They would want those two to play one another for thier Conferences ... in the Rose would have been perfect.
I haven't looked to see what games are where.
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I haven't looked to see what games are where.
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Not how it works , CFP is like the NFL, once they get the contract done, all they think about is the next one, how to get more money, hence the expanded play offs, ratings are the byproduct of all that.
CFP could put the MAC Champion in there, ESPN would complain, but there is no rebate, but of course they will not do that, because it would affect the next contract.
Right now, they are just getting ready to count the money, Apple, Amazon and Peacock are already making plans, also, will not be 12 years, more like 7, to maximize the next contract.
Also, splitting it up looks likely.
But you’re talking far more teams in a far smaller field of playoff spots.
It’s not comparable imo.
After this year it doesn’t matter as much though.
ESPN still has to sell ads to this season. They want to maximize their return for paying to much. People won’t watch “unknown teams”.
Next year hopefully the committee doesn’t get in the way and the seedings work themselves out.
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And the CFP does not care, what you posted is what ESPN has to consider when they negotiate the next contract, they get the revenue from Advertising, not the CFP.
By the way, ESPN does not want to give it up.
With the Third Quarter numbers, while Cable/Satellite lost 1.7 Million, services like YTTV picked up 1.3 Million, so ESPN only lost 400,000 per sub fees this last quarter.
If that keeps happening, ESPN will be ok in future negotiations with the leagues.
CFP would rather ESPN over pay for the rights as they can saturate the sport more than anyone. Fox and NBC don’t have the reach or nonstop programming that ESPN does.
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Fox is not bidding, they already overspent on the Big Ten Contract.
NBC is thinking either part of the playoffs or the whole thing, do not forget about Peacock, which Comcast is starting to turn into more and more a sports streaming service.
Amazon has more Prime members in the United States than ESPN has subscribers .
Wildcard is Apple, reason why they dropped out of the Sunday Ticket deal, was they wanted more control, will the CFP give it to them with the right amount of Billions.
And, yes, I would prefer ESPN to keep it, specially with their new upcoming streaming service, but it is all about the money.
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They do not have the money, still $44 Billion in debt, cash on hand only $2 Billion, market cap of $27 Billion.
Also getting smacked around from the loss of per sub fees ( about 30 Million subs gone) from all those cable channels due to cord cutting.
Advertising Revenue is in the toilet except for during NFL games ( and some college football).
Amazon, Google and Apple all have over $100 Billion in cash each, can afford it with no problem.
2023 Bowl Games
College Football Playoff
| DATE | GAME / LOC. | MATCHUP | PREDICTION |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jan. 8 | National Championship Houston | Title game | Semifinal winners |
| Jan. 1 | Sugar Bowl New Orleans | Semifinal | (2) Washington vs. (3) Texas |
| Jan. 1 | Rose Bowl Pasadena, Calif. | Semifinal | (1) Michigan vs. (4) Alabama |
New Year's Six bowl games
| DATE | BOWL | TIME (TV) | MATCHUP |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jan. 1 | Fiesta Glendale, Ariz. | 1 p.m. (ESPN) | (8) Oregon vs. (23) Liberty |
| Dec. 30 | Orange Miami Gardens, Fla. | 4 p.m. (ESPN) | (5) Florida State vs. (6) Georgia |
| Dec. 30 | Peach Atlanta, Ga. | Noon (ESPN) | (10) Penn State vs. (11) Ole Miss |
| Dec. 29 | Cotton Arlington, Texas | 8 p.m. (ESPN) | (7) Ohio State vs. (9) Missouri |
Other bowl games
| DATE | BOWL | TIME (TV) | MATCHUP |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jan. 1 | Citrus Orlando, Fla. | 1 p.m. (ABC) | Iowa vs. Tennessee |
| Jan. 1 | ReliaQuest Tampa, Fla. | Noon (ESPN2) | LSU vs. Wisconsin |
| Dec. 30 | Arizona Tucson, Ariz. | 4:30 p.m. | Toledo vs. Wyoming |
| Dec. 30 | Music City Nashville, Tenn. | 2 p.m. (ABC) | Auburn vs. Maryland |
| Dec. 29 | Liberty Memphis, Tenn. | 3:30 p.m. (ESPN) | Iowa State vs. Memphis |
| Dec. 29 | Tony the Tiger El Paso, Texas | 2 p.m. (CBS) | Notre Dame vs. Oregon State |
| Dec. 29 | Gator Jacksonville, Fla. | Noon (ESPN) | Clemson vs. Kentucky |
| Dec. 28 | Alamo San Antonio, Texas | 9:15 p.m. (ESPN) | Oklahoma vs. Arizona |
| Dec. 28 | Pop-Tarts Orlando, Fla. | 5:45 p.m. (ESPN) | Kansas State vs. NC State |
| Dec. 28 | Pinstripe New York, NY | 2:15 p.m. (ESPN) | Miami vs. Rutgers |
| Dec. 28 | Fenway Boston, Mass. | 11 a.m. (ESPN) | Boston College vs. SMU |
| Dec. 27 | Texas Phoenix, Ariz. | 9 p.m. (ESPN) | Oklahoma State vs. Texas A&M |
| Dec. 27 | Holiday San Diego, Calif. | 8 p.m. (FOX) | Louisville vs. USC |
| Dec. 27 | Duke's Mayo Charlotte, N.C. | 5:30 p.m. (ESPN) | North Carolina vs. West Virginia |
| Dec. 27 | Military Annapolis, Mary. | 2 p.m. (ESPN) | Tulane vs. Virginia Tech |
| Dec. 26 | Guaranteed Rate Phoenix, Ariz. | 9 p.m. (ESPN) | Kansas vs. UNLV |
| Dec. 26 | First Responder University Park, Texas | 5:30 p.m. (ESPN) | Texas State vs. Rice |
| Dec. 26 | Quick Lane Detroit, Mich. | 2 p.m. (ESPN) | Minnesota vs. Bowling Green |
| Dec. 23 | Hawai'i Honolulu, Hawaii | 10:30 p.m. (ESPN) | Coastal Carolina vs. San Jose State |
| Dec. 23 | Las Vegas Las Vegas, Nev. | 7:30 p.m. (ABC) | Northwestern vs. Utah |
| Dec. 23 | 68 Ventures Mobile, Ala. | 7 p.m. (ESPN) | South Alabama vs. Eastern Michigan |
| Dec. 23 | Famous Idaho Potato Boise, Idaho | 3:30 p.m. (ESPN) | Utah State vs. Georgia State |
| Dec. 23 | Armed Forces Fort Worth, Texas | 3:30 p.m. (ABC) | James Madison vs. Air Force |
| Dec. 23 | Camellia Montgomery, Ala. | Noon (ESPN) | Arkansas State vs. Northern Illinois |
| Dec. 23 | Birmingham Birmingham, Ala. | Noon (ABC) | Duke vs. Troy |
| Dec. 22 | Gasparilla Tampa, Fla. | 6:30 p.m. (ESPN) | Georgia Tech vs. UCF |
| Dec. 21 | Boca Raton Boca Raton, Fla. | 8 p.m. (ESPN) | Syracuse vs. South Florida |
| Dec. 19 | Frisco Frisco, Texas | 9 p.m. (ESPN) | UTSA vs. Marshall |
| Dec. 18 | Famous Toastery Charlotte, NC | 2:30 p.m. (ESPN) | Western Kentucky vs. Old Dominion |
| Dec. 16 | Independence Shreveport, La. | 9:15 p.m. (ESPN) | Texas Tech vs. Cal |
| Dec. 16 | LA Inglewood, Calif. | 7:30 p.m. (ABC) | Boise State vs. UCLA |
| Dec. 16 | New Mexico Albuquerque, NM | 5:45 p.m. (ESPN) | Fresno State vs. New Mexico State |
| Dec. 16 | Cure Orlando, Fla. | 3:30 p.m. (ABC) | Miami (OH) vs. Appalachian State |
| Dec. 16 | New Orleans New Orleans, La. | 2:15 p.m. (ESPN) | Jacksonville State vs. Louisiana |
| Dec. 16 | Celebration Atlanta, Ga. | Noon (ABC) | Howard vs. Florida A&M |
| Dec. 16 | Myrtle Beach Myrtle Beach, SC | 11 a.m. (ESPN) | Georgia Southern vs. Ohio |
College football bowl game schedule: Dates, times and matchups
The College Football Playoff National Championship is set for Houston on Jan. 8. Here is the complete bowl schedule.
Yet, the ACC Beat the SEC record wise when they played this year.
FSU and Clemson have been carrying the ACC on the football front since the conference expanded and started having a Championship game. Of the 19 ACC Championships the two have combined to win 14 of them, and one of them has appeared in 16 of the 19 games. Beyond that there isn't much consistency in the conference sadly.
I feel for FSU, but I agree with the committee's decision. FSU isn't the same team it was a few weeks ago. Losing their QB, and being down to the 3rd string QB at that really hurt their resume. They're going to get hammered by Georgia whether their backup plays or the third string guy plays. The outcome will be the same. I would wager the same decision would have been made involving other teams.
If Clemson had lost Trevor Lawrence back in 2019 it would have hurt their chances. Chase Brice was a solid backup and won games when Lawrence was out, so they might have survived. But if you took both Lawrence and Brice away they for sure wouldn't been out as well.
I do think the whole SEC being this super powerful conference is over rated though. If you look at it over the same time period since 2009 Alabama is the only consistent program there in reality. Georgia has had a good run as of late, and every now and then you have another program pop up with a good season or two (LSU, Auburn, Florida to name a few). The rest of the conference just doesn't do very much. There are upsets of course and they're competitive, but they don't make national noise.
The last paragraph is exactly what I have been saying about the SEC for years now .... It's Bama and now Georgia as well and 1 other team from year to year that may be good .... but thats it.
Unfortunately, when the sec wins the championship, all the schools celebrate like they won it all.
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