Some Interesting Dish Info

[SpenceJT]

I just do not want this if I am going to have to spend 5-10 minutes transfering stuff back and forth every time I want to view it. Now if plugging in an external drive would simply expand your available recording time then yes I will send them the 40 bucks and buy a drive.

AlaJoe,
Once transferred to the external drive, you will be able to play directly from that drive.

The only shortcoming appears to be the inability to record directly to the external drive.

way to SCOOP me NavyChop!

 

[gadgtfreek]

DirecTV and CableTV dont officially support it and actually tell uses what works today might not work tommorow.

For $40 you get piece of mind that what works today will work tommorow, and if you have an issue you can call them about it. For the other guys you call them about external storage problems and your going to get a big SORRY.

I also know of no provider (granded I have not tried them all) which lets you move shows between drives and also other receivers on your account.

You are right on all statements. Comcast did not allow moving back and forth, the Comcast dvr would record to whichever drive had the largest amount of storage left.

 

[gadgtfreek]

It will play directly off the external drive. You can move recordings onto and off the external drive. But it apparently won't automatically move stuff to the external device, at least not at first.

A feature that Comcast had is it would record to whichever had the most space.

A good question is:

What happens when Im outta town and my 622 fills up, will it move files to the ext? Will it record to the ext after that?

This is an issue E* needs to consider. Sometimes Im gone for 2 weeks.

If itll fill up the 622 then quit with a empty external, that sucks.

 

[Airblair]

Scott, I have a couple of questions about these features:

You WILL be able to move the hard drives to other 622 / 722's in your house and enjoy recorded shows on any of your 622's or 722's that you have. However you wont be able to bring your drive to a friends house and watch recorded shows on their 622/722. (This will work at LAUNCH, for awhile there they said they hoped to have this feature available shortly after launch)

Will you have to physically move the external HDD's between your 622/722s? Will there be a way to seamlessly share recordings between all ViP receivers in your house?

An interesting feature was told to me, was that you will be able to somehow hook up your 622 to your 722 and transfer shows between them. (It was not explained to me how this was done)

This is confusing. Next time you talk to your source, here's what I'd like clarified: Is it just between a 622 and a 722? What about between two 622s, or other ViP receivers? And how are they actually connected? USB? Ethernet? Coax? Powerline/DishComm?

 

[CJPC]

Id assume if they were to be connected (to transfer), it would be ethernet. Its the cheapest and fastest way to get it done. Try transfering 1hr's worth (about 7gb of MPEG2HD) over a powerline, you will be there for a while.

I just would like an option to enable/disable transfers, or something of that sort (so one DVR essentically cant see whats on the other!)

Furthermore, back to technical details, IF the smartcard held even a 1 to ERD, and the account number, each HDD could be flagged with the account number, so it checked, or every file stored could be encrypted , could be a thousand different things, none of which really should be discussed, no matter how interesting it may be!

 

[harshness]

Yep, I agree. Reminds me of the phone companies when they charged you a fee for touch tone service that your phone already supported.

The scary part about that was that it cost them significant money to deny you touch tone service. Almost as hairy as party lines.

 

[VinceT3]

DirecTV and CableTV dont officially support it and actually tell uses what works today might not work tommorow.

For $40 you get piece of mind that what works today will work tommorow, and if you have an issue you can call them about it. For the other guys you call them about external storage problems and your going to get a big SORRY.

I also know of no provider (granded I have not tried them all) which lets you move shows between drives and also other receivers on your account.

*cough* TIVO *cough*

 

[M Sparks]

This is great- I've been DVRing HD movies and making standard anamorphic DVDs out of them...they look just about as good as a commercial DVD! But I use a kind of convoluted lengthy process, so I'm often DVRing them them faster than I can pull them off. I never came close to filling up my hard drive until I started doing that...if I haven't watched a show in a week or two, I'm not going to watch it, so I just dump it. But I've got 12 or 15 HD movies on there right now.

 

[harshness]

Id assume if they were to be connected (to transfer), it would be ethernet. Its the cheapest and fastest way to get it done. Try transfering 1hr's worth (about 7gb of MPEG2HD) over a powerline, you will be there for a while.

HomePlug 1.0 is supposed to be capable of 14Mbps and HomePlug AV is rated at up to 100Mbps. It would seem that HomePlug is faster than most wireless solutions.

 

[harshness]

*cough* TIVO *cough*

The key word in Scott's statement was "provider".

 

[M Sparks]

The scary part about that was that it cost them significant money to deny you touch tone service. Almost as hairy as party lines.

My parent's STILL have pulse dialing. Hell, they still have a rotary phone in the kitchen. Been strapped to the wall since 1974

 

[harshness]

My parent's STILL have pulse dialing. Hell, they still have a rotary phone in the kitchen. Been strapped to the wall since 1974

The only real sin would be if they were still renting the phone from the telco.

 

[bigblock468]

Haven't read the whole post, will the usb drive work if you get a replacement 622? Mine has issues and I've been waiting to replace it until I can back up my HD recordings. :-O!

 

[tsc]

Get over it.... High-Def DVD players cost $1000 when they came out and plenty of people jumped all over them. Now they can be had for $500 and possibly lower. I still distinctly remember paying $200 for a cd-drive for my PC. I said a drive, a 2x at that, and not a burner, let alone DVD reader or writer.

Excellent point.. I picked up an HD-A2 from BestBuy 2 weeks ago for $192 (price match of Circuit City's $272 and an $80 gift card). Not long ago an HD-A1 was $1000.. slower and buggy.

For another blast from the past, I remember going to CompUSA and paying $400 for a Western Digital 1 GB drive a little while after it came out. Now we're talking of getting 500 GB external drives for more than half the cost of that.

As already said... early adopters are gonna pay. Myself, I have no problem paying it, but I'm not going to until I actually NEED it. I hover around 20 hours of HD space available on my 622. When I need it, I'll pony up the $40 and never think about that money again.. even if they drop or remove that one-time fee sometime later.

 

[gadams]

I think somebody asked it up above but I haven't seen a reply yet. Will this feature work with a USB hub, so you can have more than one external drive hooked in simultaneously? Or will we have to keep plugging and unplugging if we have more than one drive?

[And no, this isn't excessive. HD movies, kid's programming for my daughter, nature shows like Planet Earth and Sunrise Earth, it can all add up in a hurry, and we're constantly having to review what's recorded to free up space for new recordings.]

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Haven't read the whole post, will the usb drive work if you get a replacement 622? Mine has issues and I've been waiting to replace it until I can back up my HD recordings. :-O!

Yes

BTW I have been reading on other boards about this info. They are saying that they don't believe it.

I guess I can tip my hat now and report that this information came directly from the Corporate Communications Office at Dish Network. It dont came anymore direct or official then that. (Since thats where the press releases come from)

It really irks me when the information comes directly from the horses mouth yet these idiots don't believe it until they see it themselves. I am not here to make stuff up folks.

 

[Max Wright]

Yes

BTW I have been reading on other boards about this info. They are saying that they don't believe it.

I guess I can tip my hat now and report that this information came directly from the Corporate Communications Office at Dish Network. It dont came anymore direct or official then that. (Since thats where the press releases come from)

It really irks me when the information comes directly from the horses mouth yet these idiots don't believe it until they see it themselves. I am not here to make stuff up folks.

As you were Yesterday when MrBoylan reported this information too.

 

[SatinKzo]

Ya know, I got to thinking about it and while I don't like the fee that dish came up with and I won't be paying it if I ever sub to dish again. I do see that it probably took them a little bit of time to work on and get working enough for public use.

They could either raise everyone's rates or just charge those interested and that is what they are doing.

I don't remember if the 622 was ever advertised with the feature of external storage orignally and if so, then one could argue that people bought with the thought that the feature was included in the original price.

Also, I do agree that if/when the 211 gets external storage, that a DVR fee would be added.

 

[gadgtfreek]

It really irks me when the information comes directly from the horses mouth yet these idiots don't believe it until they see it themselves. I am not here to make stuff up folks.

Scott,

Its sad, but many people in life cannot handle the truth, unless they discover it first.

 

[Hall]

As you were Yesterday when MrBoylan reported this information too.

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