL9hoc?si=Rytq9F7MHl6WeOlv

 

[Derwin0]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E8YpFxx1bg

 

[Foxbat]

Does OSU drop in the poll after barely getting by Notre Dame? Quite the game, and once again the Irish are their worst enemy playing not to lose as opposed to playing to win.

 

[Jimbo]

Does OSU drop in the poll after barely getting by Notre Dame? Quite the game, and once again the Irish are their worst enemy playing not to lose as opposed to playing to win.

Barely getting by ND ???
Both teams are in the Top 10, it should be a good close game...

Did you Expect them to win handily ?
They have 3 new O Linemen and a QB thats never played a Big College game before, while ND has a QB that has 50 games in.

Fwiw, Polls mean nothing till November when the Committee polls come out...

It does give people something to talk about though ...

Edit:
Buckeyes are #3 and #4 in the 2 main polls this week

2024 College Football Rankings - ESPN

Find the 2024 NCAAF rankings on ESPN, including the Coaches and AP poll for the top 25 NCAAF teams.

www.espn.com