2010-11 NBA Basketball Season

[salsadancer7]

Very true. Neither Miami or the Knicks have beaten Boston this year...

Sandra

We are not talking "this year" when it comes to creating a "rivalry". Over the years, especially during the late 90s early 2000s, both the HEAT and the KNICKS were good and there WAS this rivalry. Because of the dominance by the CELTICS over the last 4-5 years....there is none. In Miami, there is massive hate because of all the NYers that are down here. So the HEAT fans THINK there is rivalry between them, bit truth be told...it has more to do about hatred between NYers and Miamians...than two good teams going after each others.

 

[SandraC]

We are not talking "this year" when it comes to creating a "rivalry". Over the years, especially during the late 90s early 2000s, both the HEAT and the KNICKS were good and there WAS this rivalry. Because of the dominance by the CELTICS over the last 4-5 years....there is none. In Miami, there is massive hate because of all the NYers that are down here. So the HEAT fans THINK there is rivalry between them, bit truth be told...it has more to do about hatred between NYers and Miamians...than two good teams going after each others.

I did not mention Heat/Knicks, that is not a rivalry at all. I specifically said Heat/Celtics because you said in your opinion it cannot be a rivalry until the Heat win a few games.

At least that's what you said about the Knicks/Celtics, so of course that should also apply to Heat/Celtics as well.


Sandra

 

[salsadancer7]

I did not mention Heat/Knicks, that is not a rivalry at all. I specifically said Heat/Celtics because you said in your opinion it cannot be a rivalry until the Heat win a few games.

At least that's what you said about the Knicks/Celtics, so of course that should also apply to Heat/Celtics as well.


Sandra

I stated that the rivlary is ONLY a New Yorker vs. Miamian thing.

 

[SandraC]

I stated that the rivlary is ONLY a New Yorker vs. Miamian thing.

Well, it's not a rivalry whatsoever in New York, and it takes two to make a rivalry.


Sandra

 

[SabresRule]

So according to your criteria the Celtics and Heat are a long way from being a rivalry too.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...


Sandra

And we are all entitled to Wozniak's.

 

[AntAltMike]

Atlanta and Chicago are like Milwaukee in the early 1980s or Cleveland in the early 1990s: they can upset anyone in one series but can't win four series, or even three series, in a row at that level of competition.

Statement game by Celtics: They were missing 21 feet worth of center (or 28 feet, if you count Rasheed Wallace, who is technically under contract), their all-star point guard, and the player they signed (Delonte West) to be the plug-in replacement for him, yet they beat Atlanta decisively on the second night of a back-to-back.

I might have to downgrade my assessment of Atlanta, to a one-and-done. They'd have to play Chicago in the first round to have even a ghost of a chance of advancing to the second round.

 

[salsadancer7]

Well...there was a headline in the NY Post...I think, that had a pic of Lebron drawn as a chicken...calling him a chicken....

...well "cluck you!!!" .....LMAO!

 

[Rey]

Well...there was a headline in the NY Post...I think, that had a pic of Lebron drawn as a chicken...calling him a chicken....

...well "cluck you!!!" .....LMAO!

Que rico! What an ass whoop. D played really well again tonight. The knicks played well the first half but Miami just took over in that second half.

 

[salsadancer7]

Que rico! What an ass whoop. D played really well again tonight. The knicks played well the first half but Miami just took over in that second half.

Yep....I will be at that home game against the MAVS...

 

[Rey]

Yep....I will be at that home game against the MAVS...

Tough schedule coming up for Miami. Can't wait for the 25th.

 

[salsadancer7]

Tough schedule coming up for Miami. Can't wait for the 25th.

It is a tough one....but they are definately on a roll....looking great. Like the team people expected.

 

[AntAltMike]

Word is that Orlando is trying to trade for Gilbert Arenas. Arenas has two years plus another two year player option, so whomever holds that contract is inextricably wedded to him for four seasons at around $20 million per season. While the news reports I have read offered no particulars, the only way it could be done is to trade Vince Carter.The salaries would match and, with Carter being in the last year of his contract, Washington would drop to a 2011-2012 payroll commitment of about $25,000,000, which gives them space for one max contract and then they can even make room for a second one if they jettison a few million in salary somehow. But still, I don't see Washington, DC as a magnet city. It hasn't won since 1978, it isn't glamorous, and all it presently has for a "nucleus" is John Wall.

 

[salsadancer7]

Word is that Orlando is trying to trade for Gilbert Arenas. Arenas has two years plus another two year player option, so whomever holds that contract is inextricably wedded to him for four seasons at around $20 million per season. While the news reports I have read offered no particulars, the only way it could be done is to trade Vince Carter.The salaries would match and, with Carter being in the last year of his contract, Washington would drop to a 2011-2012 payroll commitment of about $25,000,000, which gives them space for one max contract and then they can even make room for a second one if they jettison a few million in salary somehow. But still, I don't see Washington, DC as a magnet city. It hasn't won since 1978, it isn't glamorous, and all it presently has for a "nucleus" is John Wall.

I heard the same. I also read that the KNICKS are "inquiring" about Steve Nash.

EDIT: Nice call and looks like a done deal!

Sources: Magic trade for Gilbert Arenas

ESPN.com news services

The Orlando Magic capped a blockbuster day of wheeling and dealing by trading one franchise cornerstone for another, sending Rashard Lewis to the Washington Wizards for Gilbert Arenas, team sources told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard on Saturday.

That trade followed news of a deal that sent Vince Carter to the Phoenix Suns in a multiplayer deal that returns Hedo Turkoglu to the Magic.

The Magic, losers of five of their last six games, also get Jason Richardson and Earl Clark from the Suns in exchange for Carter, Marcin Gortat, Mickael Pietrus, a 2011 first-round pick and cash considerations, sources said.

The Arenas-Lewis deal doesn't include other pieces, the sources told Broussard.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5932861

I think they traded the wrong guy. Rashard was struggling, but the guy could rebound. ALOT more than Carter.

 

[AntAltMike]

Wierd. I saw that the cap dollar numbers also worked for Lewis, but never considered it a possibility because it didn't seem to help Orlando. I saw Lewis come up big for Orlando several times last year.

It's a hell of a time for Orlando to go into a rebuilding program.

 

[AntAltMike]

I'm still trying to make sense out of a lot of things. The two desirable players who want to move are Carmelo Anthony and Chris Paul. Any team can make itself better by acquiring one or the other. Why in hell is Orlando trying to improve itself by swapping a star for a headcase, Arenas, when their contract obligations are comparable, and why do they now love Turkoglu when they got rid of him a year or so ago? Here is the Basketball-Reference summary of the four team "trade" in which Turkoglu left orlando:

July 9, 2009: As part of a 4-team trade, traded by the Orlando Magic to the Toronto Raptors; the Dallas Mavericks traded Jerry Stackhouse and cash to the Memphis Grizzlies; the Dallas Mavericks traded cash to the Orlando Magic; the Memphis Grizzlies traded Greg Buckner to the Dallas Mavericks; the Toronto Raptors traded Kris Humphries, Nathan Jawai and Shawn Marion to the Dallas Mavericks; the Toronto Raptors traded a 2016 2nd round draft pick to the Memphis Grizzlies; and the Toronto Raptors traded cash to the Orlando Magic.

So all Orlando got back in that multiplayer/milti team transaction was cash. Were they hoping to make a big splash in the 2010 free agent poolwith the cap room that Turkoglu's departure enlarged?

Is Orlando now any closer to getting Carmelo Anthony or Chris Paul? Might they be sending Hedo or Zero in exchange for one of them?

 

[salsadancer7]

Wow, the Wizards are getting every single call tonight against the HEAT. They are flat and the streak is in jepardy.

 

[Rey]

Looks like they're going to lose. And against the freaking wizards

 

[Rey]

Wow what a finish LMAO

 

[salsadancer7]

Wow, the Wizards are getting every single call tonight against the HEAT. They are flat and the streak is in jepardy.

Wow.....down by 5 with less than 18 seconds left and the Wizards WITH the ball...HEAT comes back and win 95-94.....wow.

 

[Lkr]

Wow, the Wizards are getting every single call tonight against the HEAT. They are flat and the streak is in jepardy.

every single call? the last 10 seconds say otherwise