2008 Pennant Races

If I told anyone that Brad Lidge, in a bandbox of a ballpark, would have ZERO blown saves, would anyone have believed me?

I think that is a remarkable achievement- I thought that he'd possibly blow one and how the Philly fans would go nuts.

ZERO blown saves for a guy who was such a train wreck for a few years in Houston... I think this is more of a stunning story than K-Rod.
 
UPDATED NL EAST STANDINGS

Philadelphia.......................90-70.....................-
New York...........................88-72.....................2


UPDATED NL WILDCARD STANDINGS

Milwaukee.......................89-71.....................-
New York........................88-72......................1
 
THIS could be one of the ONLY columns I EVER read from Israel Guiterrez:

Florida Marlins relish the chance to close Shea Stadium

Florida Marlins out to spoil Mets' season again

BY ISRAEL GUTIERREZ
igutierrez@MiamiHerald.com

What's this, another chance for the Marlins to knock the New York Mets out of playoffs in the final series of the season? This time potentially hurling the Mets into an emergency rebuilding stage?

This time getting to close Shea Stadium forever as a historic bonus?

That's just too good. It's marvelously mischievous.

It's wonderfully mean-spirited.

It's kick-you-in-the-groin fantastic.

Who needs the playoffs when the Marlins have this opportunity in front of them?

Think Yankee Stadium was quiet when Josh Beckett closed out the World Series in 2003?

Should the Marlins knock the Mets out of playoff contention for the second season in a row, Shea will be stunned so silent you might be able to hear the tears dripping off a 9-year-old's cheek.

Cruel? Depends on your definition. For a spoiler team like the Marlins, cruel and fun are virtually synonymous.

Is it fun kicking a team when it's almost down, completing a beating so thorough that this version of the Mets could wind up buried for good?

DELICIOUS IRONY

Is it fulfilling to turn a celebratory gathering of franchise favorites, as Sunday's finale at Shea will feature, into a funeral?

Is it satisfying to torment a legion of fans in America's best baseball city so that a group of part-time Milwaukee fans get to experience the playoffs?

Yes.

Yes.

Oh, my God, yes!

And you just know it's going to happen, too.

It simply sets up too perfectly.

The Mets began the process Wednesday night, squandering a four-run lead to the Cubs, then leaving nine on base in the seventh, eighth and ninth innings, including four on third base, before losing and falling into a wild-card tie with the Brewers.

RISE AND FALL

Even though the Mets were in fourth place on June 13, 7 ½ games behind the Phillies in the National League East and 6 ½ back in the wild-card race, failing in this dramatic a fashion, this late in the season, in that city, would qualify as another collapse.

It will continue Friday and Saturday, with Chris Volstad and Ricky Nolasco starting for the Marlins. Volstad, 22, and Nolasco, 25, could be providing a preview of what the Mets can expect next season, and potentially for several seasons to come. Next season, the Marlins should feature the deepest collection of starters in the division -- and possibly in all of the National League -- with Josh Johnson, Anibal Sanchez and Andrew Miller likely figuring into that mix.

And who better to close out the series, the Mets and Shea Stadium than Scott Olsen? Unofficially, Olsen still leads the NL in rebellion. Nobody on the Marlins would revel more in shocking the Mets than the player who was infamously stunned by police last season.

And who would the Marlins have to beat to get Olsen that final victory? Johan Santana, the Mets' prize offseason acquisition, who was supposed to make the playoffs a certainty and turn last season's historic collapse into a distant footnote.

Santana, of course, is on a streak of 16 starts without a loss, going 8-0 in that stretch with a 2.26 ERA. The Marlins have struggled all season against left-handed starters. They would be more frightened if it were the Phillies' Jamie Moyer on the mound, but Santana provides a significant fear factor himself.

So what better time for a season's worth of statistical support to be rendered meaningless? Last season, the Marlins ended the Mets with a seven-run first inning against another ace lefty, Tom Glavine.

Then there is the element of front-office contrast, further magnified by a curiously timed decision by Mets brass. New York just offered its general manager, Omar Minaya, a four-year extension for almost getting the Mets to the playoffs with a $137 million payroll (the largest in the National League). Marlins GM Larry Beinfest, meanwhile, keeps plugging along with a team nearly as good at one-sixth the price. In Mets measures, that would be worth a 24-year extension.

Last year, eliminating the Mets gave the Marlins meaning for at least one weekend of a trying 91-loss season.

This year, a repeat offering will be the icing on a season that already felt like six months of dessert. Despite a horrendous August, these Marlins, the ones who were publicly dismissed from playoff consideration the day pitchers and catchers reported, went until the final week of the season before officially being eliminated from playoff contention.

Bringing the Mets, and all of Shea Stadium, down with them will be a different kind of sweet.

Darker. Something in the devil's-food family.

Deliciously cruel

Florida Marlins relish the chance to close Shea Stadium
 
Bill, are you watching the Sox? Boy, the Fenway looks eerie. There's nobody there. It's foggy and rainy and it looks like Francona took a lot of his starters out of there. Who would've thunk it that I would be saying that about YANKEES/REDSOX?
 
Bill, are you watching the Sox? Boy, the Fenway looks eerie. There's nobody there. It's foggy and rainy and it looks like Francona took a lot of his starters out of there. Who would've thunk it that I would be saying that about YANKEES/REDSOX?


I know, it looks like a scene out of a horror movie (score included)! :eek: ;)
 
THIS could be one of the ONLY columns I EVER read from Israel Guiterrez:

Florida Marlins relish the chance to close Shea Stadium

Florida Marlins out to spoil Mets' season again

BY ISRAEL GUTIERREZ
igutierrez@MiamiHerald.com

What's this, another chance for the Marlins to knock the New York Mets out of playoffs in the final series of the season? This time potentially hurling the Mets into an emergency rebuilding stage?

This time getting to close Shea Stadium forever as a historic bonus?

That's just too good. It's marvelously mischievous.

It's wonderfully mean-spirited.

It's kick-you-in-the-groin fantastic.

Who needs the playoffs when the Marlins have this opportunity in front of them?

Think Yankee Stadium was quiet when Josh Beckett closed out the World Series in 2003?

Should the Marlins knock the Mets out of playoff contention for the second season in a row, Shea will be stunned so silent you might be able to hear the tears dripping off a 9-year-old's cheek.

Cruel? Depends on your definition. For a spoiler team like the Marlins, cruel and fun are virtually synonymous.

Is it fun kicking a team when it's almost down, completing a beating so thorough that this version of the Mets could wind up buried for good?

DELICIOUS IRONY

Is it fulfilling to turn a celebratory gathering of franchise favorites, as Sunday's finale at Shea will feature, into a funeral?

Is it satisfying to torment a legion of fans in America's best baseball city so that a group of part-time Milwaukee fans get to experience the playoffs?

Yes.

Yes.

Oh, my God, yes!

And you just know it's going to happen, too.

It simply sets up too perfectly.

The Mets began the process Wednesday night, squandering a four-run lead to the Cubs, then leaving nine on base in the seventh, eighth and ninth innings, including four on third base, before losing and falling into a wild-card tie with the Brewers.

RISE AND FALL

Even though the Mets were in fourth place on June 13, 7 ½ games behind the Phillies in the National League East and 6 ½ back in the wild-card race, failing in this dramatic a fashion, this late in the season, in that city, would qualify as another collapse.

It will continue Friday and Saturday, with Chris Volstad and Ricky Nolasco starting for the Marlins. Volstad, 22, and Nolasco, 25, could be providing a preview of what the Mets can expect next season, and potentially for several seasons to come. Next season, the Marlins should feature the deepest collection of starters in the division -- and possibly in all of the National League -- with Josh Johnson, Anibal Sanchez and Andrew Miller likely figuring into that mix.

And who better to close out the series, the Mets and Shea Stadium than Scott Olsen? Unofficially, Olsen still leads the NL in rebellion. Nobody on the Marlins would revel more in shocking the Mets than the player who was infamously stunned by police last season.

And who would the Marlins have to beat to get Olsen that final victory? Johan Santana, the Mets' prize offseason acquisition, who was supposed to make the playoffs a certainty and turn last season's historic collapse into a distant footnote.

Santana, of course, is on a streak of 16 starts without a loss, going 8-0 in that stretch with a 2.26 ERA. The Marlins have struggled all season against left-handed starters. They would be more frightened if it were the Phillies' Jamie Moyer on the mound, but Santana provides a significant fear factor himself.

So what better time for a season's worth of statistical support to be rendered meaningless? Last season, the Marlins ended the Mets with a seven-run first inning against another ace lefty, Tom Glavine.

Then there is the element of front-office contrast, further magnified by a curiously timed decision by Mets brass. New York just offered its general manager, Omar Minaya, a four-year extension for almost getting the Mets to the playoffs with a $137 million payroll (the largest in the National League). Marlins GM Larry Beinfest, meanwhile, keeps plugging along with a team nearly as good at one-sixth the price. In Mets measures, that would be worth a 24-year extension.

Last year, eliminating the Mets gave the Marlins meaning for at least one weekend of a trying 91-loss season.

This year, a repeat offering will be the icing on a season that already felt like six months of dessert. Despite a horrendous August, these Marlins, the ones who were publicly dismissed from playoff consideration the day pitchers and catchers reported, went until the final week of the season before officially being eliminated from playoff contention.

Bringing the Mets, and all of Shea Stadium, down with them will be a different kind of sweet.

Darker. Something in the devil's-food family.

Deliciously cruel

Florida Marlins relish the chance to close Shea Stadium

That's a lovely article. Look, I don't know why the Marlins have this obsession about the Mets. Why they are determined to beat the Mets and have such an anger like the Mets insulted the Marlins wives? Why don't the Marlins get pissed like that when they play in front OF NOBODY. NOBODY. A good team like the Marlins play in front of a crowd you'd say at a triple a game. And why don't the Marlins get pissed at the fact they desperately need a new stadium and playing at Joe Robbie or Pro Player or whatever they call it is depressing.
 
Jermaine Dye missed a game tying 3-run HR by inches. Instead it's out number three. Top of the ninth................Indians 11, White Sox 8.
 
Percentage-wise, what are the odds that Milwaukee AND Philly both get in and the Mets get eliminated all in the same day?


I think Philly clinches the NL East tomorrow.

I think the Brewers and Mets go until AT LEAST sunday.
 
You know, I found something funny. Think about this. If the Mets game is played tomorrow and Santana pitches 5 innings of good ball and the mets are winning and let's say, there's a rain delay. If the game gets called the Mets could actually steal a win when you think about it and Santana could actually pitch an inning or two of relief on Sunday. Hey, if and that's a big if, that happens, I'm fine with it. Hey, it's an act of God. The Mets didn't make it rain. God did.
 
You know, I found something funny. Think about this. If the Mets game is played tomorrow and Santana pitches 5 innings of good ball and the mets are winning and let's say, there's a rain delay. If the game gets called the Mets could actually steal a win when you think about it and Santana could actually pitch an inning or two of relief on Sunday. Hey, if and that's a big if, that happens, I'm fine with it. Hey, it's an act of God. The Mets didn't make it rain. God did.


Let's say the Mets put up an 8 spot in the 1st inning tomorrow.

Do you pull Santana and bring him back Sunday?
 
It's over in Chicago...........Indians win, 11-8.


Twins remain a half game in front of the ChiSox.
 
Let's say the Mets put up an 8 spot in the 1st inning tomorrow.

Do you pull Santana and bring him back Sunday?

That's a tough one. I would just maybe get him some work but nothing major maybe 2 or 3 innings most. I wish that happens. If I'm the Mets, all you think is win tomorrow. That's it. If the Brew Crew wins, then we'll take our chances on Sunday.
 
Sixth inning at a half empty Fenway: Yankees 16, Red Sox 5 :eek:

This is starting to resemble game 3 of the 2004 ALCS....................

anyways.....................................................................................
 
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2008 AL EASTERN DIVISION CHAMPIONS!!!
 
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