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Yeah, I saw it too. Some seem to think ShortsHD, but Im not sure why. Epix would be nice.

One poster said it might be ShortsHD and another agreed. Although it could be, there's no real reason to believe it yet.
 
Shorts HD, What is that ?
I've never heard of it .... how about some channels that people WANT, instead of obscure channels ?

Whenever I watch the Oscars and they have the best short film category and they show a clip, I say to myself, that looks like a cool movie. But I've never seen any of those films simply because I don't know where to find them. Well, now I will. I think this will be a great addition.
 
Whenever I watch the Oscars and they have the best short film category and they show a clip, I say to myself, that looks like a cool movie. But I've never seen any of those films simply because I don't know where to find them. Well, now I will. I think this will be a great addition.

OK, now that I found out that it's entirely "Short Films", it makes me wonder even more about the "Attention Span" of those of us in the USA.
 
ShortsHD - While I appreciate any HD being added, it was not something I watched when I had Dish and it has zero "curb appeal" to the average subscriber.
 
bacchus101 said:
ShortsHD - While I appreciate any HD being added, it was not something I watched when I had Dish and it has zero "curb appeal" to the average subscriber.

Have you polled the average subscriber? I'd like to see the data you gathered to support that claim.
 
Jimbo said:
OK, now that I found out that it's entirely "Short Films", it makes me wonder even more about the "Attention Span" of those of us in the USA.

"Short" films were pretty popular in the 50's and 60's. Many were shown as warmups for the main feature in theaters. A lot of shorts were actually better than the movie. Now we watch "trailers". Although different, they replaced shorts. A lot of shorts were cartoons, especially during WWII.
 
Have you polled the average subscriber? I'd like to see the data you gathered to support that claim.


People are really obsessed with polling these days...

I'm an avid television junkie and I hadn't heard of the channel until about 10 months ago when it was added to Dish. I don't need a poll to figure out that Shorts-HD is not on the majority of subscribers "short list" for must have channels.

I'm into relatively "artsy" and cinematic programming and Shorts-HD wouldn't make my list of the top 50 channels I don't have now that I'd want in HD...

When I can't watch shows like The Killing, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Top Gear, Doctor Who or even The Cooking channel in HD - I could really care less about watching half thought out, low budget, glorified movie trailers.

I think the "average" subscriber would agree with me.
 
i bet the average subscriber has no clue whats in hd and what isnt, and really could care less
 
That's not a very intellectually honest argument. People actually DO watch BBCA and Cooking and some of the other hold-out channels.

Saying that most people don't know what HD is might have been a valid claim 5 years ago. You can't really buy a non-HD TV these days without going out of your way, and most of the set-top boxes that DirecTV ships are HD. That means most people who have FoodHD and Cooking HD can't help but notice that the shows on Cooking look like utter crap. It doesn't take a genius or an A/V snob to see the difference. My 3-year-old son will regularly ask me why Mickey Mouse Clubhouse looks "smushy" when watching an episode that recorded off of the non-HD Disney feed due to a recording priority conflict. You see a promo for Doctor Who on Comedy Central HD, and then the actual show comes on BBCA and looks like poo. This isn't counting pixels. It's the difference between AM radio and an Audio CD in a lot of cases. I don't know why the SD channels are so low-quality, but they are, and they seem to get worse every year. To act like nobody can tell the difference between HD and SD is a pretty weak deflection from the conversation at hand. It's bad enough that I've got BBCA on my TV, but I'm still resorting to downloading some of their shows from the internet and streaming them to my TV from my home network, because the quality is better (even the SD downloads look better than DirecTV SD feed!). I waited years for Doctor Who to be recorded in HD...to have the "leader in HD" be the only missing link in the chain at this point is pretty sad. There's no point in defending them when they have a clear set of "missing" channels and instead of acquiring one or all of those, they show up with this kind of thing. Next you're going to tell me that we need the Voom channels more than BBCAHD
 
you overestimate the average user imho
im talking averages here with the millions of users out there the average is lower then you are estimating
 
but by definition, we're talking about a sub-set of that "average" because we're talking about the value of adding ShortsHD vs. adding HD versions of existing, popular channels.
BBCA had more viewers for the first episode of the new Dr. Who season than ShortsHD will have viewers for an entire year: WorldScreen.com - Articles - Doctor Who Season Opener Delivers for BBC America

And you might be under-estimating the average in general, anyway. more than 65% of US households have an HDTV as of almost a year ago: HDTV penetration reaches 65% | Washington Business Journal

Of their 20+ million subscribers, DirecTV had more than 50% HD subscribers as of 2 years ago:
DIRECTV: 50 Percent of Subs Get HD, DVR

I guess you may be right that the average viewer, paying for their TV every month, is less discerning than my 3-year-old boy.
 
but by definition, we're talking about a sub-set of that "average" because we're talking about the value of adding ShortsHD vs. adding HD versions of existing, popular channels.
BBCA had more viewers for the first episode of the new Dr. Who season than ShortsHD will have viewers for an entire year: WorldScreen.com - Articles - Doctor Who Season Opener Delivers for BBC America

And you might be under-estimating the average in general, anyway. more than 65% of US households have an HDTV as of almost a year ago: HDTV penetration reaches 65% | Washington Business Journal

Of their 20+ million subscribers, DirecTV had more than 50% HD subscribers as of 2 years ago:
DIRECTV: 50 Percent of Subs Get HD, DVR

I guess you may be right that the average viewer, paying for their TV every month, is less discerning than my 3-year-old boy.

half of them did not have hd 2 years ago. 50% had EITHER hd or dvr. big difference
 
"Short" films were pretty popular in the 50's and 60's. Many were shown as warmups for the main feature in theaters. A lot of shorts were actually better than the movie. Now we watch "trailers". Although different, they replaced shorts. A lot of shorts were cartoons, especially during WWII.

Sounds like you have had this channel ....

How long are these "Short" films ?
 
but by definition, we're talking about a sub-set of that "average" because we're talking about the value of adding ShortsHD vs. adding HD versions of existing, popular channels.
BBCA had more viewers for the first episode of the new Dr. Who season than ShortsHD will have viewers for an entire year: WorldScreen.com - Articles - Doctor Who Season Opener Delivers for BBC America

And you might be under-estimating the average in general, anyway. more than 65% of US households have an HDTV as of almost a year ago: HDTV penetration reaches 65% | Washington Business Journal

Of their 20+ million subscribers, DirecTV had more than 50% HD subscribers as of 2 years ago:
DIRECTV: 50 Percent of Subs Get HD, DVR

I guess you may be right that the average viewer, paying for their TV every month, is less discerning than my 3-year-old boy.

Of that 65% that have HD TV's, what is the percentage of those that actually sub to the HD packages.
I bet there is a pretty high number that have HD TV's but don't have service.
 
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