Price increases in February 2014 (UPDATED!)
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Too bad for those of us that can't get OTA, Dish is my biggest monthly expense, even dropping my package still makes it higher than everything else!
I think that they are both responsible for accomplishing this. Between all the new fees and the price hikes on these said FEES by the pay tv providers, as well as the ever rising price that content providers are asking for , it is only a matter of a few years before the entire thing implodes.
Content providers are pricing themselves out of the everyday persons budget.
Pay TV providers are fee pricing themselves out the same peoples budgets.
Both will soon have to give. OTA with a little bit of streaming is a good option for most people, if they actually know how easy it is to actually cut the cord and are willing to give it a chance. My mom said she didn't want the satellite service anymore when I moved her up here. I didn't even have to ask her. One weekend watching all the OTA we have here that she didn't have before and access to Hulu+ and she made this decision herself before I could even move her equipment up here. I spent the past week scanning the guide and couldn't find anything I felt was worth watching that wasn't OTA, since football is over. I'm thinking I will go on Dish Pause or down to welcome pack towards the end of this billing cycle, until July or August when hopefully CFL broadcasts start before the college season.
Pay TV providers are fee pricing themselves out the same peoples budgets.
Both will soon have to give. OTA with a little bit of streaming is a good option for most people, if they actually know how easy it is to actually cut the cord and are willing to give it a chance. My mom said she didn't want the satellite service anymore when I moved her up here. I didn't even have to ask her. One weekend watching all the OTA we have here that she didn't have before and access to Hulu+ and she made this decision herself before I could even move her equipment up here. I spent the past week scanning the guide and couldn't find anything I felt was worth watching that wasn't OTA, since football is over. I'm thinking I will go on Dish Pause or down to welcome pack towards the end of this billing cycle, until July or August when hopefully CFL broadcasts start before the college season.
I really still think it's mostly the content owners causing the upward pressure on both the package and fee hikes. Pay tv providers know it would be suicide to raise their package prices at the rate that the content providers are demanding, so to offset the pressure and shrinking profit margins from the ever-inflating programming costs, they are forced to spread the cost increases into the fee arena as well.
I'm sure they are hiding some of the programming rate increases in the fee increases, but they are both still rising faster than most people will be able to or are willing to pay in the near future.
I couldn't agree more. I'm not going to try and find the thread on my phone, but there's a thread somewhere around here that indicated that Dish's average margin per customer was in the neighborhood of $5 per sub per month. That being the case, I don't see how they cannot pass on price increases without putting themselves close to the red. And, as a for profit business, I would never expect them to. That being said, I hate the price increases even though I understand what is driving them.
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yep, I'll keep my 722 and 211 with dvr software, until I can't use them anymore. I may change programming, but that is a personal preference based on my opinion of the amount of looping reruns of mindless drivel being broadcast these days.
I am sure that "may be" the reason that the tv providers "say" that they are hiking their own created ,because they can charge it , fees, but I think it is more likely the greed side kicking in. I've said it before and I'll say it again: DISH used to offer dvrs for free(501/721/921pvrs) and they added more subs back then and at a faster rate than ever before or since. In 2010 added so many fees, like tv 2 connection fee, dvr fee per dvr receiver, that subs squawked ,so they rolled them into one lump sum additional receiver fees that were very large, like the $17.00 additional receiver fee for a 2nd 622/722 dvr on your account. This of course was the same tv 2 connection fee, dvr fee and additional receiver fees all rolled up into one large additional receiver fee . This fooled no one that knew what they were up to on this site.
Then they listened to us here and I suggested this as well : FREE HD for life! Now that has been done away with for new subs and now hd ,which is the norm and not the exception, will cost them $10.00 after their 24 month commitment. How long till they do away with the grandfathered HD for Life for the rest of us? The second hopper fee is now going up by $5.00 a month , after they grandfathered it just 6 months ago , after we squawked on this site. Same for the Hopper dvr fee is going up by $2.00 after they grandfathered as well not 6 months ago. The new super joey will be around $10.00 ,a three dollar increase over the regular joey. How long till $10.00 becomes the new joey price for all of the different joey brands?
And let me say the sad thing is ,that DIRECTV is even higher with all their advanced receiver fees and whole house dvr fees, that I researched in another thread. When you add all these increases between content providers and tv providers and you have a recipe for cord cutting. Add to that the fact the younger generation will never subscribe to pay tv at all , and the older generation is literally dieing out every day , and this is forcing your business to go under eventually. Satellite and cable companies have always used sub additions to make their profits and now as the subs die out and newer generations never take their service in the first place, the sat/cable companies add more fees and hike the older ones on the remaining subs who choose to stay with them. Something has to change unless you want the existing sat/cable model to go under completely.
Well, Mike, I can only go by the available evidence, ie. the SEC filings available to the stockholders, which has consistently reported Dish's profit margin under the 10% mark. Looks like they are toeing the line on profitability as far as greed goes. What do you got?
http://ycharts.com/companies/DISH/profit_margin
http://ycharts.com/companies/DISH/profit_margin
I can agree with some of what you said but trying to compare the market today to what it was with the 501. The market now is saturated, not like it was 8-10 years ago.
to the point, too.
LOL! What a typo. "To the point" is what I meant to type. I guess all the looping mindless drivel is driving me to drink. More than just one pint, too.
yep, but it is getting a lot easier. most of our commonly watched channels offer their content streaming online. even the locals are doing this.
price of internet has gone up just as much as dish. guess which one will get cut first?
