Why don't you give some credit to Orlando? Every game has a winner as well- Orlando, though I didn't pick them to win the series, (I did pick them to win the East Finals), I'm not going to say they were lucky.
2009 NBA Playoffs
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Why don't you give some credit to Orlando? Every game has a winner as well- Orlando, though I didn't pick them to win the series, (I did pick them to win the East Finals), I'm not going to say they were lucky.
A 3-1 lead is NOT 100% safe
A lot of people are going to consider this series over, BUT just because you're up 3-1 does not mean you're home free.
I know some people on here have seen their teams come back.
Bill- your Celtics did it in 1981.
Salsa- the Heat in 1997.
I'm sure others can remember their teams pulling it off.
In the words of Yogi Berra, "it ain't over until it's over."
A lot of people are going to consider this series over, BUT just because you're up 3-1 does not mean you're home free.
I know some people on here have seen their teams come back.
Bill- your Celtics did it in 1981.
Salsa- the Heat in 1997.
I'm sure others can remember their teams pulling it off.
In the words of Yogi Berra, "it ain't over until it's over."
No biggie if Lakers win/lose. But this is what counts down below pal.
KOBE = 3 Rings
LEBRON = ZER0
nuff said
If I'm Cleveland now I'm sending out the goons in Game 5 to pick a fight with Howard and get him T'd up again. The next T is an automatic suspension so if Cleveland can win Game 5 at home, get Howard supended for Game 6, then they have a shot to force a 7th game. Otherwise it's been real.
No biggie if Lakers win/lose. But this is what counts down below pal.
KOBE = 3 Rings
LEBRON = ZER0
nuff said
It's only his sixth year- give him some time.
Some great players took a LOOOONG time to get a ring:
Shaq- eight years
David Robinson- 10 years
Clyde Drexler- 11 years
Julius Erving- seven years
Not everyone can win a ring in two or three years.
Kobe = 0 rings without Shaq.No biggie if Lakers win/lose. But this is what counts down below pal.
KOBE = 3 Rings
LEBRON = ZER0
nuff said
:up:up:up (I wish the SOX could get surgery for Papi too)Kevin Garnett underwent successful knee surgery today at New England Baptist Hospital.
He had the same surgeon that repaired my ruptured tendon in January, so I know he's in good hands!
I picked (and want) Cleveland to win the series, but I'm not going to take a sour grapes reaction and say, "Orlando was lucky, they didn't deserve to win, blah blah blah..."
They played a very good game tonight (they got in that three-point hot streak that made them a powerhouse this year)- I WANTED Cleveland to win, but I thought Orlando did played better in games 3-4.
That doesn't mean it's over, but it is not looking good for one team and good for another.
Here's a mantra to remember- Remember the 1981 Celtics.
They were down 3-1 in the Conference Finals- lost game 1 at home, lost twice on the road- and still won the series.
So, as far as I'm concerned, the series is not over until it's over.
Now is the perfect time to fire up the Animal House speech on nothing being over:
[Youtube]MsmybQKpmTw[/Youtube]
Was it over for the 1981 Celtics? (Ask Bill)
Was it over for the 1995 Rockets?
Was it over for the 1997 Heat? (Ask Salsa)
Was it over for the 2003 Pistons? (Ask Jimbo and Wozniak)
Was it over for the 2006 Suns?
HELL NO!
They played a very good game tonight (they got in that three-point hot streak that made them a powerhouse this year)- I WANTED Cleveland to win, but I thought Orlando did played better in games 3-4.
That doesn't mean it's over, but it is not looking good for one team and good for another.
Here's a mantra to remember- Remember the 1981 Celtics.
They were down 3-1 in the Conference Finals- lost game 1 at home, lost twice on the road- and still won the series.
So, as far as I'm concerned, the series is not over until it's over.
Now is the perfect time to fire up the Animal House speech on nothing being over:
[Youtube]MsmybQKpmTw[/Youtube]
Was it over for the 1981 Celtics? (Ask Bill)
Was it over for the 1995 Rockets?
Was it over for the 1997 Heat? (Ask Salsa)
Was it over for the 2003 Pistons? (Ask Jimbo and Wozniak)
Was it over for the 2006 Suns?
HELL NO!
They need to put bodies on him that can draw fouls and get him on the bench early in the game. I'm not sure the Cavs coach is up to the task.
It's a far longer list of teams for whom it was over. Were it not for Lebron's miracle in Game 2 this series would now be over. The games may be close but close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. Can Lebron get some help for the next 3 games? Doubtful.
It's painful being a Cleveland sports fan. I'm disgusted right now.
I saw the Red Sox come back and beat the Tribe after being down 3-1 in the ALCS a few years back, so I'll keep my glimmer of hope. As it stands tonight (and I'm sure I can speak for most of Cleveland), I'm pretty deflated. Good night.
I saw the Red Sox come back and beat the Tribe after being down 3-1 in the ALCS a few years back, so I'll keep my glimmer of hope. As it stands tonight (and I'm sure I can speak for most of Cleveland), I'm pretty deflated. Good night.
That's what I like- optimism, hope, never giving up.
There's a reason why I am into the Animal House speech on nothing being over yet.
3-1? Daunting, but not impossible.
Hell, I saw it happen already in the Stanley Cup Playoffs and it ALMOST happened in last year's ALCS.
It must just be a fluke then that Orlando has won so many games against the cavs?
Lebron is certainly the best player in the NBA at the momment.. Sad he is not on the best team.
IF that were to happen- a heavy emphasis on IF, because a series is not over until the final buzzer- I would not be ticked off.
While I would love to see Kobe/LeBron- don't get me wrong, starpower is fun- I wouldn't turn off the TV if the opposite were to happen.
This is not like when the Pistons played the Spurs in the 2005 Finals.
That year's conference finals also involved the Heat and Suns- Miami was a fun team with starpower- Shaq and D-Wade (just ask Salsa) while Phoenix, though not heavy on big names, was an incredibly entertaining team with one of the most exciting offensive teams the NBA had seen in years.
Obviously, the sexy matchup would have been Miami/Phoenix- of course, it never happened, and we ended up with the orher one.
Two reasons why I hated that matchup:
1. Their style- it's not the size of the market the team plays in that annoys me (Detroit's a big city), but rather their style. First to 80 points wins with these teams!
2. Uncompetiveness- the series had few close games- that series was littered with blowouts. Just because a series goes seven games doesn't automatically make it a great series (a good example- Heat/Hawks this year)
It's not small-market teams I hate- it's the style of basketball they play. Pistons/Spurs were two teams that played a slow and not-so-fun stlye of basketball- Orlando and Denver can light it up, OTOH.
The war of WILLs...Orlando's vs. Lebron.
The individual WILL is not strong enough against the Magic's WILL. Once again, all this goes back to the "coach of the year". He has made little to NO adjustments which again states the obvious.....he is either too hard headed to make changes OR....ready for this...here ya go....Orlando is just a better all around team than the Cavs....plain and simple.
...denial starts in....5.....4.....3....2....1.......
The Magic has imposed THEIR style of defense and offense on the Cavs and DARED them to adapt....and they have not. Someone here said something to the extent of they being "lucky" to make so many 3s...THAT is there game. 99% of the NBA look for lay-ups when they go on a fast break.....Orlando goes for 3s. THAT is how they play.
The so-called best defensive team in the league....going into the ECF, they were allowing only 78 points a game. In this series, Orlando has scored under 99 points ONCE. They do not have the perimeter defense. The ONLY match-up the Magic are losing is the Lebron match-up....and that was expected.
And finally, Lebron James is the best player in the world....period....not even close. And he will go down as probably the greatest scorer in NBA history. ALOT of it thanks to his power game. He will also go down with the most free throw made and attempted because that guys BARRELS into the lane more than any player I have ever seen....and he will also get more phantom calls than any player in history. Regardless of whether he trips over his feet....like the foul called with .5 seconds left in the game last night...or lowers his shoulders...he will get that call 120% of the time. LOL!! I have seen and have no issues with home town calls...Michael use to get them ALL THE TIME....it is what it is. But I have never seen a player get more calls ON THE ROAD than Lebron....NOT EVEN Michael Jordan got half of the calls Lebron gets ON THE ROAD.
The individual WILL is not strong enough against the Magic's WILL. Once again, all this goes back to the "coach of the year". He has made little to NO adjustments which again states the obvious.....he is either too hard headed to make changes OR....ready for this...here ya go....Orlando is just a better all around team than the Cavs....plain and simple.
...denial starts in....5.....4.....3....2....1.......
The Magic has imposed THEIR style of defense and offense on the Cavs and DARED them to adapt....and they have not. Someone here said something to the extent of they being "lucky" to make so many 3s...THAT is there game. 99% of the NBA look for lay-ups when they go on a fast break.....Orlando goes for 3s. THAT is how they play.
The so-called best defensive team in the league....going into the ECF, they were allowing only 78 points a game. In this series, Orlando has scored under 99 points ONCE. They do not have the perimeter defense. The ONLY match-up the Magic are losing is the Lebron match-up....and that was expected.
And finally, Lebron James is the best player in the world....period....not even close. And he will go down as probably the greatest scorer in NBA history. ALOT of it thanks to his power game. He will also go down with the most free throw made and attempted because that guys BARRELS into the lane more than any player I have ever seen....and he will also get more phantom calls than any player in history. Regardless of whether he trips over his feet....like the foul called with .5 seconds left in the game last night...or lowers his shoulders...he will get that call 120% of the time. LOL!! I have seen and have no issues with home town calls...Michael use to get them ALL THE TIME....it is what it is. But I have never seen a player get more calls ON THE ROAD than Lebron....NOT EVEN Michael Jordan got half of the calls Lebron gets ON THE ROAD.
