NCAA Football 2008-09 Season

[jwfgeol]

Are you trying to say that there was over 500 players from the SEC abd Big 10 in the NFL last year ???
I highly doubt that.

Jimbo

Where else would they come from, Canada?

Tennessee alone has 43 players on NFL rosters.

 

[SabresRule]

Let me directly quote from an article titled "THE ACC: Totally UnACCeptable"

It wasn’t long ago that the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) was a force to be considered when playing college football. Florida State ruled the east coast, and the other eight programs could do very little to knock the Seminoles from their perch. Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Maryland, Clemson, and NC State all had their “great” days, but the Seminoles were too dominant.

The Seminoles played in and won the BCS National Championship for the 1999 season. Since then, it has all been downhill for the ACC. Florida State played in the national title game the following season, and Oklahoma destroyed them. Close score, yes, but as I watched that game, it seemed like the Sooners defense had the Seminoles’ offensive playbook in their huddle.​

Clemson, well every year is supposed to be Clemson’s year. The Tigers have never had a 10-win season during the BCS era. This team has it all. Great stadium, awesome fans, and talent all around. However, the right things never fell into place for the Tigers.​

Like I said, Georgia Tech, Maryland, NC State, and North Carolina had some great runs including BCS bowl bids, 10+ win seasons, bowl victories over quality opponents. Some of the players, coordinators, and coaches were top notch or pretty near it. These teams were great out of the gate at times, but didn’t have the stamina to keep up with the rest.​

But it just seemed that a piece of the ACC college football puzzle was missing. This nine-team conference needed something extra to put them in the same class as the SEC and Big 12. Three teams were needed to create a 12-team super-conference and thus allow a conference championship game. The beginning of the 2005 season marked the full change in the ACC. Boston College, Virginia Tech, and the University of Miami filled the three necessary spots to create what was billed as the “next best super-conference”.​

So, what has happened since the 2005 season? An 8 – 4 Florida State team played in a BCS bowl game as ACC champions. What? Four losses. This had to be a sign of things to come. Very bad things. The ACC teams combined bowl record for the 2005 season was a decent 5 wins and 3 losses. The 2006 season brought a combined bowl record of 4 wins and 4 losses. Can you see where this is headed? Then, the ACC bowl teams combined for a dismal 2 wins and 6 losses for the 2007 season. The ACC doesn’t have a single BCS bowl victory since the 1999 season, much less since 2005.​

Since 2005, the “new” ACC versus their out of conference rivals (including Florida State vs. Florida, Georgia Tech vs. Georgia, Clemson vs. South Carolina, and Virginia Tech vs. West Virginia) has a combined record of 3 wins and 7 losses. Miami and FSU have more losses in the past 3 seasons than fans could ever fathom along with missing (or almost missing) the post-season. Maryland had 31 wins in three seasons and a BCS bowl vs. Florida.​

Outside of the 9-win 2006 season, the Terps have done very little. NC State, UNC, and Georgia Tech have done even less outside of the Yellow Jackets playing in - but losing - the 2006 ACC Championship Game.​

This new super-conference was fine with the media, many fans, and most of the entire college football world. No one ever saw the next thing coming. The ACC Championship Game was NOT the smash hit most expected it to be. Can you say “one-hit-wonder”? Well, no you really can’t. Because it never established a hit. This has been a point of discussion since the first ACC conference champs game. The two best teams from each division play in order to decide the ACC champion. That is a big misconception where the conference champs game and ACC relate. The two teams that have faced each other in each match-up have not looked like the “best”. Attendance was major issue, and new locations were and are being looked at in order to attract more fans.​

So, here we are, with one month until the start of the 2008 college football season. The ACC was supposed to be better than the SEC and Big 12 or at least up to par with them. It hasn’t shown that. To be honest, the ACC is barely ranked above the best mid-major conference, and that’s putting it nicely. There is one positive outlook to gain from all this: Hey Atlantic Coast Conference. The only way to go is up.​

 

[Jimbo]

Where else would they come from, Canada?

Tennessee alone has 43 players on NFL rosters.

Never mind, I was think something different.
My mistake.
btw, where did you find the number for Tennessee ?

Jimbo

 

[david1314]

ACC is still far superior to the Big Least as a whole.

And for the record no current Big least team has even played in a BCS title game much less chalked up a W.

 

[SabresRule]

no current Big least team has even played in a BCS title game much less chalked up a W.

But no current ACC team has even come close to a W in ANY BCS game.

I'll always defend the Big East, and the ACC will still be regarded as the crappiest football conference in the country.

Better as whole?

I'm sorry, but I can't believe it.

Florida State and Miami- past their prime.

Clemson- next year's champions.

Boston College, Virginia- lost their most important player

Georgia Tech, Maryland- perennially mediocre, waiting for hope.

 

[jwfgeol]

Never mind, I was think something different.
My mistake.
btw, where did you find the number for Tennessee ?

Jimbo

I just counted from here. Ohio State has 48 if I counted right.
ESPN - NFL Football Players By College - O - National Football League

 

[hancox]

ACC is still far superior to the Big Least as a whole.

And for the record no current Big least team has even played in a BCS title game much less chalked up a W.

Go ahead, keep discounting...

Ask Georgia or Okalhoma how bad a "Big Least" team is, eh?

Ask Auburn fans.

Ask Oregon St. fans.

Next year, you can ask Notre Dame when UConn goes to South Bend.

 

[Jimbo]

I just counted from here. Ohio State has 48 if I counted right.
ESPN - NFL Football Players By College - O - National Football League

I did not know they had this page set up like this.
Nice find :up

Jimbo

 

[SabresRule]

Next year, you can ask Notre Dame when UConn goes to South Bend.

I'm picking UConn to win that game. After all, we all know Notre Dame is just like Florida State or Miami- they act like they are still hot stuff.

P.S. Like my avatar?

 

[Jimbo]

Go ahead, keep discounting...

Ask Georgia or Okalhoma how bad a "Big Least" team is, eh?

Ask Auburn fans.

Ask Oregon St. fans.

Next year, you can ask Notre Dame when UConn goes to South Bend.

hancox,
Now you have gone tooooooo far.
ND has NO right to be in that conversation, they will lose that game by 10 pts probably.

Jimbo

 

[SabresRule]

hancox,
Now you have gone tooooooo far.
ND has NO right to be in that conversation, they will lose that game by 10 pts probably.

Actually,

he's just happy that his team will have a chance to humiliate the Stinking Irish.

I'm sure you felt the same way when the Buckeyes played Notre Dame in 1995, 1996, and the 2006 Fiesta Bowl.

 

[anders5189]

The ACC will be fine soon enough. They finally got the championship out of Jacksonville, although Tampa may not be a big improvement. Once the game moves to Charlotte in a couple of years it will be a hot ticket. The conference itself is interesting, if for no other reason than Florida St isn't dominating anymore. God, I hated those days! Everyone, minus Duke, has a shot. You can't say that about most other conferences. The Big Ten is just Ohio St and Michigan, everyone else is playing for scraps. The Big 12 usually boils down to Oklahoma or Texas and the Pac 10 is USC crushing everyone in their path. The SEC is good and relatively balanced, but that doesn't help the likes of Kentucky, South Carolina or Vanderbilt who have NO shot at winning their division, and Ole Miss and Miss St have no chance in the west either.

 

[hancox]

hancox,
Now you have gone tooooooo far.
ND has NO right to be in that conversation, they will lose that game by 10 pts probably.

Jimbo

Man, I hope so. With my luck, Claussen will get good this year.

Best part - we'll probably have a ND transfer at QB for that game.

 

[hancox]

The ACC will be fine soon enough. They finally got the championship out of Jacksonville, although Tampa may not be a big improvement. Once the game moves to Charlotte in a couple of years it will be a hot ticket. The conference itself is interesting, if for no other reason, than Florida St isn't dominating anymore. God, I hated those days! Everyone, minus Duke, has a shot. You can't say that about most other conferences. The Big Ten is just Ohio St and Michigan, everyone else is playing for scraps. The Big 12 usually boils down to Oklahoma or Texas and the Pac 10 is USC crushing everyone in their path. The SEC is good and relatively balanced, but that doesn't help the likes of Kentucky, South Carolina or Vanderbilt who have NO shot at winning their division, and Ole Miss and Miss St have no chance in the west either.

Agreed. It's one of the reasons I anticipate this year in the Big East so much.

1 - WVU (albeit not by much)
2-7 - Pick em
8 - Syracuse

Totally wide open.

 

[SabresRule]

Florida St isn't dominating anymore. God, I hated those days!

Didn't YOUR Tar Heels crack the ACC mystique of Florida State?

In 2001, they beat them 41-9.

THAT was the beginning of the end.

 

[david1314]

The main problem in the Big Least is that outside of WVA the talent stinks. (See NFL Numbers from earlier in the thread.)

WVA would be a 4 losss team in the SEC,

Rutgers,UConn and the rest of the conference would battle to stay out of the divisonal cellars in the SEC.

 

[SabresRule]

WVA would be a 4 losss team in the SEC,

Rutgers,UConn and the rest of the conference would battle to stay out of the divisonal cellars in the SEC.

OTOH,

either of those teams could go undefeated in the Absolutely Crappy Conference.

BTW, the SEC's bottomfeeders would go winless in the Big East.

IMO, Houston Nutt will regret ever taking the Ole Miss job.

 

[jwfgeol]

OTOH,

either of those teams could go undefeated in the Absolutely Crappy Conference.

BTW, the SEC's bottomfeeders would go winless in the Big East.

IMO, Houston Nutt will regret ever taking the Ole Miss job.

Who do you consider to be the SEC bottom feeders?

 

[SabresRule]

Who do you consider to be the SEC bottom feeders?

Just a few- Vanderbilt and Ole Miss.

Until last year, Mississippi State was really bad, but Sylvester Croom's got something going down there.

 

[david1314]

SEC bottom feeders are usually considered to be Vandy,Kentucky or either of the Mississippi teams. All would flourish in the Big East.

All have more talent than either Rutgers or Pittsburgh to just name a couple.

And NO Rutgers or Pitt would not be anything more than a middle of the pack team(at best) in the ACC more than likely would be closer to the bottom than middle tier.