2011 AL Central Thread

Oops 3 more double plays tonight and 5 of the 7 innings with runners in scoring position. 1 run. Fabulous.

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DetFan said:
Oh yea and let's fire the pitching coach because these idiots can't pitch. How about looking at the real problems on this team and in this organization.

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I agree with many of the points you've made...it's time to replace the leadership team - past due. Another embarrassing display last night of a soft team once again underperforming as noted by all the runners left on base in scoring position. Some teams, like SF, get the most wins out of their talent...we get the least. Leyland and crew must go.

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I say bring in Jim Riggleman after the All-Star break (before we self-destruct yet again) and let him straighten 'em out. I think we need a healthy dose of feat and urgency in the clubhouse.

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Windians do it again!!! This time in heroic, come from behind fashion to trump the Yankees!!! And I was at the game to take it all it. Happy 4th to one and all!!

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Guillen is a has been and never will be again. anyone waiting on him is just stupid.
Raburn and inge are what they are. Back ups. To call Inge the best is ridiculous. So he can play a little defense nothing that impressive especially hitting .200. I prefer Kelley playing 3rd Inge being gone. you notice we won all those games with Inge on the do right?

Raburn has to be gone. As for playing 2nd worth should have that job period. He's a way better hitter than raburn and well, defense. No contest. Magglio? Come on man. No more steroids. The biggest waste of money since dontrelle. What's this team hitting RISP? That's all I care about.

So there's 3 guys in the lineup that shouldn't be.
Who i play? wells, Kelley, and worth. That makes the lineup much better. Then you try to go get a bat or another arm. Your blinded by something. That article nailed everything about Leyland and this organization that I hate. You don't have to like it. I didn't post it for you only.

Leyland and dombrowski are what they are. The game has passed Leyland by. Dombrowski. Cannot draft worth a crap. He made one stellar trade, what trade sent jurrgens tooth Braves? I could not believe they fealty that guy. Minor league system is a mess.

Take this team we are playing tonight. Speed speed speed. That's certainly what has us down 4-1 tonight. Manufacturing runs with people that Dan actually do it. There's a novel idea. And who do they have big names? Nope. I love my tigers I just hate this current setup and the people running it.

Carry on

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Interesting .....
YOUR the one that brought up waiting for Gillen, not me. Though he's still a better 2B than anyone here now.

Another interesting point you questioned ..... RISP, what is it ? .285 the 3rd BEST in the majors. they mentioned it the other night.

Sure, you could play Worth, Kelly and Wells, but you'd look much like '03 when you have NO ONE with any MLB experience, they too hit UNDER .250, how is THAT better ?

You DID post it for ME when you put MY NAME in it.

Yup, the Jurjinn's trade was the WRONG one and I felt that way from day 1 ....

Look at who he got rid of ...many many players that went on to NOTHING in the majors or less.

We HAVE Cabrera, Martinez and Peralta all GOOD trades.. with the exception of Willis having to come over.

How can you be a FAN and ALWAYS beee negative ?

BTW, you never answered my previous question ..... WHO is AVAILABLE to MANAGE that would be a IMPACT maker manager ?
What other players are out there and available that would make the Tigers substantially better .... sure it's easy to say we should have this guy or that guy, but making a trade for said player is quite different.
 
I say bring in Jim Riggleman after the All-Star break (before we self-destruct yet again) and let him straighten 'em out. I think we need a healthy dose of feat and urgency in the clubhouse.

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Riggleman ?
What has he done that make him better than anyone else ?
 
Hey Ice,
You can have your former pitching coach Knapp back, were done with him.
His mission when he got here was to get the Tigers pitchers to throw strikes, I don't think he achieved his mission over the last several years.
 
Jimbo said:
Hey Ice,
You can have your former pitching coach Knapp back, were done with him.
His mission when he got here was to get the Tigers pitchers to throw strikes, I don't think he achieved his mission over the last several years.

He wasn't a pitching coach.
 
So Inge and Rayburn are better options than Kelley and worth? You think guillen is going to be the answer? Oh wait were getting Reyes. I don't know who's out there to manage. I'd prefer a young forward thinking Guy not this old school crap that doesn't work today. As for who's out there? Nobody I'd pay the prices it'll take yo get them. Which goes back to my problem with the way this.team drafts bats. Again tonight. Chance after chance and nothing. The reason the risp is high is because of June. April and may sucked. July is starting.out like April. You don't get to doubt me being a fan. I'm negative on how this org. Is run. How the players play. Soft. How the manager manages. I've never been a.leyland fan. Not now.not ever no matter where he's been. This stuff makes me less of.a fan than you? My original post want to.you it was a quite from a blog that I 100 percent agree with. I wasn't expecting you to be a fan of it but I certainly didn't post it field you only.
 
So Inge and Rayburn are better options than Kelley and worth? You think guillen is going to be the answer? Oh wait were getting Reyes. I don't know who's out there to manage. I'd prefer a young forward thinking Guy not this old school crap that doesn't work today. As for who's out there? Nobody I'd pay the prices it'll take yo get them. Which goes back to my problem with the way this.team drafts bats. Again tonight. Chance after chance and nothing. The reason the risp is high is because of June. April and may sucked. July is starting.out like April. You don't get to doubt me being a fan. I'm negative on how this org. Is run. How the players play. Soft. How the manager manages. I've never been a.leyland fan. Not now.not ever no matter where he's been. This stuff makes me less of.a fan than you? My original post want to.you it was a quite from a blog that I 100 percent agree with. I wasn't expecting you to be a fan of it but I certainly didn't post it field you only.

Quit twisting my words and start looking at what I posted.

I have said for 2-3 years that Raburn should be gone.
Was not happy when Inge was resigned, but we had no one better.
Btw, what are Worth and Kelly hitting ? One is back in the Minors and the other , Kelly MAY be OK, but hitting what .250 ? actually .241 .... I prefer they go out and get someone that can hit and play a decent 3B.

You SEEM to think that I made this team ....
I NEVER said that Guillen was the answer, I'm shocked that he's even ON the team at this point, but I bet he can hit and play better D than Raburn has.

You POSTED MY NAME in the article, how was I suppose to look at it ?

I am FROM the Toledo area, I see ALL the guys that are now players you would rather have playing, they play in my back yard.
Leeland is also from right down the road.

I saw Verlander pitch here, Zumaya as well, Kirby Puckett as well and many others.
Inge was here, better then than now. Granderson was here and was a hit, big time.
Plenty of others that we thought would make it that didn't turn out when they made the bigs.
Raburn was here, he was decent back then and if he starts hitting, unfortunately the Tigers fans will accept him again and thew Tigers are tied to him because of his contract, however he DOES have a minor assignment available.
Maybe they will send him down, we can hope.
 

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