IIRC, this WAS an issue for D* at one point ...
Believe it was a particular model ...
Reasons for intermittent, random signal loss
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Believe it was a particular model ...
The original Slimlines seem to be the worst and probably why the newer ones have cooling fins
What are typical Hopper 3 signal readings with the dish that's normally provided, or does dish size vary, based on location? I assume what shows on the TV screen is a relative signal reading, not necessarily dBuV at the output of the LNB, but what would be classified as a 'weak' to 'strong' signal range? I see a consistent 58, which is about what it's always been, but the transmission breakup/stall/etc. is getting so bad I'm thinking of taking a step sideways and calling the cable company (ugh!).
If you haven't already, check any outside (or indoor for that matter) connections. If water has gotten into the connector, the center pin can get corroded and make intermittent connections/failures.
Thanks for the tip, Sam. I've checked indoors, but will make sure my life insurance is paid-up and do the outdoor.
Here's a question: What is this thing? We didn't have it with our old receiver, but evidently it was installed when the Hopper 3 was installed. Is it connected properly? I haven't undone the F connectors yet to check for corrosion, thought I'd ask about this first. Our old installation had the LNB hooked directly to the receiver... a VIP-something.
That is a component used in a Hopper system. The way yours is used, it doesn’t really need to be there although Dish says it will prevent moca from traveling back to the Dish. Which BTW, region has no bearing on dish size. Other than international dishes and special circumstances, everybody’s using the same dish. The “eye” on the dish, or the LNBF may vary depending on region, determined by pointing to the southwest or the southeast. And that depends on which market you’re in and where you’re high definition locals are.
Typical signal strength for a western arc, which is what you have is 110 and 119 in the 70s and 129 around 50
Thanks, HipCat. Signal levels look well within range here. Any ideas how many degrees off the horizon the satellite actually is? Or, for that matter, any way to figure which way the dish is actually pointing, given the off-center feedhorn arrangement. Just want to make sure that foliage isn't in the way despite the signal strength looking good and holding steady.
These are the settings for your area, I would probably go about 10 to 15° each way from 169°, which is your azimuth and I would look above about 45°
| WA | D1000.2 | AZ - 169 | Elev - 49 | Skew - 92 |
Thanks. What causes the Check Status not to go past 60%? Performed a pull the cord reset with no results. Been waiting now for about 30 minutes. It worked couple of hours ago.
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HipKat, finally got the Check Status to work. How does these signal strength readings look to you for my Hopper 3? I didn't see xponder 23 for 129. My other Hopper 3 is busy recording. Will check it tomorrow. Thanks.
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They look good, actually. 119 is a bit low, but these Hybrid Slimline LNB's just do read lower than the older DPP and DPP Style Hybrids did for some reason. I'm sure the other installers on here would agree.
On a DPP Western Arc, I'd see readings closer to the high 70's for 119, closer to 80 for the 110 and close to 60 for the 129. It's refreshing the rare times I get to (re)point a DPP LNBF. The fact it took so long to run the Check Status is concerning though. That LNB may have some issues or a component, connector, etc in the cabling could be failing.
Thanks HipKat. I seem to have more rain fade issues now. I guess I need to have my system looked over.
I've come across this problem every now and then for quite some time.
Perhaps it is the fiber feed to Dish experiencing problems. OR-
My guess is this is a issue at Dish, as in either tweaking or perhaps the statistical multiplexing can NOT resolve the demand for the data (channels and their content) at high demand moments, which means Dish is pushing the limits of the encoders, in these now declining days of satellite TV causing cut backs on getting the latest encoders.
I have NEVER gotten anyone who would be in the know to confirm if Dish is still regularly changing-out the (MPEG 4, especially) old encoders for the latest, most capable encoders as they used to. I can only presume that Dish no longer does this change-out for the highest quality and reliability transmissions of the audio and picture data. That is a guess.
OR- some other goings on at Dish with tweaking to prepare for adding MORE channels to already, IMHO, overstretched transponders that can go beyond the limits of the statistical multiplexing at key high demand times.
My vote is Dish has put in cost saving measures that now erode the quality of Dish viewing experience at home. The problems stated in this thread has also happened others I know who have Dish. PQ on Dish has noticeably decreased over the last few years, and is NOT at what it used to be, and that, too, is likely a cost cutting matter.
While I would prefer Dish to really fix these problems, if they don't, I may be among those moving to streaming MVPD's like others have. It has always been the superior Dish experience that has kept me a subscriber, and that dear old mom can NOT work those stupid connected devices remotes for any TV watching; only Dish remotes for now.
IF anyone knows, please chime in with what has been going on for a very long time for these often reported "transmission" issues. Please, Dish, fix this please.
Perhaps it is the fiber feed to Dish experiencing problems. OR-
My guess is this is a issue at Dish, as in either tweaking or perhaps the statistical multiplexing can NOT resolve the demand for the data (channels and their content) at high demand moments, which means Dish is pushing the limits of the encoders, in these now declining days of satellite TV causing cut backs on getting the latest encoders.
I have NEVER gotten anyone who would be in the know to confirm if Dish is still regularly changing-out the (MPEG 4, especially) old encoders for the latest, most capable encoders as they used to. I can only presume that Dish no longer does this change-out for the highest quality and reliability transmissions of the audio and picture data. That is a guess.
OR- some other goings on at Dish with tweaking to prepare for adding MORE channels to already, IMHO, overstretched transponders that can go beyond the limits of the statistical multiplexing at key high demand times.
My vote is Dish has put in cost saving measures that now erode the quality of Dish viewing experience at home. The problems stated in this thread has also happened others I know who have Dish. PQ on Dish has noticeably decreased over the last few years, and is NOT at what it used to be, and that, too, is likely a cost cutting matter.
While I would prefer Dish to really fix these problems, if they don't, I may be among those moving to streaming MVPD's like others have. It has always been the superior Dish experience that has kept me a subscriber, and that dear old mom can NOT work those stupid connected devices remotes for any TV watching; only Dish remotes for now.
IF anyone knows, please chime in with what has been going on for a very long time for these often reported "transmission" issues. Please, Dish, fix this please.
Getting Satellite signal lost on 61.5. It's 10:30 pm 88 degrees outside sun is down, not a cloud in the sky and no treen anywhere near my dish.
Anyone else missing 61.5, specifically channel 246?
Anyone else missing 61.5, specifically channel 246?
About 4 or 5 years ago, one night I was watching TV on a clear night and suddenly, I had total signal loss. I grabbed my meter and 61.5 had no signal so I went up to the Dish and same thing. 72 was fine. I grabbed an LNB off my van, leaving the meter connected to the old one and still on, thinking mine has gone bad and by the time I got back, 61.5 was showing a little bit of signal. I was perplexed so I sat there watching the meter and in a few minutes, it was back to total strength.
Strangest thing I ever saw and it never happened again, that I knew of
I did have the science channel (and only the science channel) disappear last night in the early evening. Eastern arc.
Aliens bumped the satellite, and it took awhile for Dish to point it back in the right direction.
Well, well, well. I have fixed the problem... evidently/I think. I don't understand this, but here's how it went.
