NASCAR 2013 season
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Go back ot the link and read the comments. I like the playoff system idea posted there.
ugh one of these again?
Sorry but you can't predict what would have happened under the old system. Guys might have run harder if they were further behind in the old system.
This reminds me of my dad and his drunk buddies talking about it for about 5 years.
:it always has been that way....why change?
nope. DOnt like that at all. Maybe the 4th of July race be that instead
it cant be that long....That leaves 7 weeks left. They're done mid November and dont start til Mid February...thats 3 months. Unless you're talking testing and stuff
some yes not all
why? 1.5 mile yes but not 2 mile. Thats what makes those fun
They already shorted some races...300 miles might be too short
agreed
So other than bumping the 400 on 4th of July to 500 the rest are already 500 miles. Leave the 400 as is (again...tradition)
the Southern 500 doesnt really exist anymore as it use ot which was Labor Day weekend. Its now the Saturday before mothers day
good luck with that. I'm sure the France family and Bruton Smith will have a say in it (they own almost all the tracks)
most are within 3 1/2 hours tops
baseball uses the 1/2 way through rule
NCAA doesnt hurt Nascar as most races are on Sundays
again talk to the France family and Bruton Smith. They keep suing each other so their tracks get more dates. But I do agree som tracks should only have one race. Kansas and Texas should only have one race. Get rid of the 2 road races...get rid of that god awful Kentucky...there's 5 races gone
Dover going to 400 miles is smart due to the tracks size
Pocono going to 400 miles was due to the boringness of the race
California..same as Pocono
Well..I come from NJ. ANd one of the reasons why there is such political corruption in that state i sbecause of "this is the way it's always been done"...So when someone tells me "this is the way it's always been done", the hair on my neck stands up.
I think the tv ratings for a season ending Daytona 500 would be stratospheric
nope. DOnt like that at all. Maybe the 4th of July race be that instead
yes, Add up the weeks off plus the non points events and the season is about 45 weeks.
THe season for all intents and purposes starts this week with preparations for qualifying and the Shootout. Then the next few days they will spend working on the cars for the twin 150's..In may, the Southern 500 is on Mother's day weekend. The tour stays in Charlotte for the rest of the month. The final race of the season is November 17th...Starting this Sat nite it is 274 days until the season ends. That's nearly 40 weeks not counting the prep and testing that takes place early in the year.
It is the longest professional sports season which equals the gestation period for Humans.
All of the 2 mile track races are already at 400 miles. Quite frankly they could cut 50 miles to eliminate fuel mileage as a factor in who gets the hardware.
They already shorted some races...300 miles might be too short. I don't see why. I think shorter races make the drivers and crews uncomfortable. No time to relax. Drivers have no opportunity to just ride around.
I think Darlington's race should as a matter of tradition remain at 500 miles.
They may not have a choice. If tv ratings which pay ALL Of the bills continue their downward slide and sponsor dollars continue their trend of scarcity, the decision may very well be made FOR them.
Yeah, again NASCAR should not be trying to mimic baseball. One of the reasons pro baseball has trouble keeping younger fans is the games some times take 4 hours to complete 9 innings.
That's baseball.baseball uses the 1/2 way through rule
It does mess with the Saturday night races..Two after Labor Day. Anyway, the NFL kicks the crap out of NASCAR in the fall.
The road courses are here to stay. The drivers like them. And they play well on tv.
Notice how often I mention TV. That's because without it, NASCAR poops the bed. TV money is where it's at. Lose your TV audience and you lose your method of paying your bills.
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whew.....fixed the quotes so people can read who said what
wasn't sure how to save your quotes like you saved mine, so I C&P'd..
I admit it. With some things I am a "cybertard".
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I've said for a couple of years that NASCAR should end by October 1. The NFL just kills them in the ratings and for me once College Football and NFL starts, I don't watch anything else. I don't think moving Daytona to the season ending race is the thing to do, as it is the biggest event and has no competition on tv in its current traditional spot.
It's just a fact of the times now that tv coverage has killed attendance, that is why France and Smith want multiple races at tracks. People aren't going to drive more than a few hundred miles to go to a race when they can sit at home and see everything in HD and 5.1 without going deaf at the track or fighting for 4 hours to leave the track. I've been to Texas Motor Speedway a couple of times and just don't really care to go anymore. I may try to go to Kansas in the future, since I haven't been to a race there, but it will just be a one time thing
I think they need to make some changes, maybe adjust the size of the fuel cell or the race length at various tracks each week, as the teams have adjusted and calculated everything now and it just becomes a tire and fuel race of follow the leader until the last 40 or less laps.
It's just a fact of the times now that tv coverage has killed attendance, that is why France and Smith want multiple races at tracks. People aren't going to drive more than a few hundred miles to go to a race when they can sit at home and see everything in HD and 5.1 without going deaf at the track or fighting for 4 hours to leave the track. I've been to Texas Motor Speedway a couple of times and just don't really care to go anymore. I may try to go to Kansas in the future, since I haven't been to a race there, but it will just be a one time thing
I think they need to make some changes, maybe adjust the size of the fuel cell or the race length at various tracks each week, as the teams have adjusted and calculated everything now and it just becomes a tire and fuel race of follow the leader until the last 40 or less laps.
Really ...
Play well on TV ?
Sure, they play well on TV, those are the races that traditional Nascar fans DON'T tune in that week.
I know I usually skip the road races, unless theres nothing else going on.
I know Ice also skips the Road Races, he mentions that whenever they come around.
NASCAR had a rapid rise in popularity during the late 90's and the early part of the last decade. In it's infinite wisdom, NASCAR decided it needed to head for larger tv markets. Mistake number one. Then NASCAR decided the cars needed to be redone. They first came out with a common template. The cars save for the decals were identical. Mistake number two. As a result the cars were so equal and dependent upon aerodynamics the races became incredibly boring and to certain extent unwatchable.
Mistake number three. Then they came out with the "Car of tomorrow"...The thing was ugly and the races were still boring. Mistake number four.....Then the recession hit. Not NASCAR's fault but sponsorship dollars started to dry up.
NASCAR in deference to it's new network tv partners also decided to dump the traditional 1pm start time for Sunday races. They even tried running the Daytona 500 at 3.30 in the afternoon. The fans hated it.
NASCAR has come around in the past few years but the damage has been done. Even the most difficult ticket to get for the Bristol Night race, is now almost a walk up on day of event sale.
There are other issues, but those are minor. The bottom line is NASCAR got real big real fast and the management did not know how to handle it.
That's a matter of opinion. I like road races because those events show that these guys are quite capable of doing more than turn left.
It shuts up the snooty open wheel fans who think NASCAR drivers are all stupid red necks and guys who they say could not cut it in open wheel.
The thing is those drivers over there in Indy would LEAP at the chance to drive NASCAR..They's quadruple their income in endorsements.
