Upgrade to HD - Cheap way?

[paubb1]

I want to upgrade to Dish Network HD. I install myself. They don't like my tower. Want to buy a dish but which is the latest model for HD? eBay probably the cheapest place. What switch do I need?

Are there any good all HDMI output PVR models? If not single output PVRs?

Lots of questions. Is there a place where this has been discussed in the past? I tried a few searches and didn't find exact answers.

 

[Laddyboy]

One dish solutions for HD are the 1000.2 and 1000.4 antennas. The 1000.2 is for the western arc and points SW to 110, 119, and 129. The 1000.4 is the eastern arc antenna and points SE to 61.5, 72.7, and 77. Although the Detroit DMA is a designated eastern arc market, your HD locals are available on both arcs so you can go either way. The 1000.4 eastern arc requires all MPEG4 capable receivers which all ViP HD receivers are. The ViP 211 is a HD receiver for one TV only. It can be turned into a HD DVR by paying a one-time fee and connecting an external hard drive. The ViP 612 is a 2-tuner HD DVR for one TV. It allows you to record 2 sat channels while watching the playback of a previously recorded program. It also has a single OTA HD tuner. It does not have PiP. The 222 is a HD receiver (non DVR) for one HDTV and one SDTV. The ViP 622 and ViP 722 are nearly identical. Each can be used with one HDTV and one SDTV, have 2 tuners for watching/recording satellite channels and one OTA ATSC digital tuner for recording HD OTA. When use in single mode with a single TV, a PiP function is available. The 722k is like the 722 but with 2 OTA tuners. All ViP receivers have HDMI outputs for HD along with component. There is a newer receiver that is supposed to debut this Fall, the 922. It is similar to the 722k but will have a different interface and built-in Sling technology.

The 1000.2 and 1000.4 each have a built-in DPP 33 switch to provide signals to up to three dual tuner DishPro receivers using one cable with a provided separator. No additional switch would be required unless you exceed three receivers. Equipment can also be found at site sponsors like DishStore (see the link at the top of the page).

 

[bebop]

Laddyboy,

Thanks for the info! I knew some of that already - but it explained a few things I didn't even know about.

 

[paubb1]

Laddyboy,
Thanks it is exactly the type of summary I wanted. Now to figure out the costs of the options I have.

 

[TheKrell]

The 1000.2 and 1000.4 each have a built-in DPP 33 switch...

Very minor nit to pick. We should call it a DPP43, since there is an input port for a wing dish.

 

[Laddyboy]

Very minor nit to pick. We should call it a DPP43, since there is an input port for a wing dish.

Yep, that is correct. Mucho gracias for catching that.

 

[SeaWolf34]

...........The 1000.2 and 1000.4 each have a built-in DPP 33 switch to provide signals to up to three dual tuner DishPro receivers using one cable with a provided separator. No additional switch would be required unless you exceed three receivers. Equipment can also be found at site sponsors like DishStore (see the link at the top of the page).

Just to clarify ('scuse my noob status), if I were to connect 3 DVR's to one RG6 coax from my 1000.2 dish, I would use 5 DP+ separators (P/N 123254). Or if I wanted to connect to one HD DVR receiver and one HD none-DVR receiver, I would need 2 DP+ separators!

If the second setup is true, then I should be able to use 2 receivers in my 5th wheel trailer whilst only needing the single SAT PREP provided to feed inside from the DPP 1000.2 LNBF! Inso?

Denny_A

 

[TheKrell]

No no no! What you are trying to do will not work at all. One separator goes on the back of each dual-tuner receiver. One cable is required to go between your 1000.2 and each receiver, whether or not it's a single or a dual-tuner receiver. You cannot use a separator to split the antenna line to two different receivers, period. (It might be technically possible to use it to split the signal between two single-tuner receivers, but Dish has never engineered such a feature.)

 

[SeaWolf34]

Knew it wasn't that simple!

No no no! What you are trying to do will not work at all. One separator goes on the back of each dual-tuner receiver. One cable is required to go between your 1000.2 and each receiver, whether or not it's a single or a dual-tuner receiver. You cannot use a separator to split the antenna line to two different receivers, period. (It might be technically possible to use it to split the signal between two single-tuner receivers, but Dish has never engineered such a feature.)

Thanks for the corrective guidance. What threw me was Laddyboy's statement: Quote.....built-in DPP 33 switch to provide signals to up to three dual tuner DishPro receivers using one cable with a provided separator. End Quote

I inferred that it meant one cable chained to separators vs. three separate cables (one from each of the three ports of the LNB), each one being connected to a separator.

I guess I'll settle for using the Cable Prep port on my trailer to feed the 2nd HD rcvr and run a second RG6 coax to it. Much better solution as long as the RG59 coax of the cable feed doesn't mess up the satellite signal.

Thanks again.

 

[arrakian]

The 1000.2 and 1000.4 each have a built-in DPP 33 switch to provide signals to up to three dual tuner DishPro receivers using one cable with a provided separator.

Laddyboy,
Would there be any downside to not using a Duo (722, 222) and having three 612s? I never did two TV control with my 625.

 

[garys]

No PIP.

 

[Kirk Hawes]

The 1000.2 and 1000.4 each have a built-in DPP 33 switch to provide signals to up to three dual tuner DishPro receivers using one cable with a provided separator. No additional switch would be required unless you exceed three receivers. Equipment can also be found at site sponsors like DishStore (see the link at the top of the page).[/QUOTE]

When they installed my 1000.2 they connected the old existing cable(which is connected directly to a VIP 722) to output port 1, and connected a new 3G cable to output port 2(which now ends at a empty connecter). Output port 3 cable terminates on the roof. The "old cable" that currently connects my 722 to output 1 is labeled Radio Shack SAT FOAM 18AWG CL2 E111378A 75O C (UL). Is the old Radio Shack cable sufficient (manual says rated 950-2150 MHz), or should I "re-wire" ?

 

[Jim5506]

And to date 612's tend to be slightly more buggy than 622/722/722k.