Voom.com gone again??
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Yeah but do we know who owns voomllc.com?
A whois returns the following..
Whois Search Results
Search again (.aero, .arpa, .biz, .com, .coop, .edu, .info, .int, .museum, .name, .net, or .org):
Domain (ex. internic.net)
Registrar (ex. ABC Registrar, Inc.)
Nameserver (ex. ns.example.com or 192.16.0.192)
Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
Domain Name: VOOMLLC.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS51.WORLDNIC.COM
Name Server: NS52.WORLDNIC.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 01-mar-2005
Creation Date: 01-mar-2005
Expiration Date: 01-mar-2006
So this tells us that it was registered yesterday and its dns being served by networksolutions (those dns servers are networksolutions dns servers).
A whois returns the following..
Whois Search Results
Search again (.aero, .arpa, .biz, .com, .coop, .edu, .info, .int, .museum, .name, .net, or .org):
Domain (ex. internic.net)
Registrar (ex. ABC Registrar, Inc.)
Nameserver (ex. ns.example.com or 192.16.0.192)
Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
Domain Name: VOOMLLC.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS51.WORLDNIC.COM
Name Server: NS52.WORLDNIC.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 01-mar-2005
Creation Date: 01-mar-2005
Expiration Date: 01-mar-2006
So this tells us that it was registered yesterday and its dns being served by networksolutions (those dns servers are networksolutions dns servers).
I Just Typed In www.voom.com An The Message Came Up Saying They Are Not Taking Any More Sub. & Will Shut Down By The End Of March
VOOM is still owned by CVC. CVC board has voted to shut down the service by the end of March. Voom.com is owned by CVC. Until CVC and Dolan Sr reach an agreement expect voom.com to stay on the shutdown message. The fact that CSRs are still taking orders for installation points to the possibility that CVC thinks they might still reach an agreement with the Dolans and sell VOOM.
I would expect that if an agreement is not reached by sometime next week, CVC will have no choice but to send out letters to subs saying the service is about to be cut off. This will really hurt any chances of VOOM surviving since a lot of subs would probably jump ship when they got the letter and it would be hard to convince them that it is safe to come back. There is now a lot of time pressure on Dolan Sr to reach an agreement before the cutoff notices go out...
I would expect that if an agreement is not reached by sometime next week, CVC will have no choice but to send out letters to subs saying the service is about to be cut off. This will really hurt any chances of VOOM surviving since a lot of subs would probably jump ship when they got the letter and it would be hard to convince them that it is safe to come back. There is now a lot of time pressure on Dolan Sr to reach an agreement before the cutoff notices go out...
mike, I am just surprised that you refused to believe/ignore what transpired over two hours ago. It may mean nothing but it means that there is something going behind the scenes which we were able to see. Whether it happened to be true or not. www.voomllc.com seems to be legit. Why would anyone do this and put up with the legal consequences? I am sure J. Dolan knows about it as well.
We are waiting for an agreement and I think the thread was just stating that the Voom (old site) site was down again.
We are waiting for an agreement and I think the thread was just stating that the Voom (old site) site was down again.
Lets see there is:
http://www.hdtv-voom.com
http://www.valueelectronics.com/Voom.htm
http://myvoom.tripod.com/
http://www.skylinkcommunications.com/voomla/programming.htm
These are all dealer web sites vary in the "look and feel" of the VOOM web site. Notice they all have different 800 numbers to call. VOOMLLC.com could just be a dealer web site.
http://www.hdtv-voom.com
http://www.valueelectronics.com/Voom.htm
http://myvoom.tripod.com/
http://www.skylinkcommunications.com/voomla/programming.htm
These are all dealer web sites vary in the "look and feel" of the VOOM web site. Notice they all have different 800 numbers to call. VOOMLLC.com could just be a dealer web site.
mike123abc said:
It could be. I am not denying or re-affirming that it is not. I am just saying that at this point everything is conjecture until we know more facts. Right now, as we know there are two websites:
www.voom.com with the shutdown message (legit from CVC)
www.voomllc.com ---> we do not know who owns it.
Yet the events that took place this afternoon makes you wonder if the parties involved are not pissing over each others foot.
lets see: voomllc.com comes up, in a few minutes voom.com is no longer stating the shutdown message, at one point voomllc.com points back to voom.com, voom.com goes back to shutdown message, voomllc.com goes down, a few minutes later voomllc.com goes back up. Did it all happen by accident?
whois
WTH are you looking at?
zombie said:
WTH are you looking at?
Code:
MC SQUARED INCORPORATED (MTYONWCFND)
17 HARBOURTON RIDGE DR
PENNINGTON, NJ 08534-3712
US
Domain Name: VOOMLLC.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
MC SQUARED INCORPORATED (MS5023-ORG) cgentile@mcsqd.com
17 HARBOURTON RIDGE DR
PENNINGTON, NJ 08534-3712
US
609 818 0725 fax: 609 818 9205
Record expires on 01-Mar-2006.
Record created on 01-Mar-2005.
Database last updated on 2-Mar-2005 16:22:47 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS51.WORLDNIC.COM 216.168.228.28
NS52.WORLDNIC.COM 216.168.225.192The 866-931-VOOM number is registered to CVC/VOOM. Here is a cached copy (for a while at least) of the voom.com web site that used to have this phone number on it:
http://66.218.71.225/search/cache?p...ml&w=866+931+8666&d=3A839801C7&icp=1&.intl=us
Note that the address was www.voom.com/util/offers_details.html
On a personal note I really hope that VOOM indeed does get sold to Dolan Sr and survives. It would be nice to have more competition in the DBS market and I would consider switching to VOOM once they came out with a DVR.
http://66.218.71.225/search/cache?p...ml&w=866+931+8666&d=3A839801C7&icp=1&.intl=us
Note that the address was www.voom.com/util/offers_details.html
On a personal note I really hope that VOOM indeed does get sold to Dolan Sr and survives. It would be nice to have more competition in the DBS market and I would consider switching to VOOM once they came out with a DVR.
Voomllc.com is registered to MC Squared ...
MC Squared has a press release on their main page about a joint venture with Kestral Communications LLC, called FullCircle LLC...
Following a link in that press release to the FullCircle LLC site you find another Press Release about FullCircle winning an award for producing Vooms Marketing CD.
FullCircle Wins MarCom Platinum Award
Looks to me like MC Squared's voomllc.com site is legit.
MC Squared has a press release on their main page about a joint venture with Kestral Communications LLC, called FullCircle LLC...
Following a link in that press release to the FullCircle LLC site you find another Press Release about FullCircle winning an award for producing Vooms Marketing CD.
FullCircle Wins MarCom Platinum Award
Looks to me like MC Squared's voomllc.com site is legit.
Itsy bitsy pieces...
...between the lines...MC Squared (formula for energy)...FullCircle (back to where I was before the demon seed exploded)...VoOming again!
Vicki
...between the lines...MC Squared (formula for energy)...FullCircle (back to where I was before the demon seed exploded)...VoOming again!
Vicki
Only in the land where Kevin Bacon is king.Bluzman said:
Do you see MC Squared list of clients on their website? Do you see their list of services? Do you see web design listed? Do you see any reason why they would have this hosted as a /voom domain in a frame instead of a direct web server?
It boggles the mind that people take one shred of hope and treat it like it is the absolute final proof positive that all is well. The only thing the existence of that /voom site and the frame page at voomllc.com and newvoom.com proves is that someone who has the ability to register a domain name for MC Squared and has access to their webserver (but evidently not DNS tables and server setup) really likes Voom and wants to make it look like it is succeeding.
voomhdllc.com was registered tonight. Will it be a mirror of the /voom site?
voomlives.com is still available ... for now.
Getting a domain registered and frame pointed is easy.
JL
justalurker said:Only in the land where Kevin Bacon is king.
Do you see MC Squared list of clients on their website? Do you see their list of services? Do you see web design listed? Do you see any reason why they would have this hosted as a /voom domain in a frame instead of a direct web server?
It boggles the mind that people take one shred of hope and treat it like it is the absolute final proof positive that all is well. The only thing the existence of that /voom site and the frame page at voomllc.com and newvoom.com proves is that someone who has the ability to register a domain name for MC Squared and has access to their webserver (but evidently not DNS tables and server setup) really likes Voom and wants to make it look like it is succeeding.
voomhdllc.com was registered tonight. Will it be a mirror of the /voom site?
voomlives.com is still available ... for now.
Getting a domain registered and frame pointed is easy.
JL
Sorry I know it hurts but the Website www.voomllc.com is real... Whether you believe or not.
It is a real website, just like Satelliteguys.us - not owned or controlled by Voom.Sean Mota said:Sorry I know it hurts but the Website www.voomllc.com is real... Whether you believe or not.
There are a lot of real websites out there.
JL
Can anyone actually connect MCSquared to Chuck and Tom? Just because a company that did marketing for voom puts up a half assed single page site doesnt mean anything..
I hope voom survives, but this does not give me the hope it seems to give some of you..
I hope voom survives, but this does not give me the hope it seems to give some of you..
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