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Yespage said:
www.nflpenalties.com

Roughing the Passer By Quarterback - All Quarterbacks

A look at Roughing the Quarterback, broken down by Quarterback. Data viewed by All Quarterbacks.
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Not disputing, adding a source.

Oddly enough all the QBs in the list round up to 1 penalty per 100 pass attempts.
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Now look the Other way and find out how many SHOULD be Called Roughing the passer ... or hitting when sliding (in head area) sliding call is ridiculous, they call it when ever someone is close for some people.

They need to look at various penalties and make them reviewable .

Face masking (5 yards if done) 15 yards if intentional and head has been affected)
Many times people have the face mask, but its a glance, not a grab ... lets call these penalties how they should be called, was there intent)

Even Targeting ... 15 yards and 1st down, IF there was Intent to injure, taken out of the game if intent to injure ... you can tell what the player is trying to do most of the time (thats what the rule is suppose to be)

Taking you helmet off .... the rule is to keep you from drawing attention to yourself .... the rule wasn't put into play that you don't play the next down if it gets knocked off your head.

Ect, ect, ect ....

Edit:
Same goes for College.

Also :
What is a Completed Pass ?
Do I have to be able to take the ball to the locker room without bobbling it ?

If you have control of it when you went down, it's catch. (70's rules pretty much)
 
HipKat said:
The point isn't the number of calls, it's the number of disputable calls. Every QB draws RTP penalties and every QB draws penalties that are questionable. Mahomes draws those calls when he's barely touched very often. Brady was the same way
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Was Brady? All QBs look for the calls. Brady played a very long career and the Patriots needed to redevelop their game plan to ensure Brady wasn't hit as often, hence the quick passes out to the sideline that are very common today.

All teams get screwed or benefit from the opponent from being screwed. It is inevitable and we have to recognize the benefit to get over the screw-age, hopefully it balances out. When it happens on the last drive of an otherwise remarkable Super Bowl matchup, we remember it more.
 
www.nytimes.com

The Chiefs’ penalty advantage and other potentially pivotal stats for AFC, NFC Championship bets

Michael Salfino looks at some intriguing metrics pertaining to the teams involved in the AFC and NFC championship games.
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Kansas City’s penalty advantage​

Is the propagated notion that the Chiefs get love from officials and Patrick Mahomes gets bailed out with roughing-the-passer penalties true? Once we believe something is true — and who outside of Kansas City doesn’t believe the Chiefs get the breaks from the zebras? — we have a bias of remembering all the incidents that confirm it, while forgetting all that contradict it.

In the postseason during their Super Bowl run (2022-to-present), Chiefs opponents committed 6.875 penalties per game, according to Pro-Football Reference. Those penalties have accounted for 56.4 yards per game. Opponents to teams other than the Chiefs average 4.6 penalties, accounting for an average of 36.8 yards. That’s a differential of 20.4 yards per game. NFL teams averaged 14.8 yards per point in 2024, so that’s about 1.4 points more — pretty significant. (The Chiefs have been flagged 3.75 times per game for 34.1 yards.)

Is Mahomes protected to an outlying degree by refs? Mike Pereira, a former NFL official and current Fox Sports rules analyst, recently spoke to NFL Network’s Rich Eisen about this idea:

“It doesn’t resonate with me at all. … The fact that you’re looking out for anyone, any team, any individual, is a myth. It is an absolute myth. You don’t have time to react and say, ‘This is Goff, I’m not going to call this because it’s Goff,’ or, ‘This is Mahomes, I’ve got to call this because it’s Mahomes.'”

Coincidence or not, the numbers clearly favor Mahomes. According to NFL Penalties, Mahomes has drawn five roughing-the-passer penalties in the past five postseason games, an average of one per game. This is not counting roughing calls on him as a runner, like the one that basically won the AFC championship for the Chiefs in 2022. The average for active QBs in the playoffs is 0.12 per game. His career average of 0.412 per postseason game is the highest among all active QBs. Incredibly, Joe Flacco, Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson and Matthew Stafford have combined for zero roughing-the-passer calls in 55 career postseason games.
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I guess they had to restrict it to the playoffs to keep that side of the narrative going, and apparently had nothing to do with coaching, style of play, etc.

I'd be interested in how many QB hits were registered per penalty, as we've seen frustrated defenders trying to make the most out of when they do finally get to some mobile QBs.
 
I am Very disappointed in Washington today ...
Last week they could do no wrong, beat Detroit ...

They shot their wad last week apparently.

They have looked terrible today in what I have seen ...

Detroit would have given Philly a MUCH better game.
 
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A pretty good collection of controversies and not-so-controverises involving the Chiefs. That roughing the passer on the Texan defender who bumped into a soon to be diving Mahomes was pretty bad. 30 years ago, the offensive line would have been peeling Mahomes off the turf.
 
Yespage said:
A pretty good collection of controversies and not-so-controverises involving the Chiefs. That roughing the passer on the Texan defender who bumped into a soon to be diving Mahomes was pretty bad. 30 years ago, the offensive line would have been peeling Mahomes off the turf.
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Plenty of calls get called/missed to the detriment of the Chiefs, too. The refs aren't missing FGs, getting FGs blocked, throwing INTs or getting sacked several times a game, missing blitz calls or calling bad 4th & 1 plays over and over. It generates lot of content, but I still maintain it's largely overblown. Just the natural cycle of good teams '[winning] long enough to become the villain'.

Even in that article, it's funny how many of them are by their own admission legitimate calls that they've decided to highlight, and just furthering the narrative. It's too bad there isn't more education and objective discussion on the topic, as some of these instances just need to be better explained (like hitting a player on the ground in the head in the Texans game when Mahomes slid, which would have been upheld if penalties were reviewable) but that doesn't drive clicks / views.
 
There were missed calls in the bills games, but in this game, I cannot fault the officiating at all. The biggest miss you was on the drive where the bills failed on fourth and a foot because they stupidly ran Josh Allen up the middle again after failing at it four times previously

Some images say he got the first down and some show he didn’t, but that’s not the play. It was the one before that where Dawson Knox caught the ball and landed with the ball right on the first down line, the rough spotted the ball about a foot or so behind the line and buffalo’s stupid coach who blows this all the time didn’t challenge the play.

That was the biggest blunder in the game.
 

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