why would you need 4 fixed DBS LNB's? Just put a DBS LNB next to the KU on the motorized and be done with it. Then you dont need all them switches
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why would you need 4 fixed DBS LNB's? Just put a DBS LNB next to the KU on the motorized and be done with it. Then you dont need all them switches
Lak7,
I can attest that an SW21 switch can be used in conjunction with a DiSEqC 4x1 switch, and in place ahead of the motor. I have used this setup for several years without problems. Although this is not a recommended configuration, I simply tried it and found it to function acceptably.
I had several fixed point dishes connected to this switch matrix, when I purchased my first motorized dish, I connected it to one of the remaining DiSEqC ports simply to test if it would work. It was purely a matter of convenience for me if it provided positive results, which it did. It basically saved me from running some additional cable.
I think the problem arises in the FTA receiver that you use. I used a Coolsat 5000. However, you must also be aware that the original factory firmware for this model does not support the SW21 switch. An upgraded firmware is required to install that function. I also used ONLY the DN brand SW21 switches and Chieta DiSEqC switches.
I would not spend too much time or expense in attempting this configuration as the proper configuration (with the switches aft the motor) and using an Ecoda 22KHz switch (opposed to an SW21) is the best route that should always function. Or possibly a multiswitch.
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Iceberg,
For me personally, I used such an elaborate switch matrix in order to operate two independant receivers (one I used to do recording in conjunction with a LiteOn HDD/DVD recorder) and the other as my channel surfing / feeds surfing receiver. Since I didn't have a motorized dish in the beginning, I set about incorporating several fixed point dishes with switching to accomodate the two independant receivers.
Now that I have a motorized dish, I pretty much don't even touch the fixed point dishes at all. I am actually contemplating taking them down and having two motorized dishes with one dual tuner receiver (AZBox Premium). Need to get the second tuner for that, yet.
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I'm aware of using fixed dishes in conjunction with motorized. Thats what I have...I was more looking at what he mentioned
since there isnt much on DBS why would you need multiple fixed LNBs at (oh lemme hazard a guess at where they are) 82, 91, 110, 119???
If they were KU Band I can understand but 4 DBS LNB's? For what...6 or 7 free channels like Ion, Nasa, Angel ONe...91 doesnt have anything but the "how to use your system" and 82 has NOTHING free on it.
The fixed LNB's that I have are on a toroidal dish and have been there for years. The previous owners had set it up and I have read about the difficulties of setting up a toroidal dish. Even though I have not used them, I simply did not want to move them.
This is why I was looking for a way to get both dishes into the house without running another RG6 cable.
Hence, 5 LNB's.
This is why I was looking for a way to get both dishes into the house without running another RG6 cable.
Hence, 5 LNB's.
I have now tried every possible scenario to try and get the Viewsat to recognize either the SW21 switch or the 22KHz switch. It wont see either one no matter where I put them on the line. Before the motor, after the motor, after the disecq, and so on. (with the proper settings on the Viewsat of course).
Do you have an option in the dish Installation Menu for Legacy Switch? If so, assign the universal to SW21 Dish 1 and the DBS to SW21 Dish and on the SW21 switch itself connect cables (Linear= Dish 1 & DBS=Dish 2) Also remember to turn 22Khz =on and LNB L.O 10600. I hope this helps.
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If I run it directly to the motor, the motor functions with the Viewsat as it should.
Also..... I do have an option in the Viewsat for an SW21 switch. But when I choose to have a Universal LNB, the option to turn on the 22KHz swicth disappears.
Universal LNBs use up the 22k option to switch them into Ku-high, therefore a 22k switch cannot be used together with a universal LNB.
The trick Babadem mentioned would require you to set the LNB type to standard and use L.O. 10600 instead of 10750.
The trick Babadem mentioned would require you to set the LNB type to standard and use L.O. 10600 instead of 10750.
Just to provide a measure of support, I agree with and confirm what Babadem and Tron are stating about a 22KHz switch, a Universal LNBF and the settings.
You can fool your receiver into believing that a universal linear LNBF is a standard linear LNBF if you remember to set the L.O. frequency to 10.600 instead of 10.750.
This will eliminate the function of the low Ku band function of the LNBF, so you must remember this point.
There are not too many low band Ku channels available to most of North America, but there are some. This trick will defeat the low band Ku portion of the LNBF (it will never be switched ON), so you won't be able to acquire these low band Ku signals if you do it this way. However, the universal LNBF will function the same as a standard linear LNBF (for the high band Ku signals) in this case.
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You can fool your receiver into believing that a universal linear LNBF is a standard linear LNBF if you remember to set the L.O. frequency to 10.600 instead of 10.750.
This will eliminate the function of the low Ku band function of the LNBF, so you must remember this point.
There are not too many low band Ku channels available to most of North America, but there are some. This trick will defeat the low band Ku portion of the LNBF (it will never be switched ON), so you won't be able to acquire these low band Ku signals if you do it this way. However, the universal LNBF will function the same as a standard linear LNBF (for the high band Ku signals) in this case.
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Recognize these channels??
After a long afternoon today I was able to scan these channels. If anyone can tell what satellite I am on, I would greatly appreciate it. I have checked Lyngsat and I do no recognize them.
WBNS TV
Carvano Path 1
Dan Black 1334.799
Metro 3-1
ULL vs KState (football)
PSSI 2011
ESPNWKI vs S. Fls (football)
Pit
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ps: I am hoping to be on my true south sat...79W
After a long afternoon today I was able to scan these channels. If anyone can tell what satellite I am on, I would greatly appreciate it. I have checked Lyngsat and I do no recognize them.
WBNS TV
Carvano Path 1
Dan Black 1334.799
Metro 3-1
ULL vs KState (football)
PSSI 2011
ESPNWKI vs S. Fls (football)
Pit
tx1
ps: I am hoping to be on my true south sat...79W
May I ask how you can tell?
I am curious because they are not listed on 72W, or anywhere else that I can find.
I am curious because they are not listed on 72W, or anywhere else that I can find.
So if I am on 74W and the receiver thinks that it is on 79W, is there a way for me to get the receiver to forget 79W and now know that it is actually on 74W?
I have a Viewsat Ultra and am trying to set a motor.
Thanks!
I have a Viewsat Ultra and am trying to set a motor.
Thanks!
One answer is to delete the channels you just scanned in, set the receiver's satellite to 74, and re-scan them in. However, if you already have a motor position set for 74, your motor will of course move off of the real 74.
I'd guess that if you're not already fully aligned, you could just delete (or ignore, for now) the channels and not worry about rescanning them in; then simply continue attempt to find 79. I'm not the most motor-smart person around here, though, so you might solicit a second opinion.
I'd guess that if you're not already fully aligned, you could just delete (or ignore, for now) the channels and not worry about rescanning them in; then simply continue attempt to find 79. I'm not the most motor-smart person around here, though, so you might solicit a second opinion.
They recently renamed Ohio News Netwok as WBNS (WBNS is actually the network affiliate in Columbus that helps with ONN)
sounds like I will have to move the dish over slightly....
from what I can read from dishpointer, the elevation angles for 79W and 74W are almost the same for my position. Hopefully I will have some luck. I will give it a try in the morning.
I thank you for your help!
from what I can read from dishpointer, the elevation angles for 79W and 74W are almost the same for my position. Hopefully I will have some luck. I will give it a try in the morning.
I thank you for your help!
You are most welcome, anytime.
Yeah, it's only 5 degrees - not a huge adjustment. On 79W, NYN is a pretty strong signal - much stronger than WBNS/ONN. So you may even be able to "rough it in" without an elevation adjustment. Look for NYN 1 through NYN 9 to scan in; that's how you'll know. Good luck!
Yeah, it's only 5 degrees - not a huge adjustment. On 79W, NYN is a pretty strong signal - much stronger than WBNS/ONN. So you may even be able to "rough it in" without an elevation adjustment. Look for NYN 1 through NYN 9 to scan in; that's how you'll know. Good luck!
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