setting for camp

[texasbrit]

Hello Raoul: I don't remember the numbers for 99c but, for 103's there is one that I cant get any signal at all, but I can watch most of the hd channels including locals , I know that phase 3 is for sd , but it work good if you don't want to carry around those giants slimline dish
My next project is to try a sl5 non-swm on my phase 3 dish to get at least the 119 to watch my favorite sports channels, probably I will fail on this, and I will need a bigger antenna
Any suggestion will be appreciated, thanks

There are lots of posts about using Slimline LNBs on the Phase III dish, both here and at dbstalk. Try http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads...Campers-and-Tailgaters?highlight=swm+on+phase, or search this forum for SL3 on phase 3 dish.
The SL5 will work just the same as the SL3. Unless you are looking for a hispanic channel 119 won't help you.

As chip (raoul) posted, the 99s and 103s satellites only carry local spotbeams, so low or even zero signals on many transponders are OK. Your signal levels on 101, 99c, 103ca and 103cb are pretty typical of people trying to use the slimline LNB/Phase III combination. The 103 signals are just above the levels you need for reception, but just above is good enough. I haven't seen anyone report on 119, but I suspect the signals will be very poor.

 

[Jimbo]

The following sports channels are on the 119 satellite:

425 Fox Deportes
426 Bein Espanol HD
427 TyC
432 ESPN Deportes HD
456 GolTV
624 Fox Deportes (same as 425)

He didn't say he was looking for foreign Sports channels.

 

[ejb1980]

ESPN and Fox are not foreign. Gol TV is English.

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[Jimbo]

ESPN and Fox are not foreign. Gol TV is English.

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They are in the 400's right ?

Has the person inquiring mentioned anything about looking for any of those channels ?

 

[ejb1980]

He mentioned sports channels on the 119. I provided the list. He said "favorite sports channel"... Could be one of those. What is wrong with that?

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[ejb1980]

Just because something is Spanish does not make it foreign. ESPN, Fox, TWC Deportes, Univision group, mun2, and others are American Spanish (or bilingual for mun2) channels.

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[ELBIO]

Are you sure you have an SL3 SWM? All SWMs need a power inserter.

SWM SL3S4NR2-02 , it work with a 23/600 receiver , so, I guess that this receiver must have a "build in inserter" I was checking the output voltage and it switch from 13 to 20-21 volts every 5 seconds
I tried the same lnb with a 24/400 receiver and this combination doesn't work "smw do not detected"

 

[Jimbo]

SWM SL3S4NR2-02 , it work with a 23/600 receiver , so, I guess that this receiver must have a "build in inserter" I was checking the output voltage and it switch from 13 to 20-21 volts every 5 seconds
I tried the same lnb with a 24/400 receiver and this combination doesn't work "smw do not detected"

23 does not have a built in Power inserter, but it does have built in BBC filter.

Both need the Power Inserter IF you set them up in a SWM set up, they both work without the SWM as well as long as it's set up that way.

 

[ELBIO]

The following sports channels are on the 119 satellite:

425 Fox Deportes
426 Bein Espanol HD
427 TyC
432 ESPN Deportes HD
456 GolTV
624 Fox Deportes (same as 425)

Yes, that what I was talking about , thanks!!

 

[raoul5788]

ELBIO, you risk damaging the power supply in the H23 if you don't use the power inserter. The swm lnb needs at least 21 volts all the time to operate properly. The H23 doesn't put out enough voltage.

 

[ELBIO]

23 does not have a built in Power inserter, but it does have built in BBC filter.

Both need the Power Inserter IF you set them up in a SWM set up, they both work without the SWM as well as long as it's set up that way.

My set up---DISH TYPE " slimline-3s(swm)", SWITCH TYPE" (swm)
Works perfect for me without power inserter.....

 

[raoul5788]

My set up---DISH TYPE " slimline-3s(swm)", SWITCH TYPE" (swm)
Works perfect for me without power inserter.....

It won't for long.

 

[ELBIO]

ELBIO, you risk damaging the power supply in the H23 if you don't use the power inserter. The swm lnb needs at least 21 volts all the time to operate properly. The H23 doesn't put out enough voltage.

Thanks chip: I just bought a 5 lnb non-swm , since I rely on 12volts when "dry camping" all I need is a 100 watts inverter to feed the receiver , since I use only one receiver I can save same power without" power inserter"

 

[raoul5788]

That's a good way to go. The one issue you may run into is that some receivers are fussy about going from a swm setup to a non swm one. You may need to do a reset when going from swm to non swm. When going from non swm to swm the receiver self detects the swm signal.

 

[ELBIO]

That's a good way to go. The one issue you may run into is that some receivers are fussy about going from a swm setup to a non swm one. You may need to do a reset when going from swm to non swm. When going from non swm to swm the receiver self detects the swm signal.

One more time, thank you very much chip: just To mention, the idea is to use my 24/200 that is really small and handy, my original set up (at my house) is" slimline 5s" multiswitch - This receiver have this set up, actually

 

[Jimbo]

Thanks chip: I just bought a 5 lnb non-swm , since I rely on 12volts when "dry camping" all I need is a 100 watts inverter to feed the receiver , since I use only one receiver I can save same power without" power inserter"

Without the Power Inserter, I don't think you'll get all the channels.
Actually, if your setting up a SWM dish without the PI, the LNB should NOT see the signal at all.

Have you gone thru the Repeat Sat set up ?

If not, it's not set up as a SWM.
The SWM needs the 21-19 v PI for the LNB.

Could it be that you have a SWM, but haven't set it up that way, there fore it may be getting just enough voltage to get signals ?

One of the Installers can chime in and give a better explanation.

 

[raoul5788]

I have read of swm lnbs working without power inserters, but not for long. I suspect they have issues when only drawing 13 volts but probably work okay when getting 18.

 

[ELBIO]

Without the Power Inserter, I don't think you'll get all the channels.
Actually, if your setting up a SWM dish without the PI, the LNB should NOT see the signal at all.

Have you gone thru the Repeat Sat set up ?

If not, it's not set up as a SWM.
The SWM needs the 21-19 v PI for the LNB.

Could it be that you have a SWM, but haven't set it up that way, there fore it may be getting just enough voltage to get signals ?

One of the Installers can chime in and give a better explanation.

Lnb swm sl3s4nr2-02 set up "slimline 3(swm)" switch type "smw" I use to set my dish a least 10 times a years (during my camping trips) mostly sd 101, 110,119;
Hd technology is something new for me, probably I was lucky last time (this past long weekend) ,lot of tall trees ,100 feet at front, and with the help of an acutrack iii ,101 signal 80-85 99 and 103 about 50 but i had good reception in all channels, one more time , without pi
As chip mention before, could be dangerous , but I was watching tv during 5 days with no problems at all, probably this set up is something new for you guys , for instance, hard to believe

 

[Jimbo]

Lnb swm sl3s4nr2-02 set up "slimline 3(swm)" switch type "smw" I use to set my dish a least 10 times a years (during my camping trips) mostly sd 101, 110,119;
Hd technology is something new for me, probably I was lucky last time (this past long weekend) ,lot of tall trees ,100 feet at front, and with the help of an acutrack iii ,101 signal 80-85 99 and 103 about 50 but i had good reception in all channels, one more time , without pi
As chip mention before, could be dangerous , but I was watching tv during 5 days with no problems at all, probably this set up is something new for you guys , for instance, hard to believe

It just defeats the purpose of the SWM PI is all.

 

[raoul5788]

Lnb swm sl3s4nr2-02 set up "slimline 3(swm)" switch type "smw" I use to set my dish a least 10 times a years (during my camping trips) mostly sd 101, 110,119;
Hd technology is something new for me, probably I was lucky last time (this past long weekend) ,lot of tall trees ,100 feet at front, and with the help of an acutrack iii ,101 signal 80-85 99 and 103 about 50 but i had good reception in all channels, one more time , without pi
As chip mention before, could be dangerous , but I was watching tv during 5 days with no problems at all, probably this set up is something new for you guys , for instance, hard to believe

Not really. We have many posters using the same setup as you are, but rarely does someone not use the power inserter and get it to work.