PBS mux on 125W moving around...preparing for changes

[toucan-man]

Haha, are poor people really to blame is all I'm asking.

On the topic of quality, when I've viewed Charter and Dish Network locally, picture quality for these subscription services is pretty awful. Wonder why people tolerate this stuff?

The local television shop showed me Fox OTA vs. Dish Network for the same football game, OTA had the better picture. That was a few years ago, not sure about today.

Seems to me HD ought to mean one minimal standard before you can call it HD. Otherwise the provider must label it something less. "We offer more shoddy quality "substandard HD" channels than the competition for the same price."

Truth in advertising.

 

[chaskuchar]

ota is better than dish reception with my vip222 receiver. i just ordered the dish ota module to get ota through the dish instead of switching the tv to the local input. will report on the quality of ota through the dish receiver vs. ota direct when i get it installed. charlie

 

[Mr Tony]

They need to get with the program, it's almost 2013. I just don't understand why they don't bring those channels up to the times like the rest.

those channels are subchannels on the main PBS. So no reason to have them "HD" when they wouldnt be anyways

 

[Mr Tony]

The local television shop showed me Fox OTA vs. Dish Network for the same football game, OTA had the better picture. That was a few years ago, not sure about today.

still is. Local OTA will give you a much better picture than compressed/recomressed Dish or Directv locals.

But can we get back on the topic of PBS stations on 125?

 

[Dee_Ann]

Download messages then delete them from your mailbox.

All fixed now.. I renewed my membership so my mailbox is back to the 2,500 limit..

 

[wildbill47]

I use a SV8000hd and when PBS change TP's had to do a blind scan to remap channels. I was told by a tec that maintained the uplink at PBS Washington DC months ago that it would take 2 years to transition to Mpeg4. I guess he was wrong ? He told me that it was for reducing operating cost only. I have a Openbox S10 and it works really good on PBS feeds and has MPEG4 plus AC3 audio. Cost $ 80.

 

[wildbill47]

Our PBS OTA station in Sacramento,ca has 3 channels 720, 480 and 480 dpi. I watch the HD national feeds because of this and the constant pledge drives as they appear to be always broke ?

 

[Magic Static]

Anyone know the status of the two PBS C-Band feeds on 103.0W? They don't seem to be there any longer.

 

[Copykat]

Anyone know the status of the two PBS C-Band feeds on 103.0W? They don't seem to be there any longer.

Still there, same as always.

 

[Magic Static]

Well I checked again and there they are, very strong signal. Things that make you go huh???? Well I'm happy they're still there

 

[wildbill47]

I use an old primestar Ku dish for PBS 125 mux and really works good. Replaced the LNBF but finding the satellite was the problem with the high power satellites a stronger target then 125. You need a HD dvb receiver to receive channels. In my opinion the SD channels like Create and world have good quality video and audio compared with other sd services. the audio quality is the same on SD and HD channels being AC3.
A pbs technician told me that they want to drop the C band analog feed as parts are getting hard to find for uplink but it has something to do with US congress and being tax payer subsidized.

 

[Mr Tony]

A pbs technician told me that they want to drop the C band analog feed as parts are getting hard to find for uplink but it has something to do with US congress and being tax payer subsidized.

they are digital now.....so that is a moot point

 

[ifb]

You might be interested in some relevant slides.

I would have posted them a long time ago, but giving out accurate information would have meant missing all the ill-informed speculation.

Actually, I just haven't done anything with FTA in a while and I had time to tweak my dish today. I was catching up on new posts and saw all the PBS talk.

Quick summary:
Services uplinked by PBS move to DVB-S2 8PSK and MPEG-4 AVC.
Regional uplinks (the SCPC stuff on TP 23) might still do some DVB-S MPEG-2, depending on the site.
An additional HD services added (HD05).
Transponder 22 cleared.

 

[wildbill47]

I have rescanned and still see no MPEG4 and have 2 receivers capable of that. I think the time line I was given will happen 1 to 2 years. Reason the affiliates will need new receivers and up link needs new gear.

 

[Mr Tony]

12180 mux is DVB-S2 MPEG4 now

 

[KE4EST]

12180 mux is DVB-S2 MPEG4 now

Yep sure is.

 

[ifb]

I have rescanned and still see no MPEG4 and have 2 receivers capable of that. I think the time line I was given will happen 1 to 2 years. Reason the affiliates will need new receivers and up link needs new gear.

1 to 2 years? Try August 31. Everyone has their equipment and transponder 24 went live Monday morning.

 

[Mr Tony]

TP24 (12180) has been MPEG4 since June 19th or so

 

[ifb]

TP24 (12180) has been MPEG4 since June 19th or so

Yes, that's when testing started.

 

[Mr Tony]

remember that the beginning of next week supposedly the big change is gonna happen

July Dates:
1 - 31 Station Migration to MPEG4 Carrier on TX24
1 - 31 Transition TX23 (SCPC HD04) to MPEG 4
1 - 31 Establish TX23 (SCPC HD05)
1 - 31 Transition TX23 (SCPC SD05, SD06) to MPEG
31 Drop Temporary TX18 services
31 Drop Legacy TX22 HD01, HD02 services

so 12060 V 30000 will be leaving
12140 V 30000 (HD WEST AND EAST) will be leaving too
and the 12163, 12169, 12175 H 4444 will be changing to MPEG4 DVB-S2

so again SUPPOSEDLY by August 1st ALL of the MPEG2 feeds will be gone on 125W
12180 V 30000 will have the HD E&W feed, Create, V-Me, World and a SD/HD feed