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Michael-Berlin said:
oh ... only your own opinion is correct and every other opinion is wrong. Well, that's realy democratic! :shh

@rockaway1836: Do you know that ... :trolls:

We have a free press. We have articles from both the left and the right side. Once again, You have no clue WTF you are talking about:rolleyes:
 
vurbano said:
We have a free press. We have articles from both the left and the right side. Once again, You have no clue WTF you are talking about:rolleyes:
I'm believing you. But that stuff about the free press was from T2k.

The american press is nearly the same like our european press. The one and only independent news channel is EuroNews. But our locals aren't independent. ARD and RTL Group is on the left side, ZDF and ProSiebenSat1 is on the right side.

I also believe that ABC, CBS and NBC are independent. But I can't say it exactly 'cos I only receive CNBC Europe with some hours of the NBC Network from New York. And the CBS Evening News every night live on SKY NEWS UK.

But I realy know the content of FOX NEWS ... it's not allowed here, but sometimes I'm watching it ;) And FOX NEWS is NOT an independent news channel! It is NOT "fair" and it is NOT "balanced"! O'Reily is a mega conservative and a republican from hell! FOX NEWS should be renamed into "FAUX NEWS".

A FOX reporter's wife has worked for Bush's election campaign. And this reporter was allowed to make an interview with Bush Jr!
Bush's cousin John Ellis was an editor of FOX NEWS.

WOW ... what an independence :D

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Michael-Berlin said:
I'm believing you. But that stuff about the free press was from T2k.

The american press is nearly the same like our european press. The one and only independent news channel is EuroNews. But our locals aren't independent. ARD and RTL Group is on the left side, ZDF and ProSiebenSat1 is on the right side.

I also believe that ABC, CBS and NBC are independent. But I can't say it exactly 'cos I only receive CNBC Europe with some hours of the NBC Network from New York. And the CBS Evening News every night live on SKY NEWS UK.

But I realy know the content of FOX NEWS ... it's not allowed here, but sometimes I'm watching it ;) And FOX NEWS is NOT an independent news channel! It is NOT "fair" and it is NOT "balanced"! O'Reily is a mega conservative and a republican from hell! FOX NEWS should be renamed into "FAUX NEWS".

A FOX reporter's wife has worked for Bush's election campaign. And this reporter was allowed to make an interview with Bush Jr!
Bush's cousin John Ellis was an editor of FOX NEWS.

WOW ... what an independence :D

Please click here and read this.

Mey Mike...
Greta Van S. works for Fox news and her husband was a John Kerry fundraiser. They always have 2 people from differing points of view on. AS I mentioned before if you can not make and informed statement DON"T make one. If you don't have Fox in Germany how can you tell us who do have it their content.???....did you get that from the news media in the fatherland again? The only reason people don't like Fox is the fact they kick every other channels ass and people like them. O'Reilly rips both sides and has the highest rated show on cable TV in the the USA. If you think CBS is independant you ever hear of the memo-gate scandal that cost Dan" self proclaimed bleeding heart liberal" his job. That is just one instance. Most major news outlets slant left and I will even admit Fox slants to the right sometimes but their is a reason they are #1 in viewership.

AS for the german Gov. not letting Fox in Germeny, maybe they are scared their people will begin to think something other than the crap they get from the outlets you have now.
 
He can't make an informed statement-that is obvious. Like I said before, I am willing to say that part of the problem may be a launguage barrier here. But he should quit now because this is turning into a circus.

And Mike, if you think the US media other than Fox is unbiased go here and please spend some time:

http://www.mediaresearch.org/
 
You're absolutely clueless, look at the campaign connections of all the major news organizations - TV and print. There's connections all over the place. Considering half the country would be considered right of center, what's remarkable is that Fox News is the only news organization with significant connections to right leaning organizations and political leaders.

Personally I think they've all become very similar. Bring up a topic, then let a mouth piece from each side repeat their talking points - then move on to the next topic. No real debate of the issues. Isn't it odd that all we hear is that the other side is always wrong - no matter what the issue. Even the same damn issue, when presented by the other side is now a good thing?

Blaming Bush (or Clinton) for everything, no matter what the topic, shows a real lack of intellect. Hopefully Europe is not full of people like Michael-Berliner who are unable to analyze an issue and develop an educated response. And before you jump down my throat, yes everyone can have an opinion - but when you present the same opinion, regardless of the topic - it is worth nothing IMO.
 
Madtown HD Junkie said:
Mey Mike...
If you don't have Fox in Germany how can you tell us who do have it their content
I have it ... but it's not allowed to post here, how I receive it ;)
FOX News is the one and only US news channel with 24/7 coverage to Europe. But the channel is encrypted and only accessible for Rupert Murdoch's subribers (SKY UK, SKY Italy and Digital+ Spain)

Madtown HD Junkie said:
AS for the german Gov. not letting Fox in Germeny, maybe they are scared their people will begin to think something other than the crap they get from the outlets you have now.
That could be. FOX News is very conservative and our current gov. is red/green. But it can be changed after our next election on September, 18th. ... if the christians (CDU) win ;) We will see ...

btw ... that would be our very first female chancelor :D
 
W_Tracy_Parnell said:
Like I said before, I am willing to say that part of the problem may be a launguage barrier here.
Not for me. I understand you very well. And if I don't understand a word, I'm translating it with Google's language-tools.

But I have some grammaticaly problems :( That could be the reason for differencies here.

W_Tracy_Parnell said:
But he should quit now because this is turning into a circus.
I guess, you're right.

But I've learned a lot of your system here! And I'm very thankfull for that!
 
Off Topic:

Michael:
Is their a sharp political divide in Berlin between the old West and East Berliners - or is it mixed regardless of their origin?
 
CPanther95 said:
Off Topic:

Michael:
Is their a sharp political divide in Berlin between the old West and East Berliners - or is it mixed regardless of their origin?
of course there is a wall in the heads of some people. But only of the older guys.
I was 15 when the wall fell and 16 while the reunion. I wasn't interessted in political stuff in this years. But I've received AFN-TV (American Forces Television) at this time over antenna. That was great!
 
Michael-Berlin said:
oh ... only your own opinion is correct and every other opinion is wrong. Well, that's realy democratic! :shh

@rockaway1836: Do you know that ... :trolls:
No, an informed opinion is always welcome. People that make statements like that previous poster don't deserve my time. I have better things to do with my time than qualify such outrageous things. We in this country, as you do in yours have a certain amount of nuts. You yourself say that you belive differently than he posted. You have said more than a few things that we have shown you to be wrong. Yet you keep going. I suggest to you that you are the troll here.
 
I don't remember AFN as fondly as you. We couldn't even get it in Munich, when we moved to Augsburg, it was years behind the programmiing from the States. We watched Kojak in German if we wanted anything recent.
 
@rockaway: You can't say I'm uninformed. Well, I don't have your view. That's right. I have an european view. But I'm informed. So informed as european media give me the information. It isn't my fault if they bring wrong infos in the news. But for this I'm here to make my eyes more open. And THIS is realy democratic!
FOX NEWS isn't a good source for information. IMO it's just a commercial program of/for the republicans.

@CPanther: AFN-TV is only in Heidelberg and Rammstein to see. In Berlin it's off :(
 
I didn't call you uninformed I said mis-informed. I know the language barrier can be working against us here. But there is a big difference between the two.
 
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