Traditional Providers Losses, 3rd Quarter 2024 Edition

[Bruce]

Altice USA lost 77,000 Video Subscribers.

3rd Quarter is now at 644,000 lost.

Again, last year in the 3rd quarter, Net loss was 465,000.

We still have Dish , Hulu Live, YTTV to report, plus the estimated loss of DirecTV (500,000-1 Million because of ESPN/Disney dispute).

So unless Hulu Live and YTTV have major gains, this year loss might be, roughly, at least a million more then 3rd Quarter 2023.

Altice USA Sheds 77,000 Video Subscribers Amid Third Quarter Revenue Fall

The cable operator, led by Dennis Mathew, has introduced new digital TV packages to target cord-cutters and consumers shifting online.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[Bruce]

Dish lost, roughly, 180,000 Satellite Subscribers , but thanks to Sling’s gains, had a net loss of 43,000.

That is not good news, they lose Satellite Subscribers paying $100-120 a month, traded it in for 145,000 new Sling subscribers paying $40 a month( or less because of the promo special they were running during this time period).

Total lost this quarter-613,000, roughly 150,000 more then 3rd Quarter last year, this is before Hulu Live numbers (Thursday) and the estimated numbers of YTTV and DirecTV.

EchoStar Posts Loss of Dish, Gain of Sling TV Subs in Third Quarter, Raises $5.2B in Fresh Capital

The telecom giant, led by CEO Hamid Akhavan and executive chairman Charlie Ergen, has agreed to be acquired by DirecTV to firm a new pay-TV giant.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[b4pjoe]

Dish lost, roughly, roughly, 100,000 Satellite Subscribers , but thanks to Sling’s gains, had a net loss of 43,000.

That is not good news, they lose Satellite Subscribers paying $100-120 a month, traded it in for 145,000 new Sling subscribers paying $40 a month( or less because of the promo special they were running during this time period).

Total lost this quarter-613,000, roughly 150,000 more then 3rd Quarter last year, this is before Hulu Live numbers (Thursday) and the estimated numbers of YTTV and DirecTV.

EchoStar Posts Loss of Dish, Gain of Sling TV Subs in Third Quarter, Raises $5.2B in Fresh Capital

The telecom giant, led by CEO Hamid Akhavan and executive chairman Charlie Ergen, has agreed to be acquired by DirecTV to firm a new pay-TV giant.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

I wonder how many of those 145,000 new Sling subscribers were DIRECTV customers subscribing to the deals they were promoting during the Disney dispute just to get ESPN and that have by now already dropped the service?

 

[Bruce]

I wonder how many of those 145,000 new Sling subscribers were DIRECTV customers subscribing to the deals they were promoting during the Disney dispute just to get ESPN and that have by now already dropped the service?

We will find out in the 4th quarter, but I believe the majority of them.

 

[Bruce]

Total lost this quarter-613,000, roughly 150,000 more then 3rd Quarter last year, this is before Hulu Live numbers (Thursday) and the estimated numbers of YTTV and DirecTV.

Hulu Live gained 200,000

How many of those are due to the DirecTV dispute with Disney/ESPN, I have no idea, need 4th Quarter numbers for better analysis.

The estimated numbers for DirecTV are a million lost, 500,000 normal + a additional 500,000 due to the dispute, but some of those could come back.

The Fitch Ratings report on DirecTV is usually released in January, so they will have a accurate report on DirecTV.

They are now saying YTTV gained, estimated, 500,000, some due to the dispute of course

So with that, -963,000 that have left paid Live TV, about a 500,000 increase over 3rd Quarter 2023.

 

[MartyDe]

I am currently testing Hulu live based on their $60 per month offer, for three months. So far pretty good. I'll be in the next quarter report.

 

[Bruce]

I am currently testing Hulu live based on their $60 per month offer, for three months. So far pretty good. I'll be in the next quarter report.

Obviously for a plus for Hulu Live.

What provider did you leave?

 

[MartyDe]

Obviously for a plus for Hulu Live.

What provider did you leave?

Cox cable

 

[Bruce]

Cox cable

ewww.

 

[MartyDe]

ewww.

I have to say over the many years they have been pretty good when I compare them with comments in my area about other companies. Technically very good, and reliable. Only bad comment is they really can't do phones in all of their areas. Gremlins get into the phone area of the spectrum they use. Price? we all know about that.