Max. cable lengths...HDMI vs Component

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llzel said:
Thanks Old Corps
does single mode mean TV1 and TV2 both watch same thing? Can you toggle between single and dual from TV2 location?
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You're welcome, my friend. Looks like your questions have been answered. Both TV's must view the same thing in Single Mode and you have to change the mode at the receiver. My 2nd TV is connected with both HDMI (to view HD in Single Mode) and coax ( to view SD in Dual Mode). Just have to change inputs on the TV. Just the wife and I at home (we're retired) so it isn't often that Dual Mode is required. Hope this helps.

Ed

BTW, DON'T buy an expensive cable. You're either gonna get the digital signal or you're not. JMHO. monoprice.com
 
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vegassatellite said:
Go here and check out the video "Putting Cables To The Test".
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That is a Monster promo piece. Of course they are going to say their's is better than anyone else's cable. They want you to buy their stuff. I formerly did installs for an A/V high end company. We loved it when we were sent out to install the equipment w/ Monster cable. Why, cause we would be able to keep the cables that came with the set-ups for other jobs that didn't have cables. Oh BTW the sales people love Monster too the mark up on it is 300%. What makes the difference is what is alluded too in the Monster ad. It is the size of the conductor that carries the signal from the 2 units that makes a difference. Mono-price sell 22AWG cable and notice in the video they never tell you what AWG is being used for any of the cables. You don't have to believe me I have a link here as well: HDMI Cable: Price Gouging?
 
Thank you, here's a link to the extra long HDMI cable I need. I guess I reconnect my dish receiver to TV with componant and then use the HDMI port for my 2nd TV. Got it figured out now.

RAM Tru-Reference Amplified Equalized HDMI 1.3a Cables, HDMI, HDMI to DVI and DVI extremely long length cables 12 meters, 15 meters, 20 meters, 25 meters, 30 meters, 35 meters 40 meters 50 meters and 60 meters

old corps said:
You're welcome, my friend. Looks like your questions have been answered. Both TV's must view the same thing in Single Mode and you have to change the mode at the receiver. My 2nd TV is connected with both HDMI (to view HD in Single Mode) and coax ( to view SD in Dual Mode). Just have to change inputs on the TV. Just the wife and I at home (we're retired) so it isn't often that Dual Mode is required. Hope this helps.

Ed

BTW, DON'T buy an expensive cable. You're either gonna get the digital signal or you're not. JMHO. monoprice.com
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whatchel1 said:
That is a Monster promo piece. Of course they are going to say their's is better than anyone else's cable. They want you to buy their stuff. I formerly did installs for an A/V high end company. We loved it when we were sent out to install the equipment w/ Monster cable. Why, cause we would be able to keep the cables that came with the set-ups for other jobs that didn't have cables. Oh BTW the sales people love Monster too the mark up on it is 300%. What makes the difference is what is alluded too in the Monster ad. It is the size of the conductor that carries the signal from the 2 units that makes a difference. Mono-price sell 22AWG cable and notice in the video they never tell you what AWG is being used for any of the cables. You don't have to believe me I have a link here as well: HDMI Cable: Price Gouging?
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Congratulations on posting a link to where a bunch of unqualified, uneducated (in regards to the technology) are disputing the validity of claims made by many cable manufacturers.

1080i, while much larger than 480p in the volume of data sent from component to TV, it's certainly not going to stop there. Even HD content is still shot at 24FPS. However, for gamers, a video game can be put out in higher resolutions than 1080P with a refresh rate of 120hz and 16 bit color. The average HDMI cable would not be able to handle that much throughput without collisions, reflections and other losses/corruption of data. That is where the GBPS rating comes into play. The more Gigabits of data a cable can pass per second, the better your end result (TV pic and audio) will be.

You can take 8-conductor bell wire and put RJ45 connectors on it, but that won't make it a cat5 or cat6 cable.

If you don't like Monster, then there are other certified cables out there. There's a few companies that certify HDMI cables, just look for the cables that have have been independently tested and you'll have less problems. Although there isn't any broadcast content that is pushing 1080x1920x120hz, cables that can push that level of data will have no problem passing a Dishnet or DirecTV receiver's signal.
 
KAB said:
Those prices are absurd!
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Amen brother! Geeze, monoprice.com has 1.3a certified and amplified cables for really long lengths for WAY less $$$ than that. I ain't no engineer or rocket scientist but my 24AWG monoprice cables are doing fine. Maybe when they take a dump I'll change my mind:rolleyes:. Whatever works and makes ya happy.

Ed
 
I couldn't find a 100' HDMI cable on monopoint, thanks for the slap in the face though. I went back and found one for $200 LESS!
 
llzel said:
I couldn't find a 100' HDMI cable on monopoint, thanks for the slap in the face though. I went back and found one for $200 LESS!
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FYI, It's monoprice, not monopoint.
 
whatchel1 said:
That is a Monster promo piece. Of course they are going to say their's is better than anyone else's cable. They want you to buy their stuff. I formerly did installs for an A/V high end company. We loved it when we were sent out to install the equipment w/ Monster cable. Why, cause we would be able to keep the cables that came with the set-ups for other jobs that didn't have cables. Oh BTW the sales people love Monster too the mark up on it is 300%. What makes the difference is what is alluded too in the Monster ad. It is the size of the conductor that carries the signal from the 2 units that makes a difference. Mono-price sell 22AWG cable and notice in the video they never tell you what AWG is being used for any of the cables. You don't have to believe me I have a link here as well: HDMI Cable: Price Gouging?
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Price gouging. People love that term when a product they desire is in their opinion ,overpriced. Yet very few people know the definition of price gouging. In this case ,there would be gouging if ALL Mfrs of HDMI cables colluded in the price fix. Since this is not true, there is no gouging. Now as consumers we all have the choice to buy whichever cable we choose. There are thousands at a wide range of prices. The best acbles are going to be more expensive. So consumers have to decide what their HDMI cable budget is going to be.
My thinking is if one is going to spend two thousand dollars on a tv before they get to the HT sytems and the HD sat system, they should not go cheap on the pipeline that gets the sound and picture to the TV..
 
dishcomm said:
Price gouging. People love that term when a product they desire is in their opinion ,overpriced. Yet very few people know the definition of price gouging. In this case ,there would be gouging if ALL Mfrs of HDMI cables colluded in the price fix. Since this is not true, there is no gouging. Now as consumers we all have the choice to buy whichever cable we choose. There are thousands at a wide range of prices. The best acbles are going to be more expensive. So consumers have to decide what their HDMI cable budget is going to be.
My thinking is if one is going to spend two thousand dollars on a tv before they get to the HT sytems and the HD sat system, they should not go cheap on the pipeline that gets the sound and picture to the TV..
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Exactly! $500 satellite receiver, $2,500 TV, $800 for Surround Sound, $600 in labor to put it in all the speakers in the wall and get the TV on the wall, and a $9 HDMI wire gluing it all together.
 
primetimeguy said:
Costing more does not make it better.
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Like I said before, putting RJ45 connectors on 8 conductor bell wire does not make a cat5 wire. If you think there's no difference in a $9 "fresh from China" HDMI and a $100 wire produced by a company that invests heavily in engineering quality cables then stick with whatever cable you feel like buying. Why not just buy some telephone wire with enough conductors and solder on your own HDMI connectors? Should be just as good.
 
dishcomm said:
That's fine. You go ahead andshop strictly on price alone. However, be warned, you get what you pay for.
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That's right, you should shop on GAUGE first, then price. The AWG is the single most important factor when wire shopping. When running any signal over copper, the larger the gauge, the more signal / data bandwidth can be supported.

Most of the rest of that stuff is marketing.
 
dishcomm said:
That's fine. You go ahead andshop strictly on price alone. However, be warned, you get what you pay for.
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I don't shop on price alone, but when it comes to cables a lot people do and they think a $100 cable is 10x better than a $10 cable. It may or may not be true. And the post below focuses on nothing but price, which I was trying to convey is NOT the thing to do.

vegassatellite said:
Exactly! $500 satellite receiver, $2,500 TV, $800 for Surround Sound, $600 in labor to put it in all the speakers in the wall and get the TV on the wall, and a $9 HDMI wire gluing it all together.
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