oh god you mean we have to hear Kenny Wallace say "Mark The Kid Martin" like 400 times for the next couple days? 
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Yep. and now we have to endure DW, Digger, and Boggity Boggity Boggity!!!!
DW I can deal with
Boggity Boggity Boggity is only said usually once a race
Digger I want to pull out the gun and shoot.
Ugh, worst rule in NASCAR came into play last night. The
DON'T RACE TO THE CHECKERED FLAG
rule. They really need to get rid of that rule, it sucks. That's the whole point of a race, and to freeze the field on the last lap. Ugh, what's the point of the whole race?
Oh, and if they're not going to show the race to the chase OTA, then why should I even bother watching the OTA Fox races leading up to it? That's like watching 16 football games but not having the playoffs or the super bowl shown OTA. And NASCAR wonders why attendance and viewers watching is down.
DON'T RACE TO THE CHECKERED FLAG
rule. They really need to get rid of that rule, it sucks. That's the whole point of a race, and to freeze the field on the last lap. Ugh, what's the point of the whole race?
Oh, and if they're not going to show the race to the chase OTA, then why should I even bother watching the OTA Fox races leading up to it? That's like watching 16 football games but not having the playoffs or the super bowl shown OTA. And NASCAR wonders why attendance and viewers watching is down.
last lap they should be able to
yep if all you have is OTA after the 600 you get THREE races OTA
Aug 21 Bristol
Sept 11 Richmond
Oct 16 Charlotte
It is stupid....why cant ABC show the chase races? What "quality programming" do they have in place?
Maybe they will if the ratings are up this year.
Seeing they are all related, it would not be a hard thing to do.
Congrats Mark :up
Mark continues to pick up where he left off last year :up
Also a very good start for Dale Jr. :up:up
It will be interesting to see if Jr can start doing better in qualifying thruout the rest of the year, that would be a HUGE help to him and the team.
If you all remember, Dale was a VERY good qualifier in his earlier years in the Cup series , I think alot left when his dad died.
Hopefully he can get it back, starting with this year.
We'll see, running up front would make a huge difference for him and the team.
ABC Affiliates Decry Migration of Sports to ESPN
ABC Affiliates Decry Migration of Sports to ESPN
Feb 7, 2010
-By John Consoli
In January, ESPN said it planned to take eight Nascar races from ABC.
ABC's affiliates are not only in a battle with the network over retransmission fees, but they are also boiling mad that corporate sibling ESPN is being handed live sports events they were initially supposed to carry.
The most recent move came in January when ESPN announced it planned to take eight Nascar races this fall off ABC for the coming season to run on ESPN. Even before that, though, ABC coughed up the Rose Bowl beginning in 2011 and golf's British Open in 2010 to ESPN, which is majority-owned by Walt Disney, the full owner of ABC.
A few station execs privately suspect that because ESPN is a big money maker for Disney, the parent company is letting it pull more live sports from ABC in order to justify hefty subscriber fees. ESPN charges cable operators $4.10 per household, according to SNL Kagan, and is said to be seeking a hike.
Len DeLuca, ESPN senior vp, programming and acquisitions, disputed that rationale, saying the Nascar move is purely about ratings. "What we did was take eight Nascar races on ABC on Sunday afternoons that were not getting maximum audiences nationwide [last season] because they were competing with the NFL," DeLuca said. He believes ESPN will be able to devote more promotional time to those races to their target audience this fall. The 11 Nascar races on ABC last year averaged a 3.5 household rating, lower than Fox's Nascar average (5.1) and ESPN's (3.6 for six races), and just slightly higher than TNT's (3.3).
DuLuca said he is sympathetic to ABC affiliates but noted they will still air more than 300 hours of "good sports programming" this year, including college football, the NBA, World Cup soccer, the Indy 500, the Little League World Series and three prime-time Nascar races. He added that ESPN has "several shows and concepts in development targeting men" to offer ABC affiliates for airing on weekend afternoons.
As upset as the affiliates are, they have little recourse, and they shouldn't expect much support from media buyers. "The ratings on ESPN may be lower, but the pricing will be lower also," said Christine Merrifield, senior vp, group client director at MediaVest. "For sports telecasts, a lot of benefit comes from promotion. And ESPN is a promotional machine. ESPN is an engine that targets men across all of its platforms. ABC reaches a lot more women."
ABC Affiliates Decry Migration of Sports to ESPN
Feb 7, 2010
-By John Consoli
ABC's affiliates are not only in a battle with the network over retransmission fees, but they are also boiling mad that corporate sibling ESPN is being handed live sports events they were initially supposed to carry.
The most recent move came in January when ESPN announced it planned to take eight Nascar races this fall off ABC for the coming season to run on ESPN. Even before that, though, ABC coughed up the Rose Bowl beginning in 2011 and golf's British Open in 2010 to ESPN, which is majority-owned by Walt Disney, the full owner of ABC.
A few station execs privately suspect that because ESPN is a big money maker for Disney, the parent company is letting it pull more live sports from ABC in order to justify hefty subscriber fees. ESPN charges cable operators $4.10 per household, according to SNL Kagan, and is said to be seeking a hike.
Len DeLuca, ESPN senior vp, programming and acquisitions, disputed that rationale, saying the Nascar move is purely about ratings. "What we did was take eight Nascar races on ABC on Sunday afternoons that were not getting maximum audiences nationwide [last season] because they were competing with the NFL," DeLuca said. He believes ESPN will be able to devote more promotional time to those races to their target audience this fall. The 11 Nascar races on ABC last year averaged a 3.5 household rating, lower than Fox's Nascar average (5.1) and ESPN's (3.6 for six races), and just slightly higher than TNT's (3.3).
DuLuca said he is sympathetic to ABC affiliates but noted they will still air more than 300 hours of "good sports programming" this year, including college football, the NBA, World Cup soccer, the Indy 500, the Little League World Series and three prime-time Nascar races. He added that ESPN has "several shows and concepts in development targeting men" to offer ABC affiliates for airing on weekend afternoons.
As upset as the affiliates are, they have little recourse, and they shouldn't expect much support from media buyers. "The ratings on ESPN may be lower, but the pricing will be lower also," said Christine Merrifield, senior vp, group client director at MediaVest. "For sports telecasts, a lot of benefit comes from promotion. And ESPN is a promotional machine. ESPN is an engine that targets men across all of its platforms. ABC reaches a lot more women."
Dale Jarrett, New Hampshire 2003.
Crashed at the exit of turn 4. Everyone racing back around to the start finish line, he was a sitting duck in the middle of the track.
Youtube the video
It's a good rule. That incident was "the straw that broke the camels back" so to speak. There were many incidents when there's wrecks on the track and the rest of field was racing hard back to the yellow flag.
Watch the video, the 41 & 15 made bonzai moves to avoid hitting him, Jarrett was unbuckling because of the fire and if he had to run away from the car across the track how safe would that have been with 42 other cars racing by him.
I'm not a fan of the "Lucky Dog" but it's better than the alternative.
They never used to race back to the flag until Robby Gordon started doing it and passing a bunch of people when everybody else would slow down per the Gentlemans agreement that they would never race back, thus allowing lap down cars to get back on the lead lap.
Exactly, I'm only talking about the last lap. The race to the checkered flag, not race until they freeze the field and find out who wins. It's the whole point of the race, ruined in the last lap with the current rule.
TMC, good read on the move from ABC to ESPN. Guess there's nothing that can be done. ESPN just wants the big bux each month. That's probably the main reason I don't subscribe to cable TV. Greedy providers constantly raising rates for channels I hardly ever watch. Oh well, I'll live with it.
So if the wreck is on the last lap and the car is sitting on the track it's OK to race to the finish with a wrecked car(s) on the track? (Daytona 2007)
I've heard today there's going to be an announcement of a revision to the GWC rule. Apparently there will be more than one attempt to at the GWC going forward.
NASCAR.COM - NASCAR contemplates multiple G-W-C finishes - Feb 10, 2010
Robin Pemberton VP of Competition said this morning on Sirius 128 that the drivers will be informed of the changes first then a public announcement will be made.
Reading the article, I agree with J. Gordon and Mark Martin, leave it at one attempt.
I really don't want to see 3 or 4 restarts.
I've heard today there's going to be an announcement of a revision to the GWC rule. Apparently there will be more than one attempt to at the GWC going forward.
NASCAR.COM - NASCAR contemplates multiple G-W-C finishes - Feb 10, 2010
Robin Pemberton VP of Competition said this morning on Sirius 128 that the drivers will be informed of the changes first then a public announcement will be made.
Reading the article, I agree with J. Gordon and Mark Martin, leave it at one attempt.
I really don't want to see 3 or 4 restarts.
They tried the whole multiple GWC before in the truck race and after one time where they did it what 4 or 5 times they dropped it back to one
one is ok. Anything after that is overkill and takes away from the race
one is ok. Anything after that is overkill and takes away from the race
When a wreck happens on the last lap (after the leader takes the white flag) all the wrecked cars would be behind the leader so the cars would be on the track after the start finish line and not really in the way
When a wreck happens on the last lap (after the leader takes the white flag) all the wrecked cars would be behind the leader so the cars would be on the track after the start finish line and not really in the way
Not if those other cars haven't taken the white flag yet they won't be out of the way.
true but that is a very rare occurrence. (Bristol & Martinsville are good examples)
I think the issue is that on the last lap they should be able to race back to the line unless Nascar deems it impossible (like a 20 car pileup right at the start finish line). If its on the backstretch and out of the way they should be able to race back to the line.
I think the issue is that on the last lap they should be able to race back to the line unless Nascar deems it impossible (like a 20 car pileup right at the start finish line). If its on the backstretch and out of the way they should be able to race back to the line.
