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YAY! This interleague crap is over
Bert got off his pitch count thing and brought up some good points
-he doesnt like interleague "It has served it purpose"
-he doesnt like the unbalanced schedule
-he doesnt like that the winner of the ASG gets home field
and I agree 1000%
Bert got off his pitch count thing and brought up some good points
-he doesnt like interleague "It has served it purpose"
-he doesnt like the unbalanced schedule
-he doesnt like that the winner of the ASG gets home field
and I agree 1000%
Interleague is not going away, makes too much $$. As long as there are significant increases in attendence, it will stay. I actually like it. Unbalanced schedule also staying because of $$. Cross country travel, east coast teams playing @ 2 AM back home, etc mean that this schedule stays. You should have play the team in your own division more. I totally agree about the All-Star game. As long as there is interleague play, the league that wins the most interleague games should have HFA.
Nice to see the Tigers win on TV this afternoon because they certainly didn't win the two games I attended. Perhaps I'm a jinks? Regardless, I live inter-league play but we sure got the short end of the stick this year.
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FINALLY, someone who see's it how I've seen it for 3 years. Even more refreshing, a reporter not kissing this organizations ass.
By Bill Simonson | The Huge Show
Thanks you, Brandon Inge. Your two-run triple in the eighth inning Sunday helped save the Detroit Tigers from getting swept by the San Francisco Giants.
I have baseball scientists at NASA working to figure out how Ryan Raburn gets to start more games than the big bats in the Tigers' lineup.
I also have baseball doctors trying to examine Detroit manager Jim Leyland’s brain to figure out how he can pinch hit for Brennan Boesch on Sunday after he had homered and doubled in the game.
I guess Jimbo just wanted to give him some rest after he ran around the bases so much.
After Sunday's win, which included the usual boneheaded Leyland lineup, Detroit only is a half-game out of first place in the American League Central.
And this after some of worst pitching performances in Tigers history in the past week. And after losing three out of their past four series, including the past two at home. It shows how weak the AL Central is.
Why Leyland doesn’t ride his hottest nine hitters every game is why this team is a half-game out rather than six games up.
The hell week Tigers fans just witnessed doesn’t create as much anxiety if you have that cushion.
Leyland always has managed for tomorrow and that is why his teams always have second-half problems and have a tough time being consistent.
How he can’t see who his best nine players are shows senility may be knocking on his door. His stubborn, old-man act gets old when fans watch the lineup cards he turns in most nights.
Leyland back to his old tricks
Is there some reason Leyland still is not playing his best lineup every day?
Leyland said he would play the players that give him the best chance to win. That is what got them back in this pennant race.
Once they were back in it, Leyland went back to his old tricks and finds room for Raburn again and sits Peralta.
Raburn is not an every day major leaguer. He is a role player and nothing more. Leyland’s continued love affair with Raburn borders on psychotic behavior.
When he plays Raburn more than his stars, it validates why Leyland is only an average major league manager.
The old man tries to tell us other players need rest, but not Raburn? The guy plays second base like he has no glove on. His swing right now is one big hit a week sandwiched around a .200 average.
Thankfully, Carlos Guillen is almost ready and he can send Raburn to the bench for good. Guillen will be a huge boost to the lineup if Leyland doesn’t platoon him with his boy Raburn.
Pitchers need help
If the starting pitching doesn’t get well in a hurry, the Tigers' annual second-half freefall already may be under way.
We can complain all we want about Leyland’s lineup cards but if the starters keep pitching batting practice like they have in the early innings, Detroit will be out of the race in two weeks.
It was a huge relief to see Rick Porcello battle Sunday and keep the team in the game until it could rally for the win.
Max Scherzer, Brad Penny and now Charlie Furbush need to start dealing this week on an important road trip before the All-Star break.
The starting pitching kept the Tigers in the AL Central race in the first half. Now the pitchers need to keep the rest of the team in the game.
Get the Tigers on track
This is why playing your best nine right now is so important.
Give your team a chance to win every time out. Try to have the best team in the division, not the most rested when your 10 games out in August.
I do worship the Tigers. I long for them to be world champions again. I grew up with them and still love them more than any team in my life.
I find a way to tune them in on the radio or on TV every time they play. Six months out of every year they are a part of my life. I live and breathe them.
This is why Leyland drives me nuts. I can’t stand the way he manages a season.
Outside of the incredible playoff run in 2006 -- which still bothers me because the Tigers were a better team than the St. Louis Cardinals -- Leyland has done nothing to make the Tigers a better team at the end of any year since he has been in Detroit.
With the All-Star talent the Tigers have, they should be six games up in the division instead of a half-game back.
Let’s get the starting pitching back on track and play the best nine the Tigers clubhouse offers each game and see what this team can do in the second half.
By Bill Simonson | The Huge Show
Thanks you, Brandon Inge. Your two-run triple in the eighth inning Sunday helped save the Detroit Tigers from getting swept by the San Francisco Giants.
I have baseball scientists at NASA working to figure out how Ryan Raburn gets to start more games than the big bats in the Tigers' lineup.
I also have baseball doctors trying to examine Detroit manager Jim Leyland’s brain to figure out how he can pinch hit for Brennan Boesch on Sunday after he had homered and doubled in the game.
I guess Jimbo just wanted to give him some rest after he ran around the bases so much.
After Sunday's win, which included the usual boneheaded Leyland lineup, Detroit only is a half-game out of first place in the American League Central.
And this after some of worst pitching performances in Tigers history in the past week. And after losing three out of their past four series, including the past two at home. It shows how weak the AL Central is.
Why Leyland doesn’t ride his hottest nine hitters every game is why this team is a half-game out rather than six games up.
The hell week Tigers fans just witnessed doesn’t create as much anxiety if you have that cushion.
Leyland always has managed for tomorrow and that is why his teams always have second-half problems and have a tough time being consistent.
How he can’t see who his best nine players are shows senility may be knocking on his door. His stubborn, old-man act gets old when fans watch the lineup cards he turns in most nights.
Leyland back to his old tricks
Is there some reason Leyland still is not playing his best lineup every day?
Leyland said he would play the players that give him the best chance to win. That is what got them back in this pennant race.
Once they were back in it, Leyland went back to his old tricks and finds room for Raburn again and sits Peralta.
Raburn is not an every day major leaguer. He is a role player and nothing more. Leyland’s continued love affair with Raburn borders on psychotic behavior.
When he plays Raburn more than his stars, it validates why Leyland is only an average major league manager.
The old man tries to tell us other players need rest, but not Raburn? The guy plays second base like he has no glove on. His swing right now is one big hit a week sandwiched around a .200 average.
Thankfully, Carlos Guillen is almost ready and he can send Raburn to the bench for good. Guillen will be a huge boost to the lineup if Leyland doesn’t platoon him with his boy Raburn.
Pitchers need help
If the starting pitching doesn’t get well in a hurry, the Tigers' annual second-half freefall already may be under way.
We can complain all we want about Leyland’s lineup cards but if the starters keep pitching batting practice like they have in the early innings, Detroit will be out of the race in two weeks.
It was a huge relief to see Rick Porcello battle Sunday and keep the team in the game until it could rally for the win.
Max Scherzer, Brad Penny and now Charlie Furbush need to start dealing this week on an important road trip before the All-Star break.
The starting pitching kept the Tigers in the AL Central race in the first half. Now the pitchers need to keep the rest of the team in the game.
Get the Tigers on track
This is why playing your best nine right now is so important.
Give your team a chance to win every time out. Try to have the best team in the division, not the most rested when your 10 games out in August.
I do worship the Tigers. I long for them to be world champions again. I grew up with them and still love them more than any team in my life.
I find a way to tune them in on the radio or on TV every time they play. Six months out of every year they are a part of my life. I live and breathe them.
This is why Leyland drives me nuts. I can’t stand the way he manages a season.
Outside of the incredible playoff run in 2006 -- which still bothers me because the Tigers were a better team than the St. Louis Cardinals -- Leyland has done nothing to make the Tigers a better team at the end of any year since he has been in Detroit.
With the All-Star talent the Tigers have, they should be six games up in the division instead of a half-game back.
Let’s get the starting pitching back on track and play the best nine the Tigers clubhouse offers each game and see what this team can do in the second half.
I dont mind playing your same division more but seriously....as a Twins fan I dont like seeing the Twins play the Royals or Indians 19 times a year as example yet other teams we only see 6 times all year. Hell last year the Twins played the Brewers more games (7) than the Yankees (6)
best record should get HFA
Just checked, they only played the Brewers 6 games in 2010, went 2-4. No teams play more than 6 games against an interleague opponent and they only play 6 against their "rival".
Winner!!! It couldn't be that hard to reward the team with the best regular season record with HFA.
point being why play a team in the other league the same amount of times as a team in your own league?
dang forgot the Twins are on this afternoon...figured it would be a night game with fireworks...but alas no 
Tigers flying out west to play the Angels this evening in late game. Too bad I'll be fast asleep. Go Tigers!
Are you KIDDING ME ?
Peralta has had what 2 days off all year and your bitching ....
IF/When Guillen gets back, he BETTER hit, he too couldn't hit his weight when he left. Also remember they get yelled at for being OLD as well. Guillen will take over the starting role in a position he doesn't like/want and is what 35 and counting.
Curious, what is the BEST line up for them according to YOU ?
FWIW, I've called for Raburn to not even make the team in ST.
Also, who else is available to manage that would make you happy ?
Line up:
1. CF: Jackson ... he's the best they have and no one that can play the outfield the way he can ... IF he gets his bat straighten up soon, the Tigers will be gaining
on everyone else ... as goes Jackson so goes the Tigers Offense.
2. Guillen eventually, Raburn currently, Raburn should be out of baseball, can't hit this year, team is hoping for his hot HR streak that comes each year, I'm tired of waiting on it, also Raburn is a VERY POOR defender in ANY position he plays, he'll make the occasional great play, like the other night, but far more poor plays.
3. LF: Brennen Boesch, has been remarkable after struggling badly the second half of the year last year ... I don't see a repeat of last year.
4. 1B: Miguel Cabrera, this is a no brainer and had Gonzalas not been traded to the AL, would be the starter in the ASG. Allso no signs of his off season stupidity.
He become a VERY good DEFENSIVE player at 1B and hitting about .330.
5. DH: Victor Martinez, a GREAT pick up by Dombrowski, hitting .330 and giving Cabrera protection, teams are actually pitching to Cabrera as they don't want to deal with Martinez, a possible All Star choice with the extra man selection.
6. RF: Ordonez, currently anyways, needs to get his avg. up, but on the upswing after being on the DL most of the year.
7. C: Alex Avila, a VERY BIG surprise, couldn't hit his weight last year, tremendous improvement, playing well behind the plate too, hitting around .300, after last year I NEVER saw this coming.
8. SS: Jhonney Peralta, another guy that is playing better than I expected, Cleveland had no use for ... he has pretty much solidified the SS position for the time being.
9. 3B: Brandon Inge, if he couldn't pick it the best in the league, he wouldn't be here, he too can't hit his weight.
As a team, I think you can get by with 1 poor hitting player, but this team has a lot of them surrounded by some VERY good professional hitters.
Raburn, Inge and Jackson are currently hitting much worse than they need to be.
Jackson will survive as I think he'll come out of it, eventually, he needs to hit .280 at least.
INGE and RABURN 2 players that need to hit if the 1 poor hitter is acceptable.
Professional hitters:
Cabrera, Martinez and potentially GUILLEN.
Starting pitchers: They have what they expected, Verlanders a STUD ... not what many here were saying when he was 1-2 to start the year.
Scherzer needs to be more consistant, I think he'll be fine.
Porcello is the wild card, could be GREAT, or mediocre... need to keep the pitches DOWN.
Really would help if the team would go back to a 4 man rotation.
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Since I have to get up at 3:00 am and hit the road back to VA at 4:00 am then it may as well be midnight. Anyway, it looks like the Tigers are having Furburger (I can never remember his name) take the mound this evening. I like this kid so far.
Charlie Furbush ... this is his first Major League START from what I can tell.
Need the bats to help out tonight to give him some support.
So far trailing 2-0 in the 3rd.
Jimbo said:
Guillen is a has been and never will be again. anyone waiting on him is just stupid.
Raburn and inge are what they are. Back ups. To call Inge the best is ridiculous. So he can play a little defense nothing that impressive especially hitting .200. I prefer Kelley playing 3rd Inge being gone. you notice we won all those games with Inge on the do right?
Raburn has to be gone. As for playing 2nd worth should have that job period. He's a way better hitter than raburn and well, defense. No contest. Magglio? Come on man. No more steroids. The biggest waste of money since dontrelle. What's this team hitting RISP? That's all I care about.
So there's 3 guys in the lineup that shouldn't be.
Who i play? wells, Kelley, and worth. That makes the lineup much better. Then you try to go get a bat or another arm. Your blinded by something. That article nailed everything about Leyland and this organization that I hate. You don't have to like it. I didn't post it for you only.
Leyland and dombrowski are what they are. The game has passed Leyland by. Dombrowski. Cannot draft worth a crap. He made one stellar trade, what trade sent jurrgens tooth Braves? I could not believe they fealty that guy. Minor league system is a mess.
Take this team we are playing tonight. Speed speed speed. That's certainly what has us down 4-1 tonight. Manufacturing runs with people that Dan actually do it. There's a novel idea. And who do they have big names? Nope. I love my tigers I just hate this current setup and the people running it.
Carry on
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Oh yea and let's fire the pitching coach because these idiots can't pitch. How about looking at the real problems on this team and in this organization.
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