2015 NCAA football discussion thread

[vurbano]

Consider yourself lucky and send thanks to MSU.

Had they played the Buckeyes they would have went down again ... Buckeyes just waited a little too long to get rolling this year.
Right now they would have won it again.

Barrett and Watson are Very similar.

Bama QB is very avg.

KISS THE RING

 

[Jimbo]

KISS THE RING

We got the first one already !

 

[Ronnie-]

We got the first one already !

Really just the next one, bama having won this one is no more valid than any BCS title. Neither are official ncaa titles but both are recognized by the NCAA

 

[Ronnie-]

OSU Now is light years from the team that showed up to play MSU ... We were still bouncing around on the QB, Elliot stood on the sidelines for a good part of the second half (why I have no idea) ... We also had the guy calling the plays still screwing with the O Line, causing plays to come in sporadic.
There were alot of issues then, after that game, all of those issues changed.
Not sure why it took Meyer that long to see what was happening, but it cost us our season.

Sure OSU is better now, but les not get crazy. Even being better now, y'all lost to them then when they had a backup qb. Bama dominated them, completely.

It would have possibly been a good game, but the only head to head comparison we have Bama was far more convincing.

And then there is the Wisconsin game. I see nothing to make me think Bama would have had much trouble with any other top big ten team.

 

[Jimbo]

Really just the next one, bama having won this one is no more valid than any BCS title. Neither are official ncaa titles but both are recognized by the NCAA

We won the 1st Playoff Championship, you won the 2nd ... Who's next ?

Btw, I didn't hear Saban complaining about all the guys going Pro this week ...

 

[Ronnie-]

We won the 1st Playoff Championship, you won the 2nd ... Who's next ?

Btw, I didn't hear Saban complaining about all the guys going Pro this week ...

Yes, osu did win the first of the latest evolution of the procedure to crown the champ. My point was the playoffs are no more valid a championship than the bcs was in the eyes of the NCAA.

 

[Ronnie-]

And saban did complain about the NFL draft grade timeline again , just like last year.

 

[Jimbo]

Sure OSU is better now, but les not get crazy. Even being better now, y'all lost to them then when they had a backup qb. Bama dominated them, completely.

It would have possibly been a good game, but the only head to head comparison we have Bama was far more convincing.

And then there is the Wisconsin game. I see nothing to make me think Bama would have had much trouble with any other top big ten team.

You keep thinking that.

 

[Jimbo]

Yes, osu did win the first of the latest evolution of the procedure to crown the champ. My point was the playoffs are no more valid a championship than the bcs was in the eyes of the NCAA.

Who cares what the NCAA says ... at least we now get to play against one another instead of a bunch of guys just picking 2 teams that they want to see play.

 

[Ronnie-]

Who cares what the NCAA says ... at least we now get to play against one another instead of a bunch of guys just picking 2 teams that they want to see play.

I have said it before, and I will say it again. IMO, the selection process itself was better with the BCS. Two different polls, and what, 8 or 9 computers, compiled together to rank the teams. I would much prefer that and make it top four than the committee, which really is just a bunch of guys (gal) picking the teams that they want to see play. At least before we had two polls that factored in instead of just one from the committee. Then you had the computer rankings that counted an equal part to help lessen any Bias.

It has obviously worked out well for Bama as we were picked both years, but the selection thought process is a total unknown with how it is now.

 

[Ronnie-]

You keep thinking that.

I will.

A thought process backed up by fact.

 

[salsadancer7]

You take Henry out and you are done ....
Henry makes them roll .... they become very one dimensional if he's not there and easy to beat.

Actually, you take those 2 EXCELLENT special teams plays out... Everything else was even accross the board.

 

[Ronnie-]

You take Henry out and you are done ....
Henry makes them roll .... they become very one dimensional if he's not there and easy to beat.

Henry makes them roll this season, as that is the game plan that they usually run, but they have other weapons. With as many #1 recruiting classes that have been brought in over the past several years it would be impossible not to have people in reserve.
If it werent Henry, it would have been Drake (healthy). If not Drake it would have been Damien Harris or Bo Scarbrough.
Wide reciever corps is loaded, it just was not utilized all that often. When it was Ridley was key.
Our supposed QB of the future was a redshirt.
Defense is obviously loaded beyond the starters. I read yesterday that the #1 recruit of the entire 14 class was a third string player as a sophomore on Defense.

So, even without Henry, easy to beat would not be how I would categorize the program.

 

[tigerfan33]

Actually, you take those 2 EXCELLENT special teams plays out... Everything else was even accross the board.

Funny when I say something like this all of the time.
Why not take out every play and make it different.
The reason you can't:
IT'S PART OF THE GAME

 

[Jimbo]

I have said it before, and I will say it again. IMO, the selection process itself was better with the BCS. Two different polls, and what, 8 or 9 computers, compiled together to rank the teams. I would much prefer that and make it top four than the committee, which really is just a bunch of guys (gal) picking the teams that they want to see play. At least before we had two polls that factored in instead of just one from the committee. Then you had the computer rankings that counted an equal part to help lessen any Bias.

It has obviously worked out well for Bama as we were picked both years, but the selection thought process is a total unknown with how it is now.

We really don't know that much about the computer picking either really .... a computer only puts out the info given it, those same people that are inputting the computers can still decide who it chooses.

 

[salsadancer7]

Funny when I say something like this all of the time.
Why not take out every play and make it different.
The reason you can't:
IT'S PART OF THE GAME

You missed my point. My point was that Clemson was a complete team and not a one trick pony as someone suggested. So to suggest that Clemson was only in the game because of one player, is complete bull$#17..to be frank.

 

[Jimbo]

I will.

A thought process backed up by fact.

Same here.

 

[Ronnie-]

Actually, you take those 2 EXCELLENT special teams plays out... Everything else was even accross the board.

And the interception. Those were the three key plays.

We really don't know that much about the computer picking either really .... a computer only puts out the info given it, those same people that are inputting the computers can still decide who it chooses.

And the highest and lowest rankings of those were thrown out, so if one tries to influence it drastically, it is more or less taken care of.
I just liked the three different separated components of that selection process. It allowed for less potential bias IMO.

 

[Jimbo]

Sure OSU is better now, but les not get crazy. Even being better now, y'all lost to them then when they had a backup qb. Bama dominated them, completely.

It would have possibly been a good game, but the only head to head comparison we have Bama was far more convincing.

And then there is the Wisconsin game. I see nothing to make me think Bama would have had much trouble with any other top big ten team.

I remember earlier in the year when Bama looked no where near like Champions ... but they came around nicely and won it all .... why do you think the Buckeyes would be any different ?

 

[Jimbo]

Henry makes them roll this season, as that is the game plan that they usually run, but they have other weapons. With as many #1 recruiting classes that have been brought in over the past several years it would be impossible not to have people in reserve.
If it werent Henry, it would have been Drake (healthy). If not Drake it would have been Damien Harris or Bo Scarbrough.
Wide reciever corps is loaded, it just was not utilized all that often. When it was Ridley was key.
Our supposed QB of the future was a redshirt.
Defense is obviously loaded beyond the starters. I read yesterday that the #1 recruit of the entire 14 class was a third string player as a sophomore on Defense.

So, even without Henry, easy to beat would not be how I would categorize the program.

Sounds much the same in Columbus ... except the Buckeyes are occasionally losing a commit due to not being able to get on the field.

Next year's Buckeyes won't impress anyone 8n the beginning of the season as most of the experience has left .... I heard that it looks like they will only have 6 of the 22 starters back next year.
Oh well, it will take time, they will get there.