NFL 2009-10 Season
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Troy Polamalu returned to practice today but was limited.
Brandon Marshall pulled a hamstring early in practice, severity of injury not known yet.
Brandon Marshall pulled a hamstring early in practice, severity of injury not known yet.
Anyone else find it very interesting that the Patriots and Bengals can have a huge impact on their first round playoff opponent by pulling an "Indy" this weekend. As a Raven fan, I have no love for the Steelers, but it sure sucks that they, along with Houston and Denver, can play their hardest to win and see it all go for naught. The NFL has to do something about this. If it were not for gambling, and now fantasy football, the league would not enjoy the popularity it does. Now late season games are starting to look like 2nd or 3rd week exhibition games. Of well, we're only the fans that spend the money to support them.
The NFL has to do nothing. All the teams have to do is beat the teams they were supposed to. Denver and the Steelers went on huge embarassing skids, blowing their chances of dominating their destiny, not just controlling it. The Texans lost at least 5 games in the last few seconds or by 1 score late in the 4th.
The only thing I'd like to see happen that would influence what is bugging you (teams lying down) is re-seeding when the playoffs start. Winning your division should get you into the playoffs, that's it. It shouldnt give you a home game. Wild card and division winners all get their playoff spots, then they are re-seeded by record to determine the teams with byes, and then 3 and 4 host 5 and 6. This would make late season games more relevant. It isn't perfect, and still wouldn't have prevented the Colts situation.
The only thing I'd like to see happen that would influence what is bugging you (teams lying down) is re-seeding when the playoffs start. Winning your division should get you into the playoffs, that's it. It shouldnt give you a home game. Wild card and division winners all get their playoff spots, then they are re-seeded by record to determine the teams with byes, and then 3 and 4 host 5 and 6. This would make late season games more relevant. It isn't perfect, and still wouldn't have prevented the Colts situation.
You simply reinforce my opinion. The schedule is 16 games. You should be able to expect full effort from ALL teams for the entire schedule. Sure Denver and Pittsburgh had extended losing streaks, but they continued to play to win and ,in my mind, expected every other team to do the same. Ever since I was a kid, which was a long time ago, the object of any competition was to win. I know that things have changed in the world, but I think you still play the games to win.
I do agree with your seeding idea once the teams have been determined, but still find it unfair that the Jets may be able to back in. Maybe the NFL wants to show how much of a buffoon Rex Ryan is by pronouncing his teams out of the playoffs 2 weeks ago.
I do agree with your seeding idea once the teams have been determined, but still find it unfair that the Jets may be able to back in. Maybe the NFL wants to show how much of a buffoon Rex Ryan is by pronouncing his teams out of the playoffs 2 weeks ago.
It's a business, and the objective is to be successful (winning the championship) not explicitly win every game (though the later can certainly lead to the former). Resting people is strategic to the business goal of a franchise.
And it worked so well for the Colts in '05 and '07 didn't it?? Might as well keep trying until it does...
bingo!!!!!!! :up. it never worked for them before. plus when you have an opportunity to make history you should take it!And it worked so well for the Colts in '05 and '07 didn't it?? Might as well keep trying until it does...
I wholeheartedly agree!!!...As an "Indy-long" season ticket holder, (having season tickets since they came to town), I litteraly could not belive what I was seeing Sunday night, and I'm not the only one!!!...
You should hear the sports talk radio here...it was even reported, falsely it seems, that Polian walked out on his own show the other night because he couldn't take the heat...but that turned out not to be true!!!...If the Jets manage to make the playoffs and they happen to make it as far as the 2nd round and come back here to play, if they win, the world will certainly end as far as the Colts are concerned!!!...That is worst-case scenairio!!!...
It's a business
Once again, I have to admit that I am an old man, but it certainly doesn't sit well with me that the fans are being taken for granted. I guess that we are to blame, but damn it it sure was nice in the good old days when the NFL owners had to try to win championships to sell tickets in order to stay in business. Now it is just,buy the franchise, get the TV money, get some city or state to build you a stadium,sit back and count the money. I wish I wouldn't have become so addicted to sports at a young age, because now I still look forward to watching the games, but not the results.
Once again, I have to admit that I am an old man, but it certainly doesn't sit well with me that the fans are being taken for granted. I guess that we are to blame, but damn it it sure was nice in the good old days when the NFL owners had to try to win championships to sell tickets in order to stay in business. Now it is just,buy the franchise, get the TV money, get some city or state to build you a stadium,sit back and count the money. I wish I wouldn't have become so addicted to sports at a young age, because now I still look forward to watching the games, but not the results.
Fukk the business! It's sports!! And the teams should have enough fire in them to WANT to win every damn game! It's not fair to the players or the fans.
You can roll over and play pussycat if you want, but these are damn professionals and they should be expected to do their damn jobs. It's that simple.
This isn't the NBA, it's the NFL!!
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I'm not defending them, I am 90% less interested in the playoffs now that both the Saints and the Colts have lost, but pretending to be the dads of GMs and reprimanding them or something is making you guys look a little silly and unreasonable. You know damn well why they rest people and it's not something new and it's not just the Colts that do it, cite all the convenient history you want. The Chargers have had their number of late much more than any rust or rest issues. A loss in OT and a loss by less than a TD does not a convincing argument make so find a new excuse.
I don't see anyone here pretending to be the "dad" of any gm. If you're referring to the supposedly lawsuit I heard about againts the colts for pulling their starters then yes I would say that's too much. And you can't say that making history means nothing because the gm himself said how they aimed to break the pats record with 23 straight regular season wins and they did. How they are also looking to extend peytons streak for a consecutive starts. So why not go for this when your so close? Its idiotic! And to say their fans are looking for excuses to throw at the colts struggling against the chargers isn't an accurate statement to make.all they are saying and I happen to agree with is that if it hasn't worked for you before why do it again? Yes too much rest isn't a good thing most of the time for any team believe it or not. Look up the info for yourself. So why go down that same road? Why not try to keep that momentum,that rhythm going into the playoffs? Why not try to do something no one else has done before when you're that close to it? I'm sorry but fans,players and coaches feel the same on what the colts did last week. Something about it didn't seem right but honestly I'm sick of talking about. Its over and done with so I'll move on but won't criticize those who don't.
Steelers' Woodley predicts the Pats and Bengals will "lay down"....
It kind of makes sense too. Once Palomalu gets back, I think the Steelers are a more dangerous team in the playoffs than the Bengals.
Pittsburgh Steelers' LaMarr Woodley: New England Patriots, Cincinnati Bengals will 'lay down' - ESPN
Yes I do know why teams really rest players, injury avoidance not rest. The Colts already have a built-in week of rest and you could see the looks on the player's faces on the sidelines they didn't want to come out. If Manning was comfortable with it shouldn't he have been sitting on the bench with his baseball hat on instead of standing right next to Caldwell with his helmet strapped on??
The history cited here may be "convenient" to you, but still true nonetheless. It doesn't matter how close the losses are after a team dominates most of the regular season and experiences a first round exit from the playoffs after treating the end of their schedule like exhibition games.
Manning throwing for 300 and 400 yards and having a poor running game like they did all season and losing by a combined 8 points in 2 playoff games is not a case of 'oh snap, shouldn't have rested' as much as people want to use that to fit their argument.
Once again, it doesn't matter what the margin of a loss is, it's still a loss and when it happens in the first playoff game it stings that much more. You don't have to believe me, I never played the game anywhere near that level. Just read and listen to the accounts from current and former NFL players who have said the Colts should have went for it. NFL player's careers are short and its gotta hurt when you are this close to a chance at perfection and are told to lay down.
I guess that means that you are the only one who can make stats and numbers fit your argument. How convenient.
