NFL Reinstates Michael Vick

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Living in Philly I'd say the fanbase is much less divided than the sports talk radio shows demonstrate. Of the people I've spoken to today (I work in center city) I'd say about 70% think it's a good move for the team even though they aren't thrilled about it. Vick is a much better backup than Feeley and with Kolb likely done for the year it's a good addition. The Eagles also want to experiment with the wildcat formation and potentially use Vick in the fullback position.
 
Living in Philly I'd say the fanbase is much less divided than the sports talk radio shows demonstrate. Of the people I've spoken to today (I work in center city) I'd say about 70% think it's a good move for the team even though they aren't thrilled about it. Vick is a much better backup than Feeley and with Kolb likely done for the year it's a good addition. The Eagles also want to experiment with the wildcat formation and potentially use Vick in the fullback position.

Thank you Dan....finally, someone FROM Philly with legit Philly info.
 
This is like one of those TO situations, which the Eagles have some experience with. Yes there's a chance that Vick could help the Eagles, say if McNabb gets injured. But there's also a chance that this will divide the team and hurt them in the long run. Remember in Philly every time McNabb throws 2 or 3 incompletions, or worse an interception, the fans go nuts and he gets benched. Now having Vick on the sidelines the fans will be even crazier, if that's possible.

The fundamental problem is that this team is schitzophrenic. They don't know what they want. Example: Andy Reid runs a west coast offense that relies on throwing the ball 90% of the time. Yet they sign one of the worst passing QB's in the league to run it. WTF? Did Matt Millen get hired by the Eagles and I didn't hear about it?
 
This is like one of those TO situations, which the Eagles have some experience with. Yes there's a chance that Vick could help the Eagles, say if McNabb gets injured. But there's also a chance that this will divide the team and hurt them in the long run. Remember in Philly every time McNabb throws 2 or 3 incompletions, or worse an interception, the fans go nuts and he gets benched. Now having Vick on the sidelines the fans will be even crazier, if that's possible.

The fundamental problem is that this team is schitzophrenic. They don't know what they want. Example: Andy Reid runs a west coast offense that relies on throwing the ball 90% of the time. Yet they sign one of the worst passing QB's in the league to run it. WTF? Did Matt Millen get hired by the Eagles and I didn't hear about it?

McNabb is the worst passing QB in the league? :confused:
 
With all due respect I was saying what I was hearing on Philly sports radio...FROM Philly. And I heard a huge sample. One person's experience may be different...;)


Sandra

And with all due respect....never doubted you import on the matter. I wanted to hear FROM a person IN PHILLY...and stated completely the opposite. He said 70% of the people HE HAS spoken to think it's a good move. Again, I highly doubt Eagles fans gives a rats a$$ what PETA thinks.....they just want the Eagles to win.
 
Interesting article in CNNSI about Reid, the Eagles and the signing of Vick:

That's why the signing of Vick by the Eagles Thursday night makes more sense than Vick to almost anywhere else. Coach Andy Reid has averaged 10.7 wins a year in his 10 seasons atop the Eagles. He and his offensive coordinator, Marty Mornhinweg (entering his seventh year in Philly), both were schooled in the modified West Coast offense by Mike Holmgren in Green Bay in the nineties. The unknown quarterback coach, James Urban, is a bookish 35-year-old who coached at Penn before coming to the Eagles. And Vick is sure to be coached as well by one of Brett Favre's good friends, a longtime West Coast backup, Doug Pederson, who is in his first year as the Eagles' offensive quality-control coach. I expect Pederson will become very, very close to Vick now, reinforcing and teaching the things that will make his head swim with a new language in quarterback meetings. Reid and Mornhinweg will be Vick's main men, and both are solid rocks. A couple of weeks ago, I sat with Reid and told him I thought the reason he'd been able to last in a tough town like Philadelphia for a decade is that, essentially, he didn't give a crap about most of the things the media, the fans and lots of his players gave a crap about. He started chuckling, and he said he'd just been talking about that earlier in the week. But it's true -- and it's a good trait to have with Vick entering the Eagles' complex this weekend to begin his second career. If there are dog-lovers protesting Vick's signing because of his heinous dog-fighting history and convictions (and there are bound to be some), they'll roll off Reid. He simply won't care.

Philadelphia Eagles, Michael Vick a near-perfect match - Peter King - SI.com
 
I'm still listening to WIP (to people calling in FROM PHILLY), I've now heard hundreds of Eagle fans, and while while there is certainly some support for Vick, and some who say 'I don't care who is here as long as they win', there is still an overwhelming number of people who are not happy.

I suppose anyone's mileage may vary depending on how many people you talk to and who you talk to, but this seems to be a very polarizing issue right now. The 70% may not have been from a representative sample, because it's not indicative of what we're hearing from Philly at the moment.


Sandra
 
No Vick is. His completion % is worse than Joey Harrington. Remember how bad he looked trying to run the west coast offense in Atlanta?

But you are making it sound like Vick is the franchise QB there, he is not even the #3 QB! McNabb IS the man until he blowns it. The Eagles do not NEED Vick to win and I had thought they were they were gonna win the East ANYWAY.
 
I'm still listening to WIP (to people calling in FROM PHILLY), I've now heard hundreds of Eagle fans, and while while there is certainly some support for Vick, and some who say 'I don't care who is here as long as they win', there is still an overwhelming number of people who are not happy.

I suppose anyone's mileage may vary depending on how many people you talk to and who you talk to, but this seems to be a very polarizing issue right now. The 70% may not have been from a representative sample, because it's not indicative of what we're hearing from Philly at the moment.


Sandra

The do no like Vick...but the moment he helps the team in ANYWAY...all this BS about how "upset" Eagles fans are and how PETA this and PETA that will be completely forgotten. I think if anything, they might be upset because this looks like a slap in the face to McNabb....which I do not see why. I doubt it has anything to do with dogs.
 
As folks in Philly begin to process the reality -- which conveniently was slipped through the five hole during a preseason home game -- that Mike Vick is the newest member of the Eagles, most people are assuming that current starting quarterback Donovan McNabb has given the deal his personal seal of approval.

According to a league source with intimate knowledge of the dynamics within the organization, McNabb isn't pleased with the development.

But McNabb can't say anything about it for now, due in part to the fact that the Eagles gave him a money-for-nothing contract adjustment and otherwise spent a lot of cash and first-day picks to improve the offense, at McNabb's urging.

NBC Sports - Pro Football Talk
 
But you are making it sound like Vick is the franchise QB there, he is not even the #3 QB! McNabb IS the man until he blowns it. The Eagles do not NEED Vick to win and I had thought they were they were gonna win the East ANYWAY.
No Vick is not the franchise QB, but I don't think he could step in and run that offense well, and injuries are a part of the game so Vick may be forced into action.

I'm not conviced that the Eagles are that good anyway. Sure they can make the playoffs, but the Giants are the team to beat in the NFC East until further notice IMO. That leaves Philly playing musical chairs with Dallas and a bunch of other teams for a WC spot. Remember, in spite of the Eagles great run in the playoffs last year, their season came down to one game against Dallas in Week 17.
 
Next month will be 65 years since my 1st Eagles game and I have never been more SHOCKED! WHY? I don't see where he (Vick) fits. There are still some positions, where the Eagles need help, but not at QB. Where will they use him?

As for Vick, the pre prison Vick was an evil, arrogant, stupid ass. But anyone that has never done anything wrong, in their lives speak up. Is that silence I hear? His words are now right. We will see what his actions are; but I think he deserves a chance to change.
 
Fascinating stuff. There are reports McNabb was against the signing, and also reports he's the one who went to Jeffrey Lurie and suggested the team take a look at Vick. Never a dull moment in Philly!

According to a survey on philly.com which asks if people are for or against the Vick signing, 47.9% are for, and 52.1% are against at the moment. As I said, it's very polarizing. In case you talk to a person in Philly who talked to a few people who said it's 70/30 either way...the survey currently has 27,187 responses. ;)

Apparently nobody in Philly knows right now whether Vick's current 40 time is 4.3 or 4.8...

People are not happy they're giving Vick the number 7, which belonged to the beloved Ron Jaworski.

Not many can understand where Vick fits in on this team football-wise.

Lincoln Financial issued a statement this morning assuring everyone they have no say in the team's football decisions. Total separation. ;)

People are saying everyone deserves a second chance, and people are also saying they haven't seen any contrition from Vick. Some people are saying both.

Someone brought up Vick's old transgression where he was caught with some kind of substance at an airport. I forget that.


Sandra
 
I do not understand this signing.

Mike Vick did not perform very well in the west coast offense while he was with Atlanta. Going to a team that runs this offense puzzles me. Number 2. With what happened with McNabb last year being benched, how can this make McNabb anything but wondering about his role with the team? He seems very thin skinned to me and I just don't see how this can help the team if McNabb is the face of the franchise. Number 3 are the fans of Philly. If he succeeds quickly (when cleared to play) there will be no problem. However, he has been away from the NFL game for two years. I just can't see him able to step in and help much this year. The speed of the NFL is amazing and to get back to that level, if he can, will take a lot of work and some time. Lastly, and I could be wrong, but my observations to not show the Eagles being a very disciplined team with a stern taskmaster as coach or a player (especially now that Dawkins is gone) who fills that void. I think Mike Vick needs that kind of discipline and I just don't see him signing with Philly providing that. I am scratching my head about this signing.
 
As for Vick, the pre prison Vick was an evil, arrogant, stupid ass. But anyone that has never done anything wrong, in their lives speak up. Is that silence I hear? His words are now right. We will see what his actions are; but I think he deserves a chance to change.


Make him an evil, arrogant, VIOLENT, stupid ass KILLER!

I have done (and unfortunately continue to do) plenty wrong in my lifetime. However, nothing as despicable and as disgusting as what this piece of sh*t of society has done.

His words are now NOT HIS but of a "spin doctor" like Michael Sitrick of Sitrick & Co (whom he first hired but could not afford to pay!)

Following your train of thought, let's let Charlie Manson and his "family" out of prison now. After all, it's been 40 years...what the hell? They deserve a chance now.

:rant::rant::rant:
 
Make him an evil, arrogant, VIOLENT, stupid ass KILLER!

I have done (and unfortunately continue to do) plenty wrong in my lifetime. However, nothing as despicable and as disgusting as what this piece of sh*t of society has done.

People say he made a mistake. A mistake he made over and over and over again. Ritually and sadistically torturing, hanging, electrocuting and killing dogs for his and other's enjoyment...for YEARS AND YEARS. And paying for the whole thing all along the way.

If Goodell says he's welcome back in the league, so be it. That's his decision. I'm just glad it's not with my team, because I cannot root for this piece of filth.


Sandra
 
Make him an evil, arrogant, VIOLENT, stupid ass KILLER!

I have done (and unfortunately continue to do) plenty wrong in my lifetime. However, nothing as despicable and as disgusting as what this piece of sh*t of society has done.

His words are now NOT HIS but of a "spin doctor" like Michael Sitrick of Sitrick & Co (whom he first hired but could not afford to pay!)

Following your train of thought, let's let Charlie Manson and his "family" out of prison now. After all, it's been 40 years...what the hell? They deserve a chance now.

:rant::rant::rant:

Wait.....you are comparing Charles Manson and Michael Vick??!!:confused::eek:
 
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