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Goalie, I'm glad you're optimistic. But what I'm reading is economists divided into two camps. One camp says recovery is possible in 2010. The other says that's too soon, maybe way too soon.

I'm not a believer in the "Greater Depression" but I foresee no great recovery in 2009. Whether we throw money at the "Big 3" or not, a lot of people in auto manufacturing are going to lose their jobs. Markets always win out. It took 70 years, but Communism went away. Featherbedding, over compensated auto manufacturing jobs gave a great ride for a while, but eventually it could not be sustained, and just resulted in a larger fall. It won't be the catastrophe on a national scale some say, but it will certainly work against near term recovery.

Pilgrim's Pride is in bankruptcy, as are many others. Many, maybe most, will come out reorganized, leaner and meaner. But at least some won't. How many people expect CC to still be a going concern 6 or 12 months from now? Remember Tweeter's? And how many others have recently departed or are on a slippery slope?

The credit crunch is still bringing down companies and individuals. That bailout has solved nothing, at least not in the short term, and according to some economists, may make things worse over the long term.

No, from where I sit in a small business, unemployment is going to continue to grow for some time. Disposable income, and even people's willingness to spend, is going down. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.


So where does all this leave the satcos? Well, I daresay people will view TV as relatively cheap substitute entertainment. They'll downgrade, and some at the lower end will drop off. But some might move theater, restaurant and other luxury monies into satco services. I suspect there will be a decline, but not a major one. Just my guess. We're all on this roller coaster together, and will find out soon enough.
 
Full time RSNs

I don't understand what all the shouting about full time RSNs is for.
The major leagues blackout all the games on the RSNs that are not in your area
and when I had the sports package during the collage football season when the RSNs had football on it was mostly the same game.
 
Well, it's good to read that some are less than fully satisfied with D*. We see so much whining about E*. Just a reminder that whatever we have, the Buddhists are right: "It's never enough."
 
Superdish is 36x20
Slimline is 32.5x22.5

I thought it was bigger. Nevertheless, it would probably have to be made bigger to receive 129 in addition to 119, 110, and 105 or 121.

But I think the idea of repointing 1M customers is the bigger deal.
 
I'm still waiting for the HBO and Lifetime suites to come to DirecTV. My wife watches a ton of Lifetime and I feel I'm being cheated by not getting the same amount of HBO/Cinemax channels as Dish Network.

On the other hand, and far more important to me, without MLB I can't switch to Dish no matter how much HD they have.

So yes...both providers have some work to do. Although I'm getting rather bored with the lack of HD adds from DirecTV, I wouldn't exactly call it going in the "tanker".
 
Might I also remind everyone that most economist today couldn't predict what has happened, and cant predict market performance today as were in "uncharted territory"

Might want to look at this. Actually, you probably really don't want to read this. Even if they are economists and did forecast our troubles.

You are a drinking man, right?
 
PS My local HD RSNs on E* always show all HD games that are scheduled on the HD RSN.

That means either your local HD RSN doesn't carry many games in HD or you and the rest of the people in your RSN territory are extremely lucky.
 
That means either your local HD RSN doesn't carry many games in HD or you and the rest of the people in your RSN territory are extremely lucky.

So, your HD RSN has HD games in its scheduled that are not broadcast in the Dish Network HD RSN channel ?

Do you have specific examples ?

Just curious...

PS Dish has no need to use 105 or 121. They will obtain the capacity they need by launching new spot beam satellites to 110/119/129 and 61.5./72.5/77 - such as the one they launched today.
 
Might want to look at this. Actually, you probably really don't want to read this. Even if they are economists and did forecast our troubles.

Every time I read that "someone did predict this", I find that the situation is "a stopped clock is correct twice a day".

There are people predicting certain things every year for 20 years, and when it happens, then they get credit for a "correct prediction".

If you find someone who accurately predicts the ups and downs and when they are going to happen, you will find someone who makes Bill Gates look poor in comparision - and, of course, there are no such people.
 
Are you certain on this? I have the superdish and slimline side by side and they look identical (the actual dish part anyway).

Well that's what I found on the internet. They are pretty close.

I thought I remembered asking why 121 and 105 were not used anymore. The response I got was that the Superdish was too big. I wonder why the Slimline works and the Superdish failed (from a customer acceptance standpoint)
 

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