Point taken. I do plan to mess around with an extra dish I have to see if I can get 129 from my side yard. That won't prove anything about Vermont since they are further east than I, but it's something I wanted to try anyway.
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Point taken. I do plan to mess around with an extra dish I have to see if I can get 129 from my side yard. That won't prove anything about Vermont since they are further east than I, but it's something I wanted to try anyway.
Thanks. That should not be a problem, as I am getting my locals elsewhere. I do have trees a little way behind me. Guess I will have to get on my roof and give it a try.
Tech came this weekend to my place on the Jersey Shore and hooked me up to Eastern Arc.
They finally got it right on the 4th attempt. My 722,622, and 211 are now looking at the Eastern Arc birds and 61.5. My daughters 510 is still using the existing dish aimed at 110/119 for her TV (no HD on that set so she is good). I'm still nervous about the low signal readings (only low 40's) on Eastern Arc which will mean that rain fade will become more of an issue for me I'm assuming. Scary thing is that 61.5 is now my strongest set of signals, when it was the first to cut out in snow or rain. We'll see.
It cost me $15 as I am on the service plan.
Installers had one minor glitch. My upstairs TV had two cables running to it, and when they upgraded they killed the signal to one of the tuners. Inexplicable the switch test passed, even with one dead line. It was trying to do the EPG download and they took off, thinking everything was OK. After an hour and no signal, I traced it down to no signal on one of the lines. Luckily, I had a DP separator in my storage bin for surplus cables and parts from previous receiver upgrades. Hooked it up and everything was fine after that.
I noticed that recordings seem to be larger and taking up more space than they did, but this could be seen as good news as programs are less compressed perhaps?
They finally got it right on the 4th attempt. My 722,622, and 211 are now looking at the Eastern Arc birds and 61.5. My daughters 510 is still using the existing dish aimed at 110/119 for her TV (no HD on that set so she is good). I'm still nervous about the low signal readings (only low 40's) on Eastern Arc which will mean that rain fade will become more of an issue for me I'm assuming. Scary thing is that 61.5 is now my strongest set of signals, when it was the first to cut out in snow or rain. We'll see.
It cost me $15 as I am on the service plan.
Installers had one minor glitch. My upstairs TV had two cables running to it, and when they upgraded they killed the signal to one of the tuners. Inexplicable the switch test passed, even with one dead line. It was trying to do the EPG download and they took off, thinking everything was OK. After an hour and no signal, I traced it down to no signal on one of the lines. Luckily, I had a DP separator in my storage bin for surplus cables and parts from previous receiver upgrades. Hooked it up and everything was fine after that.
I noticed that recordings seem to be larger and taking up more space than they did, but this could be seen as good news as programs are less compressed perhaps?
I just checked mine and the elevation is 20.2. I'm not sure I'll make it over my own trees using the leftover post from my old 110/119 setup, but I'll give it a try after spring thaw.
Thanks! I think the trees are closer than that, so it may not work. I do have the dish on my roof, which is a three story townhouse. Hopefully, that will help.
turns out i misunderstood. getting the full credit onone bill. it's just divdied into two credits of $45.
Ron
Per the map, DC should be able to get 129. I'll bet it's iffy, though. As stated, locals are on 61.5 anyway. And we may all be "given" those locals soon whether we want them or not.
And the rare 411 should work with EA also, should it not?
And the rare 411 should work with EA also, should it not?
This makes sense to me. I checked several sites and it would be about 15 degrees and with trees etc.. It was a no go. I did read on the Burlington AVS forum of an install North of me where there was a Western Arc install with usable 129 and 61.5 wing using 1000.5 (some quoted below)
"There seems to be some urgency at getting the local installers to do the conversion because the 4 position switch needed is in short supply. The installer had done two other similar installs beside mine this week--and I called the day the HD stations were announced. The only downside I see is the fact that the 129 degree sat. has a considerably lower signal strength reading. (129 reads 37, 119 reads 77 and 110 reads 67.) The installer suggested that this is typical for 129 in Vermont. Actually, my 110 and 119 readings are higher with the Dish 500 Plus. Hope this helps."
So 129 appears to be in the State. Apparently 77 in unusable the further north you go. Some other interesting info from an installer on The Canadian border in that same forum. I have, as of today, the Eastern arc with 110 wing. And have a usable, though be it weaker, signal on 77 Time will tell
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Burlington, VT - HDTV - Page 128 - AVS Forum
DC HD locals are on 61.5 only, so you would lose those if you went to 129. You need to upgrade to the eastern arc (1000.4 dish) and get 61.5/72/77. Then you will have all the HD channels plus the DC HD locals. The only thing you will lose is the SD Locals.
EDIT: Oh I see you get your HD locals elsewhere. Then I guess pointing to 129 would get you the new channels. I just prefer getting rid of 2 dishes and just having 1.
Yeah, one dish would be nice. But, I am thinking it would be a lot easier to repoint the 61.5, than to install a new dish.
I see you are in Leesburg. I am very close, in Ashburn/Broadlands. Are you using the 1000.4 dish?
FAQ?
I've made it through about half of this thread....
I'm in central NJ and get NY locals with the 200 Package and Cinemax-for-a-penny plus the three free months of HBO and Showtime and HD Platinum. I have a Dish 500 on the West corner of the house (the front of the house faces North West) pointing at 110 & 119. I have a separate dish (300?) on the East corner of the house pointing at 61.5 (which gets my my NY HD locals). I have a single ViP 722, so Easter Arc/MPEG-4 isn't a problem.
I gather that if I want the new HD channels, I need to pick up the 129 or 72.7 bird.
It seems I have two options:
Western Arc: Replace the Dish 500 with 1000.2 to pick up 110/119/129 and keep the 61.5.
Eastern Arc: Remove/disconnect Dish 500, replace 61.5 with 1000.4 to pick up 61.5/72.7/77.
Will a 1000.4 have lower signal strength than the single dish from the 61.5 bird?
Why would I want one option over the other? What are the ramifications in terms of signal strength (and rain/snow fade) and future programming? The elevation to the 129 bird would be about 18 degrees. The elevation for the 1000.4 would be 42-ish.
Thanks!
Brett
I've made it through about half of this thread....
I'm in central NJ and get NY locals with the 200 Package and Cinemax-for-a-penny plus the three free months of HBO and Showtime and HD Platinum. I have a Dish 500 on the West corner of the house (the front of the house faces North West) pointing at 110 & 119. I have a separate dish (300?) on the East corner of the house pointing at 61.5 (which gets my my NY HD locals). I have a single ViP 722, so Easter Arc/MPEG-4 isn't a problem.
I gather that if I want the new HD channels, I need to pick up the 129 or 72.7 bird.
It seems I have two options:
Western Arc: Replace the Dish 500 with 1000.2 to pick up 110/119/129 and keep the 61.5.
Eastern Arc: Remove/disconnect Dish 500, replace 61.5 with 1000.4 to pick up 61.5/72.7/77.
Will a 1000.4 have lower signal strength than the single dish from the 61.5 bird?
Why would I want one option over the other? What are the ramifications in terms of signal strength (and rain/snow fade) and future programming? The elevation to the 129 bird would be about 18 degrees. The elevation for the 1000.4 would be 42-ish.
Thanks!
Brett
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I am in central NJ as well, Neptune. I got the Eastern Arc. We can't get 129 in our area. If you go to Post 475 in this thread there is a further explanation. Do a search of my name and you will see how I made out.
Yes. They came last week and swapped my old 61.5/110/119 for a 1000.4.
The installer said all new installs in this area now get the 1000.4. He wasn't familiar with the new channels not being on 61.5, so I printed out the PDF file from post #1 for his reference. He was surprised nobody let the installers know.
I do not have DHPP. I don't really want to sign up, then cancel and get hit with the charges. Plus, my service address is different than my billing address. I would rather repoint the dish, or install the 1000.4 myself. I am guessing the mount for the 1000.4 is different from the mount for the 61.5 dish? Would be great if I could just switch out the 1000.4 on the 61.5 mount. I think I read that can't be done, though.
Hopefully someone can help.. I am in southern NJ and have 2 dishes currently on my ROOF.. I had someone come out today to tell me I cant put an eastern ARC dish up because of a TREE. I read somewhere else that people were able to kep the 2 dishes they currently have and ADD a THIRD dish to get the new satellite? the 1dy guy who came out (but didnt do the work because of snow) said that is all I needed.. Didnt look with the compass.. is this true? can I do something with a third dish so I can get the channels? Not getting these channels is going to make me think about switching off of dish. I live in a town house and the trees are not mine so I can not cut them down...
any help would be appreciated...
any help would be appreciated...
You probably have a D500 with Twin LNB pointed at 110/119 and another D500 pointed at 61.5. The installer might have been talking about adding another D500 for 129 or 72.7. Either would fix you up.
